|Originally posted by DMF
Btw, snickersbar (and those agreeing with him),
Y'all are a mirror image of the "religious right" that you so decry. You may not believe in God, but you certainly believe in a rigorous orthodoxy. (Ever heard the term "the Atheist religion"? ;) ) You are actually doing everything you accuse the Jesus freaks of doing - demonizing the opposition, and demanding that because they don't believe as you do that they and what they believe must be evil.
Think about it.
I think you missed the point bro,
I am for free choice of everything, as long is it doesnt impose on others. Smoke a joint - its your body, not mine so who am I to tell you its wrong?
Believe in jesus, allah, Barney the purple elephant god, thats fine. Just dont tell me or anyone else that I need to follow your beliefs. A certain group may believe something is indecent, but they shouldnt be allowed to impose their will on others. "The tyanny of the minority" as it has been historically referred to as (by Alexander Hamilton and James Madison I believe but I might be wrong).
Im all for christian or any other religous beliefs if you keep them to yourselves. If your against science or abortion thats terrific. If you want to write books on why science is wrong, why the earth is flat and why abortion is murder, I support your right to do so and will engage you in a friendly debate about such topics if you please. HOWEVER do not pass laws telling others they cant research science (stem cell research) or what they can do to their body (Abortion). Thats where I have the problem is imposing your will on others. Howard Stern is disgusting so NO ONE should listen to him. Drugs are bad so NO ONE should do them. Premarital sex is bad so anyone who does should be ridiculed and forced to wear a letter A on their clothes and shunned.
I support NAMBLA. If they want to get together to discuss being with boys, thats fine. Theres NO victim. I only have a problem with it if they actually do something to boys. One might argue that the mere presence of an organization like NAMBLA would promote child molestation, or even that Heavy Metal/Rap Music/Violent Video Games/TV/Movies leads to crime. I would propose that the people who would be lead to commit crimes were already pre-disposed to do so and were not influenced by inanimate objects such as TV, music, Howard Stern, or whatever.
I am only demonizing those who would attempt to take away my rights or impose their will on me. Those people are bad in my view. If you want to believe whatever you want in private, thats fine. I am not gay nor do I enjoy watching 2 men kissing or holding hands, but I support their right to do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesnt impose on me. Christians believe that gay marriage is wrong and therefore gays shouldnt be allowed to get married. Well thats imposing your will on someone else. I am not saying that you are incorrect to believe that "gay marriage is wrong" I am simply stating that you are wrong to force others to believe as you do.
<note "you" is used in a non personal way to reflect how some extremists operate, I by no means insuinuate that all religous people are bad, most are not, but a few insist on imposing their will on others, and those are who "you" is the antecedant of>