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post #2611 of 2968
I don't normally have 2 channel analog set up but I can plug them in pretty quickly. I did that when I initially tried this about a month ago and didn't get much.

I need to clarify. It isn't that no sound at all came out of the denon. It was very faint, and I had to crank the volume quite a bit. Then my Rocket 850s would pop, which made me about puke, so I turned it back down. So it isn't completely silent, I just don't have it set up right.

So I am wondering if I need to set the receiver to "Straight" for pcm and then adjust the denon's settings within the audio menus. Does the hdmi audio menu have any affect on the 2 channel analog? I know that hdmi has to be set to 2 channel to get multi channel output functionality.
post #2612 of 2968
A post from another thread mentioned that I should set the avr to output bass to both fronts and sub. Any thoughts on that? I never tried that.

That wouldn't answer, however, why the oppo worked though. What about the speaker config within the denon?
post #2613 of 2968
Don't send bass to the mains and the sub.

Speaker config in the Denon only matters if you use the multichannel outputs into multichannel inputs on the receiver.

I do this for DVDs (DD and DTS), which means that the Denon does the decoding and bass management before sending an individual signal for each channel to the receiver.
post #2614 of 2968
I use multi channel for casual music listening and optical for movies/tv.
post #2615 of 2968
Does the 2910 have trouble with "mixed" discs? Meaning, discs that have audio tracks and data on them. More specifically, a disc that holds a program for a computer but when put in a cd player, has audio test tracks. I think that may be my problem with the r-des disc from onix.
post #2616 of 2968
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Originally Posted by rvanya View Post

Does the 2910 have trouble with "mixed" discs? Meaning, discs that have audio tracks and data on them. More specifically, a disc that holds a program for a computer but when put in a cd player, has audio test tracks. I think that may be my problem with the r-des disc from onix.

The formats for data and music CDs are different. Your CD burning software probably offers you those exact choices when you first launch it. I'm pretty sure that if you add music tracks to a disc that was previously created as a data disc, the music will go on as data files - still playable on a computer, but not a CD/DVD player. I am less sure what happens if one tries to add data files to a CD previously burnt as a music CD. But there's a good chance you've already hit upon your problem.
post #2617 of 2968
I decided to try HDMI with my 2910 for the first time. Unfortunately, the bloody thing doesn't seem to work. I ran the player (firmware 6720-D) through my SR9600 receiver and then HDMI out to my TV. The player acknowledged the SR9600 (as the HDMI part was not flashing), but the receiver did not. It kept defaulting to Analogue even after forcing it to go HDMI (it just flashed). Thinking it might be my receiver, I hooked the player up to my Sony KDL-V32XBR1 TV directly. Again, the player acknowledged the TV (no flashing on the screen) but failed to produce any audio or video (again). Anyone ever have this problem? I used the same brand of cable (Acoustic Research) in both hookups albeit in different lengths. I'm not sure if cable makes a difference. It seems like the problem lies with the player as it produced similar results when going through the receiver and the TV. Any suggestions or just call Denon for support?
post #2618 of 2968
do you have any other HDMI devices? If you do and they do work in your current setup I'd say something is wrong with the player.
post #2619 of 2968
Nothing in my current setup though I tested the player on another TV with HDMI (a DLP Sony) and got the same result.
post #2620 of 2968
I don't know jack about HDMI, but it worked fine going straight from my 2910 to my Samsung 5674 TV
post #2621 of 2968
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Originally Posted by Edward Schatz View Post

I decided to try HDMI with my 2910 for the first time. Unfortunately, the bloody thing doesn't seem to work. I ran the player (firmware 6720-D) through my SR9600 receiver and then HDMI out to my TV. The player acknowledged the SR9600 (as the HDMI part was not flashing), but the receiver did not. It kept defaulting to Analogue even after forcing it to go HDMI (it just flashed). Thinking it might be my receiver, I hooked the player up to my Sony KDL-V32XBR1 TV directly. Again, the player acknowledged the TV (no flashing on the screen) but failed to produce any audio or video (again). Anyone ever have this problem? I used the same brand of cable (Acoustic Research) in both hookups albeit in different lengths. I'm not sure if cable makes a difference. It seems like the problem lies with the player as it produced similar results when going through the receiver and the TV. Any suggestions or just call Denon for support?

Get you manual and recheck all of your settings, including any that might be accessible from the remote. (I don't use HDMI on my 2910.) There are a few issues with switching HDMI, but it should work when connected directly to a display.
post #2622 of 2968
Checked everything and went through the manual a dozen times. I'm going to call tech support
post #2623 of 2968
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

Well, I was told that players made on or after June have 1.1 HDMI. With this HDMI switch I would assume that a firmware change would have been implemented at that time. But others may know better.

Craig

Reading thru this thread as I have just acquired a Denon 2910. It has a manufacture date of April 2005, and a little add-on sticker below the HDMI port that says 'ver 1.1'. I don't have an HDMI cable, or a receiver/projector to accept a signal from it yet, so I don't know how else to confirm it is more than just a sticker applied by the manufacturer. But I thought the information might still be useful to someone.
post #2624 of 2968
My player is v1.1 as is my receiver. After talking to customer support, I took it to an authorized repair facility. 7-10 business days was the estimate so I'll let you know then what the problem was (if anyone cares)
post #2625 of 2968
Anyone know where to get the 6720-B f/w? I'd like to try -D but I would like to be able to roll back to -B if needed. All I can get from Denon is -A for some reason.

Thanks!!
post #2626 of 2968
how do you roll back to previous firmware?
post #2627 of 2968
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Originally Posted by TommyV View Post

how do you roll back to previous firmware?

Re-flash with the older version.
post #2628 of 2968
by re-flash you mean just reload like before?
post #2629 of 2968
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Originally Posted by cnjvh View Post

Anyone know where to get the 6720-B f/w? I'd like to try -D but I would like to be able to roll back to -B if needed. All I can get from Denon is -A for some reason.

Thanks!!

"A" is all their site's offering me as well. Where did you find "B" and "D"? I suspect that you might already know this, but if you google "Denon 2910 firmware" (w/o quotes) there are 3rd party sites with official and un-official firmware versions, including "B".
post #2630 of 2968
Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyV View Post

by re-flash you mean just reload like before?

Yessir.
post #2631 of 2968
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Originally Posted by Damnationdoormat View Post

I'm really thinking DVI is the best connection the 2910 has. I recently bought a Toshiba HD-A1 and that took the place on my HDMI connection that my 2910 was on. Over DVI the 2910's green push and macroblocking issues I encountered over HDMI are greatly and truly noticably reduced.

Just to confirm, I went back to HDMI, the green push and macroblocking are indeed worse, and I also noticed the obvious menu lag the 2910 has is only present over HDMI, over DVI skipping around the menus is as responsive as my A1 over HDMI.

Also the 2910 is an much superior deinterlacer than the A1. Playing interlaced video over the A1 is almost like playing it raw on a PC screen with obvious combing. On the 2910 you really have to look for such problems.
post #2632 of 2968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damnationdoormat View Post

Just to confirm, I went back to HDMI, the green push and macroblocking are indeed worse, and I also noticed the obvious menu lag the 2910 has is only present over HDMI, over DVI skipping around the menus is as responsive as my A1 over HDMI.

You could use a DVI-to-HDMI adapter (or cable).
post #2633 of 2968
I actually noticed more noise in the picture out on the DVI port compared to the HDMI.
post #2634 of 2968
Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyV View Post

I actually noticed more noise in the picture out on the DVI port compared to the HDMI.

If it is any consolation, I have noticed the same thing although I couldn't tell you why.

Mark
post #2635 of 2968
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Where did you find "B" and "D"? I suspect that you might already know this, but if you google "Denon 2910 firmware" (w/o quotes) there are 3rd party sites with official and un-official firmware versions, including "B".

B is what's on there now, D came from one of the sites you mentioned. I never found a downloadable B anywhere...
post #2636 of 2968
I was able to get an official US -D emailed to me from a helpful Denon CSR but I have not gone back and asked him for -B yet.
post #2637 of 2968
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Originally Posted by cnjvh View Post

B is what's on there now, D came from one of the sites you mentioned. I never found a downloadable B anywhere...

"B" might be an internal (to Denon) version that was never downloadable. There were some 3910 versions like that. Only those who's players went in for service got the "internal" version(s).
post #2638 of 2968
The only downloadable ones I've come across are -8, -A and -D MultiRegion. My unit shipped with -C.

An update on my HDMI problem, seems like the jack and its connectors were bad. Too bad I didn't notice until a month out of warranty....argghhhh.
post #2639 of 2968
i reverted back to -A firmware since i wanted to keep my firmware "genuine" from Denon. i don't understand why Denon never released any newer versions for download.

Carmine.
post #2640 of 2968
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Originally Posted by noizemaker View Post

i reverted back to -A firmware since i wanted to keep my firmware "genuine" from Denon. i don't understand why Denon never released any newer versions for download.

Carmine.

They did, but you had to have a certain serial number to have access to them. If you sent your machine in for repair, they would update it. I have an official copy of the -D firmware if you're interested.
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