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post #2401 of 2643
If you are about level in elevation with the HS, then you have some pretty high hills between you and Cohasset. KHSL 12 which also transmits atop Cohasset has more power added to their signal than does KCVU. I get KHSL at 100% while KCVU is only 76%. I have a relative who lives off Ridge Drive who just barely receives UHF20 with a signal of 62% on a good day.

Many months ago I was told that the transmitter used for UHF38 was to get a HD head end so we could get better HD coverage in Redding. I guess that our current state of the economy has flushed that project down the toilet.

Also UHF38 (K38FQ) per FCC names Anderson. I didn't realize Iron Mountain was in Anderson. There must be some correlation because KCVU facility, being in downtown Chico, lists Paradise.
post #2402 of 2643
Thanks for you help!
post #2403 of 2643
Is anybody experiencing issues with KRCR? For the past two days I notice most of the programming is "studdering". It looks like you're playing an internet video with a poor connection, like at a reduced frame rate or something. I have noticed it on evening programming, GMA, and local evening news.
post #2404 of 2643
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Originally Posted by HDFinder View Post

Is anybody experiencing issues with KRCR? For the past two days I notice most of the programming is "studdering". It looks like you're playing an internet video with a poor connection, like at a reduced frame rate or something. I have noticed it on evening programming, GMA, and local evening news.

I was hoping that somebody else was seeing the problem. KRCR is aware of this problem and have been working pretty hard in trying to correct it. IMHO I think that they will need a firmware update for their encoder.

What kind of receiver are you having the stuttering problem?
post #2405 of 2643
There is a problem with KRCR transport which we are working on with our vendor(s).
What we suspect is that there is an error in the SMPTE 310 clock and or processing which has resulted in each receiver treating the signal differently.
Some viewers do not see a problem at all. Others can only get one of the two virtual channels. Others see a jerking or stuttering of the video. Others get video but no audio while some are getting audio but no video. Some can only tune to the native program channel (7-3 or 34-3 rather than the virtual channel 7-1).
However, because of the variety and diverseness of problems, we are concentrating on the ATSC encoder being the problem but have not been able to isolate the exact cause or rule out unrelated combinations of encoder and off air problems.
post #2406 of 2643
Thanks for the updates folks. I assumed it was a transmission problem since it happened during live playback, DVR playback, HD and non HD programming. I was hoping it wasn't the hard disk in my DVR.

I have not experienced sync issues (aside from the studder), no missing audio channel and no video interruption.

I have the DirecTV HR21/AM21 and receive KRCR via channel 7-1.
post #2407 of 2643
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Originally Posted by HDFinder View Post

...I have the DirecTV HR21/AM21 and receive KRCR via channel 7-1...

I was having problems with my Dish Network ViP612 and ViP722. It was affecting both the satellite HD channel and the OTA HD channel.

Everything looks like it is back to normal. I'm not seeing any video problems except for a signal loss every now and then on the OTA channel.
post #2408 of 2643
I was watching a little bit of KRCR Thursday evening and it appeared fine, also this morning (Friday) GMA was fine for short duration I watched.
post #2409 of 2643
For the past few days I've been getting a little macro blocking on KRCR's OTA HD channels. I've been getting severe macro blocking on KRCR's Dish Network HD channel.

Has anyone been seeing any macro blocking on Comcast, Charter or Direct TV?
post #2410 of 2643
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Originally Posted by blastoff View Post

For the past few days I've been getting a little macro blocking on KRCR's OTA HD channels. I've been getting severe macro blocking on KRCR's Dish Network HD channel.

Has anyone been seeing any macro blocking on Comcast, Charter or Direct TV?

I am checking out KRCR right now, Grey's Anatomy. All seems to be fine on 7-1 via my antenna and DirecTV's AM-21.

While the local channels via DirecTV have horrible PQ to start with, I don't see any macro blocking on the DirecTV channel 7 feed.
post #2411 of 2643
The 11/3/2010 issues have been resolved and we have cleared up the problems with KRCR PSIP. However there is an issue remaining with the Dish uplink that is unrelated to prior problems. We are working with their techs to find out why they alone are having such a difficult time with macroblocking.
post #2412 of 2643
Ray,

Are you going to update the data dase from 7 to 34?

Mike
post #2413 of 2643
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Originally Posted by Ray4x4x4 View Post

The 11/3/2010 issues have been resolved and we have cleared up the problems with KRCR PSIP. However there is an issue remaining with the Dish uplink that is unrelated to prior problems. We are working with their techs to find out why they alone are having such a difficult time with macroblocking.

Ray,

When were the, "issues" resolved for the "11/3/2010" problems? I've noticed improvment today.

Thanks
post #2414 of 2643
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Originally Posted by mikemaxj View Post

Ray,

Are you going to update the data dase from 7 to 34?

Mike

DirecTV uses third party vendors to input their database. They use the FCC info. As channel 34 is fully licensed as a translator so it should be in there. Unless you have a receiver which shows native as well as virtual channel numbers you will not know if you are getting 7-7.1 or 34-7.1
post #2415 of 2643
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Originally Posted by Ray4x4x4 View Post

DirecTV uses third party vendors to input their database. They use the FCC info. As channel 34 is fully licensed as a translator so it should be in there. Unless you have a receiver which shows native as well as virtual channel numbers you will not know if you are getting 7-7.1 or 34-7.1

Is the station planning on boosting the power on 7? If yes, when? If no, Why not?

Mike
post #2416 of 2643
Anyone know if any of the locals are planning on adding Antenna TV or MeTV as subchannels?
post #2417 of 2643
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Originally Posted by AKAWalrus View Post

Anyone know if any of the locals are planning on adding Antenna TV or MeTV as subchannels?

I don't know. I never heard of Antenna TV or MeTV until you posted.

I know about MyTV KRVU which is available on OTA.
post #2418 of 2643
Noticed today that DirecTv now lists Eureka as a planned market for HD Locals next year, but no word on Redding. Getting really tired of the BS with DishNetwork and would love to go back to DirecTv.
post #2419 of 2643
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Originally Posted by SoccerGuy3 View Post
Noticed today that DirecTv now lists Eureka as a planned market for HD Locals next year, but no word on Redding. Getting really tired of the BS with DishNetwork and would love to go back to DirecTv.
I have the same frustration with D*. With an OTA antenna pointed at Chico with a booster, I get the locals OK except for KRCR. KRCR recently lowered the power on channel 7 and boosted the power on 34. Since they refuse to update the DirecTV data base, I can't get them on my HR20 anymore. I can watch certain programs with the tuner in the TV, but I can no longer record off of 7.

Mike
post #2420 of 2643
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Originally Posted by mikemaxj View Post

I have the same frustration with D*. With an OTA antenna pointed at Chico with a booster, I get the locals OK except for KRCR. KRCR recently lowered the power on channel 7 and boosted the power on 34. Since they refuse to update the DirecTV data base, I can't get them on my HR20 anymore. I can watch certain programs with the tuner in the TV, but I can no longer record off of 7.

Mike

Mike,
This is tragic for you and others who depend on D* to provide locals. You live in the Redding area and should have a pretty good shot at Bally where KRCR transmits. If you have a UHF antenna only and have to aim it toward Cohasset, with the UHF power increase you should get a good signal for KRCR. It sound like D* has it so you only can get the VHF channel. It seems that D* should have an escalation process where you and others having this problem can get it fixed.

Another thing that is strange is that D* doesn't provide the locals in HD via satellite. That is a bad marketing decision in my opinion.

I've been considering D* but will wait until they get the locals in HD on satellite.

What would really be great is if there were a decent cable company with full bandwidth via fiber optic to the home. so every HD channel could be available with lilttle if any needed compression, plus the fastest of broadband speeds for the Internet, like up to a Gig. I hear Comcast is moving ahead in this technology, too bad Charter can't keep up.
post #2421 of 2643
There are several things with the DirecTV reception that are contributing to my problem. Because I'm so far away from the Chico stations, I need a long range directional antena to receive them. I should be able to get the two Redding stations on this antena also. In fact, before KRCR lowered their power on 7, I got KRCR at 70%, KIXE at 80%, and the Chico stations at 100%.

If I do another sync, the D* receiver will find 34 for for KRCR and that station works OK, but it also finds 36 for KHSL (43) and 18 for KIXE (9). My reception for 36 is marginal and noexistant for 18. If I do the sync with the antena disconected (after a system clear and a reboot to clear run time variables) the receiver only finds the stations in its data base (7, 9, 20, 24, and 43).

If KRCR would change the input to the D* data base to reflect the strongest channel (34), all would work fine. If D* changed their firmware to sync on the strongest signal, all would work well. Because these entitys would rather point fingers than work for a solution, I won't watch KRCR. I don't think I'm missing much.

Mike
post #2422 of 2643
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Originally Posted by mikemaxj View Post

There are several things with the DirecTV reception that are contributing to my problem. Because I'm so far away from the Chico stations, I need a long range directional antena to receive them. I should be able to get the two Redding stations on this antena also. In fact, before KRCR lowered their power on 7, I got KRCR at 70%, KIXE at 80%, and the Chico stations at 100%.

...

If KRCR would change the input to the D* data base to reflect the strongest channel (34), all would work fine. If D* changed their firmware to sync on the strongest signal, all would work well. Because these entitys would rather point fingers than work for a solution, I won't watch KRCR. I don't think I'm missing much.

Mike

Mike,
I checked FCC records and KRCR has a construction permit for VHF7 with power of 84kW ERP. They are licenced for 14.5kW ERP. I really don't know what this means but perhaps they are increasing their power.

It seems like they were going to use a new transmitter antenna. I'm not sure what the circumstances are on that.

For your sake getting a KRCR (a close local channel) needs some form of resolution.
post #2423 of 2643
Noticed this morning that D* had downloaded a new firmware update for the HR20 yesterday morning. Did a sync of my local channels and 7-1 came in fine after the sync. 9-1 and 12-1 also seem to be OK. Maybe code is fixed.

Mike
post #2424 of 2643
Noticed this morning that 9-1 wasn't comming in, so I guess the code in the HR20 isn't fixed. Then I checked the strength of KRCR on the TV tuner. Both 7 and 34 were at about 70%. Then I synced the HR20 with th antenna disconnected and now all channels are comming in fine.

Mike
post #2425 of 2643
Mike,

The new firmware didn't help me. Still no KRCR. From talking to Ray at KRCR, due to my location, I may never get it. Have to wait for DirecTV to feed it to us via satellite...
post #2426 of 2643
Anyone else been having issues with KRCR 7.1 recently and totally tonight? I have 95% signal but the data is garbled and often not even coming through?

Thanks! Merry Xmas!

B
post #2427 of 2643
Having same problem with KRCR 7.1 and 34.1 tonight. Both have strong signal but not watchable.
post #2428 of 2643
Since the signal problem was first reported, at this time I have checked all my ATSC tuners and there is a problem with both KRCR VHF07 and UHF34. There are bouts of macro blocking with audio loss, and on some tuners the signal is completely lost for a second or so.

I see where KRCR reported in the media that the problem is with the "Satellite" I do see this problem on my DISH Network HD channel. The problem isn't with the "Satellite" it is with KRCR TV.

I sure hope that they can get their dirty signal repaired. The problem they are transmitting is very annoying. Their signal problem is affecting the quality of the "Satellite" channel.
post #2429 of 2643
As of this time, KRCR VHF07 and UHF34 are working very well. The signals are clean and I'm not seeing any problems.

What is interesting is I'm getting VHF07 with a signal strength of 95%, much stronger than 78% which I saw just before the previous posted problem. I think that KRCR is using the new VHF antenna with higher power (for now anyway).
post #2430 of 2643
7-1 is back to low power. Anyone know why?

Mike
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