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post #751 of 11755
mhdiab

I'll let everyone know when mine gets an upgrade. I'm guessing it's either by region or by serial number. Since I'm a recent sub, I'm probably near the bottom of the list.
post #752 of 11755
Installer came out yesterday and told me - nope no dual-tuner working yet. I did get the DVR since it was free for three months so we will see what happens.

I can't believe they don't have the DVI on these - oh well....

Separately - is there any way to get rid of the advertising at the bottom of the menu? I think that I managed to get rid of this on my Comcast account in Atlanta, but nothing that I tried last night seemed to work. I am not sure if BHN turned this off or if I just wasn't looking in the right place.

Also have to add that I think the SD picture is one of the best in the five markets that I have lived for the past three years.
post #753 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by Dawgdaes
Your post inspired me to email someone at comcast this is the response I got.

"Thanks for the inquiry...It does appear that we will be moving toward the ADS(All Digital Simulcast) system in the near future for the residents in the Royal Oak System and adjoining areas. We are still awaiting budget approvals, but it does appear that this will be happening very very soon.
Thanks,"


I'm keeping my fingers crossed


does this mean that comcast will be all digital? no analog?
post #754 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by one028
does this mean that comcast will be all digital? no analog?

From my concast at Comcast:

"ADS should be integrated by end of June...not too long now!"
post #755 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by one028
does this mean that comcast will be all digital? no analog?

From my contact at Comcast:

"ADS should be integrated by end of June...not too long now!"
post #756 of 11755
Reboot check..

PSIP generator at WDIV blew a power supply. You may have noticed Weather Plus missing for a chunk of the day 5/4. If you're having any WDIV-DT issues, do a reboot or a rescan. It didn't affect my Samsung 151, so this may be moot, but I thought I'd post it, anyway.
post #757 of 11755
WXYZ-DT has been solid into Cleveland for a while (a couple of weeks)
Have they made any changes?
Can you guys get any c-town channels?

thanks
Dan
post #758 of 11755
Hi guys,

i was informed about this thread. I am from the Windsor area and am looking to subscribe with Dish or DTV. If anyone can help me in any way please do via PM, post or email. I cannot live with the programming available via BEV or S*choice, especially considering i get the networks over OTA already. Not an option.

Already posted a thread in HDTV hardware for those curious. Posted in the Toronto thread as well. As you can see i am desperate.

Please help!
post #759 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by intermod
WXYZ-DT has been solid into Cleveland for a while (a couple of weeks)
Have they made any changes?

Dan..

It's a rather frequent thing. There's a lot of water between Cleveland and Detroit. When it gets cold, the evaporation of that lake puts a lot of ice in the upper atmosphere. Combine those and signals reflect like ping-pong balls back and forth all day. If I cut my transmitter (WYCD, 99.5), WGAR comes in like a local. Listeners don't notice we're off the air until they hear Mantel. And, yeah, you can get Cleveland TV fairly easily when it's cold. Especially in the downriver communities.
post #760 of 11755
I'm an absolute HDTV ignoramus. Just bought a KF-60WE610 and have all the HDTV channels offered through Wide Open West.

My HD need now is TNT (for the playoffs). Can someone tell me if I can go out and buy a HD antenna to get TNT if I live in Sterling Heights? If so, where do I point it? Can I get an indoor antenna? (can someone suggest exact models?)

(if this is in the wrong forum, please advise through PM and I will delete this post)

Thanks in advance.
post #761 of 11755
Cabbie..

TNT is a cable network. Some cable systems have it in HD, some don't. See the channel lineup at the top of the topic. The only HD programming available over-the-air around here is from the broadcast networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, etc).

Doc
post #762 of 11755
TNT is a Cable station you will not be able to recieve it over the air with an antenna.
post #763 of 11755
My first post here, be gentle.

I've decided to take the plunge and try receiving HDTV OTA since Comcast can't seem to get a decent signal into my house (digital channels keep dropping out, etc). I've been reading a ton about it on these boards.

I've ordered an LG LST-4200A based on recommendations here. Now I'm trying to nail down the right antenna.

I'm in Canton, and antennaweb.org tells me that i'm 15-19 miles away from the transmitters for all the stations I really want to get, and they're all in the same direction (roughly NE). Luck would have it that the rear of my house faces east. I do have a large tree in my back yard, and face a single-story (but high roofed) school. My house is a two-story.

I'd like to avoid mounting an antenna outside, but I realize that may be inevitable. I have a spare bedroom on the second floor that faces east - would I potentially have any luck with a good-sized antenna if I placed it in that room, by the window? Something like the DB4? I'm considering attempting that with that antenna, with the thoughts that if it didn't work, I could then mount it outside. If I do have to go outside, I'd prefer not having to mount it where it could be seen from the front of the house.

Any recommendations, or others with similar experience in my area? Should I try a smaller indoor antenna before jumping to the DB4 (like a Silver Sensor or the Terk HDTVi that Circuit City sells)?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
post #764 of 11755
fcondron..

I always advise to start small, work your way up and keep receipts. You never know.. a 5-dollar set of rabbit ears may do it. Better chance is the Silver Sensor UHF antenna. If those fail, THEN you can move up the food chain.

You could probably borrow rabbit ears from a friend for testing, if you like. Just remember to move it around the room. It sometimes takes some trial and error to find the sweet spot.

Doc
post #765 of 11755
What about the increased signal strength that is supposed to happen by July for Top 100 markets? Won't lesser (interior) antennas get a better "lock" on the channels once full power is applied? I get pretty good now and think once power goes up Silver Sensor should be fine.
Tee Jay
post #766 of 11755
Thanks everyone, I think I will try a Silver Sensor first - can anyone tell me of any shops that sell those in the metro-detroit area? Or recommend an online shop that will ship one pretty quickly?
post #767 of 11755
I got mine at Sears.
post #768 of 11755
If I'm not mistaken all Detroit stations are at full power.
post #769 of 11755
I received my letter from Brighthouse in the mail yesterday that DrDonn talked about in a previous posting regarding the dual tuner dvr.

"As of May 10, updates will be made to the software in our system to allow you to use the dual tuner to it's full capabilities."

The remainder of the letter is a bunch of marketing fluff about their other services.

Looking forward to May 10. I'll report back on the progress asap.
post #770 of 11755
try Antennaweb it may help you.
post #771 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by Matt L
If I'm not mistaken all Detroit stations are at full power.

Ken H?
Doctor Don?
post #772 of 11755
fcondron,

FYI...I use a Silver Sensor in Ann Arbor with a Samsung T351 and pick up all the Detroit stations no problem. If I fiddle around with the antenna, I can weakly pick up Flint as well. So Canton shouldn't be an issue I wouldnt think.

I saw some Silver Sensors at Adray's in Dearborn a few months back. Might be worth a call. I got mine online.

- Brad
post #773 of 11755
Thread Starter 
I've even seen Silver Sensors at Best Buy in Westland and other locations...
post #774 of 11755
Quote:


Originally posted by TeeJay1952
What about the increased signal strength that is supposed to happen by July for Top 100 markets? Won't lesser (interior) antennas get a better "lock" on the channels once full power is applied? I get pretty good now and think once power goes up Silver Sensor should be fine.
Tee Jay

In my limited observation, transmitter power is not the most significant factor affecting one's ability to receive a reliable DTV signal, unless you're in the outer fringes of the coverage area. Multipath kills. If you have nearby buildings or trees in your sight path, even a good outdoor antenna setup may not be good enough.

I'm only five miles from the WDIV tower, and I can no longer get a consistent lock on their signal because of a big ol' tree that just sprouted its leaves smack in the middle of my sight path. This with a CM4221 mounted 10 feet above my roof. In my location, I get no reliable DTV with any indoor antenna, and no Detroit DT transmitter is farther than 10 miles from me....
post #775 of 11755
Hi guys -

I just moved from Mount Clemens to New Baltimore. I have a silver sensor antenna..after some tweaking, I get all of the locals (less UPN) with the antenna in the attic above my garage. I lock the signals in good, ranging from low 60's to low 90's. A few questions:

1.) I had the D* installer pull me a line for the OTA antenna. After I routed it in my attic, I left a service loop of about 15' - 20'..would it be beneficial to cut out this slack? I did notice, after taking out an 8' coax "patch cable" that was unnecessary, FOX went up by 5 points (do you call them "points?"). With the service loop, I'd say the total run (including through the multiswitch) is ~80' - 100'.

2.) The cable he pulled for me had a ground wire attached to it..is it necessary to ground this cable?

3.) In order to get UPN, can I cascade another silver sensor from the existing one to aim solely at the UPN tower?

I hope I'm not thread-jacking..

Thanks,
Matt
post #776 of 11755
oktoberrust11.

1) A little, but not nearly as much as bypassing the multiswitch. Diplexing can cost you 5 - 12db.

2) Not really, since nothing is out of doors and AS suceptible to lightning. Still, I'd leave it connected. It's a far better place to shunt static than your receiver.

3) You can get a jointenna, but it could very well add multipath or interference that wasn't there previously. And, as with anything, there's insertion loss. Your better bet would be to ditch the SS and pick up a nice UHF yagi or double bow-tie. From your location, UPN and WB's tower isn't much to the west of 4 and 7. A yagi aimed right at 7 ought to get everybody, local obsctuctions and multipath notwithstanding.

It's a local reception thread and you have local reception questions. Not a thread jack at all, IMHO. Just hope we can help.

Doc
post #777 of 11755
Thanks DrDon.

ok, so I bypass the multi..I want this OTA signal to go to (right now anyways) 2 TV's. How do i do this?

true, I'll ground to something.

yea, I was surprised I couldn't get UPN very well..they're all in the same general area. Is a yagi like this what you are referring to? A little big, but as long as I'd be able to keep it in the attic, it's not big deal. Can you link to a double bow-tie you're referring to?

Thanks,
Matt
post #778 of 11755
Matt..

They make shorter yagis that should perform as well or better than your SS. And here's one of their bowties. If you're splitting to more than one TV, use an ordinary splitter/combiner. Although, unless you're using a pre-amp, you may find that the loss from the splitter (typically 3 - 8 db) isn't all that much better than the loss from the diplexers.
post #779 of 11755
Thanks DrDon. I'm going to try a few of your suggestions first. If that doesn't do the trick, I'll try one of the antennas you recommended.

Maybe one last question..and this might be a "try it out and see if it works" answer, but I could probably raise the SS up about 5' - 6' from it's current height, I'd just have to figure out how to mount it..would that help out gaining signal strength?
post #780 of 11755
Matt..

Higher is usually better. But attics are their own beasts. My last attic rig had a sweet spot four feet BELOW the peak of the attic. The big rig also worked better on the west side of the attic (pointing north) when it didn't look as if that should have made any difference at all.

All..

Got the Brighthouse notification for the 5/10 dual-tuner upgrade, too. Enclosed with the poorly-proofread letter was a DVR instruction booklet ..for a single-tuner DVR.
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