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post #31 of 79
I couldn't agree more STEELERSRULE.You said it much better and to the point than I did.Thank you for that.We all talk this way when were with friends or buddies.We of coarse know when to shut off that language.Your points were excellent and I think Stern will be much funnier on Serius.I also know that spewing out curses all day is not funny.I'm quite sure Howard knows that too.So we'll just have to wait and see when this finally happens.J.H.
post #32 of 79
"Yeah Robin I'm a pioneer, hoo hoo. No one has done this yet Robin...I'm first"

I used to be a Stern fan but since the end of the 90s the guy has been boring. I don't want to make this a flame war but Howard saying that he's a "pioneer" by doing this must have missed the hiring of Opie and Anthony by XM.

-Jody
post #33 of 79
Are you putting Oppie and Anothony in Howard Sterns level because I don't think so.While I think they are very funny they are not on Howards level.Hes been doing way longer and has a bogger following.There was very little coverage of O & A signing and when Howards new came down it was on every single newcast and show on every show on the 24 hour networks. Again I think Oppie and Anothony are funny it wasn't the same thing.This is huge. J.H.
post #34 of 79
Also keep in mind that after Howard made his announcement, not only was there big news coverage, the stock jumped up in price as well.

O&E NEVER had that kind of impact.

Outside of the Forum here, and XM fans, who knew that O&E even made a deal.
post #35 of 79
I don't much like Howard. I'll occasionally watch the TV show when there is a hot semi-nekkid chick on. But that's short-term prurience (I admit it). What passes for discourse on his show barely makes it up the wino-slobbering-at- schoolgirls level.

That said, I think he'll attract a load of new subscribers to Sirius and give it the shot in the arm that Ford et al. haven't.

Good news. But I won't be listening.
post #36 of 79
Of course the FCC will attempt to regulate satellite radio. They have manifest destiny over all forms of broadcasts. They need to keep our children safe. Just because you pay for satellite radio doesnt mean a minor could buy a receiver and listen, then warp his mind and go on a school shooting spree.

And dont say that someone will come out to sue the FCC, because you CANT sue the government. They have 250 million taxpayers (willingly and unwillingly) funding their side of the case. They have more money to fight the case than any other group, and they dont even have to let the case go into their courts.

So the FCC will eventually regulate satellite radio and everything else. After all, its what Jesus wants.
post #37 of 79
That was an awesome reply Snickerbar.I loved it.well said.That is what god wants.That was so good. J.H.
post #38 of 79
Well George Bush does speak directly to god and has explained it to be his reason for stance on several issues such as being against gay marriage and stem cell research. He just "knows" he's right. Doesn't need any evidence or justification, because he gets his word from a higher power.

God knows whats best for us.
post #39 of 79
can't agree more buddy.can't agree more.J.H.
post #40 of 79
It`s posts like gimphboi`s that leave me walking away from my computer shaking my head....

so confused,so confused
:confused:
post #41 of 79
J.H.

When you say "are you putting Opie and Anthony on Howard's level" do you mean his level of popularity or talent?

Popularity....no, O&A screwed up their chance to get popular across the country when they were cancelled in 2002. Their syndicated show was starting to get some success in various markets. It still would have taken a long time to make a big dent but that was cut off.

Talent...hell yeah. In fact, right now I easily put O&A above Howard. This is just my opinion (although I've seen many other people voice it as well) but Howard is not even close to being as funny as he used to be. Howard used to be cutting edge, nowadays he rips off himself. I've seen where it's been said that Howard "jumped the shark" with 'Private Parts' the movie. He went too hollywood and never really pushed the line with new material for the show afterwards.

After O&A went off the air I tried to listen to Howard again, but i was bored out of my mind.

Again, my opinion but the virus will spread before Howard is on Sirius.

-Jody
post #42 of 79
I don't dissagree that O& A are funny they are.I heard them on a local station here in NY.I still laugh uncontollabe at Howard.Today alone I laughed out loud for 5 minutes straight.Hes just funny and the rejects around him are funny too.I'm buying serius for Howard I would have probably never got Serius if not for Howard so to me hes got more power over the technology already.I suspect there will be at the very least 1 million people who will do this.So again I'm not saying O&A are not funny but Howard is Howard. J.H.
post #43 of 79
The thing that makes Howard great is all the famous guest he has on the show. His show rivals the Tonight Show with all the stars.
post #44 of 79
I think howard stern is the first to jump ship and leave a large listener base. Opie and Anderson were fired. So is it 15 months before howard stern leaves for Sirius?

Although, I dont listen to stern. I have been wanting Sirius for a while, but was worried that it was going to go under. Now that is no longer a big concern.

So, if I have a Panasonic Siruis ready head unit... what do I need to get it working with Sirius. I have the DFX-983U if that makes any difference. I would prefer not to have any extra screens to interface with,
post #45 of 79
Quote:
Originally posted by snickersbar
Well George Bush does speak directly to god and has explained it to be his reason for stance on several issues such as being against gay marriage and stem cell research. ...
Contrary to what you may have been told, W does *not* oppose stem cell research. He opposes grinding up babies to get new stem cell lines. BIG difference!

On gay marriage, one doesn't need God to help one go "Ick!"
post #46 of 79
Quote:
Originally posted by del
The thing that makes Howard great is all the famous guest he has on the show. His show rivals the Tonight Show with all the stars.
That kinda depends on whether you count porn stars and prostitutes as "stars", doesn't it? ;)
post #47 of 79
<warning not meant as a flame but just as thought provoking discussion>

Gimpboy and all others who disapprove of so called indecency:

Who are you to tell me or anyone else whats indecent? I am an atheist and I think christianity is indecent. Christians have murdered how many millions spreading their cause to the "new world" forcing themslves on Native Americans, killing Muslims in the Crusades, stopping science saying the earth is the center of the universe and killing those that disagree, now with anti-evolution and anti-stem cell research. THAT my friend is INDECENT to me, as a scientist and an atheist.

That being said, I will fight to the death your right to believe whatever fantasies you want, whether they be of Jesus or Pink Elephants in the sky, BUT you do NOT have the right to tell me or anyone else how to live their lives. Forcing others to think like you is INDECENT.

If you dislike O&A being on Sat radio, you have one choice. UNSUBSCRIBE. Guess what, its simple economics supply and demand. If you are right, and everyone believes they are "indecent" then everyone will unsubscribe and the market will kill them out. Let the FREE MARKET determine what people want, not a 2000 year old book.

If you or anyone else truly believes that hearing a curse word or saying a curse word is going to warp young minds, then you really have no faith in people at all. You dont trust people to live their lives as good people regardless of using descriptive words.

A word is an inanimate object like a gun. Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Guns are simply tools like words. Just because you ban certain tools of "evil" like the F word or a handgun doesnt mean that society will be any safer or better. Look at England where you cant own a handgun. Theres still MASSIVE and rampant crime and muggings, but they occur with a knife. Take away all knives and criminals will use sharpened #2 pencils. Its not the tools but the people that are bad (in this case words are tools). And bad people will find NEW TOOLS. I used to work as a public school teacher. Kids arent allowed to curse in school. Guess what, they make up NEW words to mean the same thing. "Screw you", "up yours" are new phrases that are OK to say but mean the same as "indecent words".

Not meant as a flame, just some thoughts.
post #48 of 79
Quote:
Originally posted by tqlla
I think howard stern is the first to jump ship and leave a large listener base. Opie and Anderson were fired. So is it 15 months before howard stern leaves for Sirius?

Although, I dont listen to stern. I have been wanting Sirius for a while, but was worried that it was going to go under. Now that is no longer a big concern.

So, if I have a Panasonic Siruis ready head unit... what do I need to get it working with Sirius. I have the DFX-983U if that makes any difference. I would prefer not to have any extra screens to interface with,
You need a Kenwood 902 or 903 tuner and a antenna.
http://www.sirius.com/servlet/Conten...=1080597647978

Not sure but if you can find a 902. You might get it free with antenna.
post #49 of 79
SNICKERSBAR,

You probably will get flamed for what you said by someone on this forum.

But as for me, I agree with everything you said.

I could not and cannot put it any better myself.

The only thing you and I differ on is religious beliefs. But you know what, I would never sit there and try to POUR my BELIEFS down your throat and make you believe them. Just as long as you show the same respect.

And I think you did that in your post.
post #50 of 79
I know this is hard guys, but can we keep politics out of this. I know this issue is closely related to political issues, but lets try to keep this on topic guys. Thanks
post #51 of 79
snickersbar


AMEN brother(play on words intentional). Couldn't have put it better myself.

I'm amazed everyday how organized religion seems to have a foothold in everything. For being a country that claims to have no recognized religion, far to often God is used to pass legislation and to regulate policy.

I am looking forward to hearing Howard unleashed when he gets on Sirius. I have XM now, and will switch when the time comes.
post #52 of 79
Steve Mehs,

Do you know anything about this so-called "tivo" like tuner due out possibly out next year? Tivo meaning like a built in HD for recording, not neccesarily tivo. I would think this is possible considering there are tiny MP3 players that can record directly from AM/FM radio.

Also, it is going to be tough to keep religion and politics out of the discussion when you are talking about Howard. Mention his name and this is what you get, pro or con. This signing(issue) is not closely related to politics, it is politics, unfortunately. This will be tough to quell.

I will try to do my best not to, but this will be tough.

If you know anything about the above question, please post. I would think that sirius_rich might know something, but he hasn't been around lately.
post #53 of 79
snickersbar I'm also with you-

i can raise my own kids and don`t need rules and regulations shoved down my throat by the religious right...
post #54 of 79
I haven’t heard anything of about a comparable unit on the Sirius side, but XMs SkyFi2 will have built in solid state memory that will allow you to rewind up to 30 minutes of live radio (provided you stay on the same channel) and pause live radio for up to 30 minutes. The SkyFi2 will also feature a few other goodies available on other XM and Sirius units as well, such as built in FM modulator, sports/stock ticker and a few other notables. Somewhere in this forum there should be a tread about the SkyFi2.

Personally I have put off my plans to get the SkyFi2, in favor of getting a Sirius plug and play receiver.
post #55 of 79
To put things back on the non political track, I dont think Howard will be as funny when he is unrestricted.

As a fan who has listened to Howard EVERY DAY for the last 3 years, I can say that 10% of the show revolves around Howard getting upset and yelling at the General Manager (Tom Chuisano) for not being able to play clips, and Howard using fake - made up words like "Sunt" and saying words like Poopy. I think Poopy is funnier than the S-word. I think its much funnier to use your imagination when howard says "she put somethign in a very bad place - the worst of all places" than to actually spell out graphically where she put it.

I have a feeling that Sirius will lose money on this deal, they wont be able to recoup the 100 million per year he needs and turn a profit on the infrastructure, for which their earnings per share is currently at negative 50 cents per share.

Sure many people will switch over to Sat Radio, but I think he will lose a lot of his audience who dont wish to get satellite radio or who simply think he got kicked off the air - many remember when he got kicked off 9 stations earlier this year, and many people thought he got kicked off the air entirely. Most listeners arent hard core - check the website, listen to all 4 hours on mp3 like I do.

I also think the novelty of being able to curse will wear off after a couple months - people curse all the time, its not that funnier - much funnier to say things in a round-a-bout way without cursing.

Just my opinion, of course I'll still be a fan and I'll still be listening :)
post #56 of 79
I enjoy listening to howard on occasion. The funny parts are few and far between though. Someone earlier mentioned the guests being something that sets howard apart. I'd agree with that. But the reason these guests subject themselves to howard is because of the exposure. They get to plug thier show or product to 12 million people. The porn stars and strippers and b and c list celebs will always have a place on howard. The question is will the a list celebs still want to come talk to him. There will be far fewer people to plug their show too, and with no censorship, they will likely be harrassed even more.
post #57 of 79
Btw, snickersbar (and those agreeing with him),

Y'all are a mirror image of the "religious right" that you so decry. You may not believe in God, but you certainly believe in a rigorous orthodoxy. (Ever heard the term "the Atheist religion"? ;) ) You are actually doing everything you accuse the Jesus freaks of doing - demonizing the opposition, and demanding that because they don't believe as you do that they and what they believe must be evil.

Think about it.
post #58 of 79
Howard has A list celebs? Name a couple.
post #59 of 79
Quote:
Originally posted by DMF
Btw, snickersbar (and those agreeing with him),

Y'all are a mirror image of the "religious right" that you so decry. You may not believe in God, but you certainly believe in a rigorous orthodoxy. (Ever heard the term "the Atheist religion"? ;) ) You are actually doing everything you accuse the Jesus freaks of doing - demonizing the opposition, and demanding that because they don't believe as you do that they and what they believe must be evil.

Think about it.
I think you missed the point bro,

I am for free choice of everything, as long is it doesnt impose on others. Smoke a joint - its your body, not mine so who am I to tell you its wrong?

Believe in jesus, allah, Barney the purple elephant god, thats fine. Just dont tell me or anyone else that I need to follow your beliefs. A certain group may believe something is indecent, but they shouldnt be allowed to impose their will on others. "The tyanny of the minority" as it has been historically referred to as (by Alexander Hamilton and James Madison I believe but I might be wrong).

Im all for christian or any other religous beliefs if you keep them to yourselves. If your against science or abortion thats terrific. If you want to write books on why science is wrong, why the earth is flat and why abortion is murder, I support your right to do so and will engage you in a friendly debate about such topics if you please. HOWEVER do not pass laws telling others they cant research science (stem cell research) or what they can do to their body (Abortion). Thats where I have the problem is imposing your will on others. Howard Stern is disgusting so NO ONE should listen to him. Drugs are bad so NO ONE should do them. Premarital sex is bad so anyone who does should be ridiculed and forced to wear a letter A on their clothes and shunned.

I support NAMBLA. If they want to get together to discuss being with boys, thats fine. Theres NO victim. I only have a problem with it if they actually do something to boys. One might argue that the mere presence of an organization like NAMBLA would promote child molestation, or even that Heavy Metal/Rap Music/Violent Video Games/TV/Movies leads to crime. I would propose that the people who would be lead to commit crimes were already pre-disposed to do so and were not influenced by inanimate objects such as TV, music, Howard Stern, or whatever.

I am only demonizing those who would attempt to take away my rights or impose their will on me. Those people are bad in my view. If you want to believe whatever you want in private, thats fine. I am not gay nor do I enjoy watching 2 men kissing or holding hands, but I support their right to do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesnt impose on me. Christians believe that gay marriage is wrong and therefore gays shouldnt be allowed to get married. Well thats imposing your will on someone else. I am not saying that you are incorrect to believe that "gay marriage is wrong" I am simply stating that you are wrong to force others to believe as you do.

<note "you" is used in a non personal way to reflect how some extremists operate, I by no means insuinuate that all religous people are bad, most are not, but a few insist on imposing their will on others, and those are who "you" is the antecedant of>
post #60 of 79
Ah, a radical libertarian. I have fairly strong libertarian tendencies myself. The problem, though, is knowing when to apply them. The Left is libertarian in lip service only. A vote for a Democrat nowadays is a vote for Socialism, which is much farther from the Radical Right than you are. A true Libertarian in the 80s would have been either an anarchic terrorist, or a Reaganite.

So where does libertarianism end and anarchy begin? Good question. I recommend Thomas Hobbes' 'The Leviathan', a seminal work in political philosophy that led to - among other things - this country.

Since it pre-dates our heinous "intellectual property" laws, you can read it online: http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl3...-contents.html

Chapter 13 is key, especially, which lays out the need for a common government imposing order:

"[Whatever happens in] war, where every man is enemy to every man, [also happens when] men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them... In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
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