HLP5674W/HLP4674W Owners Thread/Problems/Tweaks/Service Menu/Discretes etc. - Page 51

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Does anybody know if the 74 series TVs have had any firmware upgrades made since they came out? I got mine in December and sort of wondering out loud if the TV has improved in any way, because of software upgrades?
I'm a tweakaholics by heart, and don't want to miss out on any improvements...

I am torn between waiting for the 1080 p set and the 4674 .

I was wondering those out there that bought the 4674 would you buy them again.

I cant go bigger small cabinet.

Thx

For a 46" set, you'd have to be sitting pretty close to visually resolve 1920x1080. What will your viewing distance be?

Where are you in Ohio? Ovation in Cincinnati carries them (513-770-5888). I've worked with Duke the Manager. Good Guy and they will wheel and deal with you.

As far as online, TV Authority is a sponsor on this site. I have also seen some people getting it from Vanns. (www.vanns.com). I've seen good prices from both.

Good luck!

Unfortunately my DVD player is component only. I haven't tried component cables yet on the Moto DVR, but I had the exact same DVR hooked up to another 4674W and the picture on that one looks just fine. It's almost as if my replacement TV has the brightness set 10 or 15 steps below what the previous one was--even though they are the same. Basically, any dark scenes look REALLY dark, even with brightness at 50 and contrast at 90 or 100. If I up the brightness, the picture just starts to look washed out without bringing out any more detail in the darkness. Very odd and very annoying... It seems like my TV either wasn't calibrated right on the DVI port or has something else wrong. I need to do some more testing w/ the component, though, just to rule out a problem with the light engine or something.

Jeff,

I am using the HDMI out with my HD DVR abd have never had a problem.

If you feel very strongly that your replacement has an issue. Maybe you can get a tech out to go through the service menu at their cost.

Thanks for the info! Might be a little too far for me to drive. I live north of
Mansfield.

Rich,

I spent quite a bit of time doing an A/B test of my DVDs on these two sets back in November before choosing the 5674.

To me it was no contest. I was worried that the 6 segment wheel would mean that there would be more banding in dark areas or that the black level of the 5674 would not be as good as the 5663. That worry was unfounded. When I compared them side-by-side the 5674 had a much better contrast with deeper black levels.

The 5674 also had a much sharper image. The 5663 was significantly softer and I preferred the picture on the 5674. Even my wife, who does not share my obsession for video details, felt like she could see the difference.

Have you checked stores selling the 5674 to see if any have a 5663 so that you can see both together?

I haven't looked back. Each time I watch the 5674 (either DVDs or HDTV) I continually am amazed at the picture quality. I keep wondering when this feeling will wear off but so far it hasn't.

Brad

Cheezmo,

We will mostly be in the 10 -15 foot range away.

Part of th ereason I would consider waiting to see if the 50" 1080p is a real unit. If it is it would most likey fit my opening 49" across.

Any way I am not normally this nutty about TV's and I am certainly a novice when it comes to al ot of this.

I was just curious now that the 4674's have been out a while if people overall are pleased and would buy them again.

Thx for the reponse

BJP

I just got my 5674 1/31 and its got firmware version 1111.

Anybody else with different firmware?

I received my 5674 on 1/25 with the same firmware version.

Rich

Go with the 5674. I have one, chose it over the 63 without hesitation and am definitely not looking back. The PQ is fantastic!

mismatched

Update--picture getting better as others said it would--the top "distortion/ants" is gone. I'm really happy with the 5674!

Although last night, in the middle of a movie, it rebooted for no reason to "acquire new guide" for about 3 minutes, then reverted back automatically to the movie Does anyone see this as a problem?

Hey Mismatched, I am in SE Portland and wonder if your using Dish/Direct/Comcast?

Well I just returned my Mitz WD52525. Great picture, great price, LOUD FANS. Just could'nt take it at low volume. Sounds like a server running.

With that said I am seeking the best price on a Samsung HL-P5674 so I just registered on this site to ask you all for suggestions? 2 local retailers, Magnolia & Good Guys have it priced at 3799. Toss in another 350 for extended warranty. I have read thru these posts back to November and was hoping you could make suggestions because I am not a rich man but favorable tax return makes this purchase a reality.

My provider is Dish Network and I have the 510 DVR Receiver. Most of my viewing is SD but I will be using off air antenna until I can afford Dish's HD DVR but it costs another 549 bucks plus 10 bucks for their HD feed. Thx

psprando

I use Comcast and the HD is awesome. And SD is not bad at all. Just got done watching Battlestar Gallactica on the SciFi channel, SD and only 4;3 but still a great picture.

I highly recommend Chelsea Audio Video in Beaverton. They actually beat Magnolia's price and their warranty also covers the bulb. Plus I like the people there. Ask for Ford III.

If you set up your PM (personal messaging) I can give you more details.

This is one heck of a display.

PS Comcasts HD PVR is $5 a month and no upfront fee. Once you see HD you will want a HD DVR regardless of your provider. Comcast gets all kind of grief and I guess if you have to watch CBS football in HD you will not like them. But Fox's HD sports coverage including the Superbowl was/is incredible!! As is 24!!

mismatched

I have been fiddling around with the component outputs from my Comcast Motorola HD DVR to see if they are any better than the DVI connection in terms of producing more detail in dark scenes. However, when I hook it up using Component cables, the picture is "wavy" and looks incredibly bad. If I change the output settings to 1080i then it looks just fine, but if I change it back to 720p, it has that "wavy" problem. The DVR can run at 720p just fine using the DVI output. I just want to make sure this is a known problem with the DVR and not some type of problem with the component inputs on my TV at that resolution.

480P also looks fine using component, since that's how I watch DVDs and if I switch the Motorola box to that the screen doesn't look "wavy". It's just at 720p.

Thanks for the help.

bjpjjs, as Cheezmo said for a 46-50 inch set you would need to be around 7 ft. to be able to see the additional resolution from a 1080P set. At 10 to 15 ft. you would not be able to see any difference between 720P and 1080P.

I have had my 4674 since early Nov. and have had zero issues. PQ was great out of the box. If I could change anything about the set I would improve the black levels, but that could be said for all the current micro display (LCD, LCOS, DLP) RPTVs. I would buy the 4674 again without doubt.

f300v10

Thanks for the post.

That's what I was looking for.

I will be utilizing Direct TV is that what you are using or are you using cable.

Thx BJP

I have the DirecTV using a HR10-250. The ability to time-shift HD is great, I always have something to watch in HD.

What colorspace should be viewable on the 74W? I'm pretty sure of the answer, since I hooked up my powerbook at HD720 to it via DVI and the blacks are clipped at RGB(15, 15, 15)...anything under that is the same black.

I'm still trying to figure out whether the poor display of blacks on the 74W is due to the DVI/HDMI output of the DirecTV H10 or the input processing of the Samsung. The analog component inputs (from the same HD10) to the set are much better black-level wise and seem to display the full range of blacks. The difference in picture between the two is remarkable.


Can't find anything on the H10 thread about it and got 7 days to return the 74W if I don't find a solution.

I'm using the Denon 1910 through DVI, which looks incredible by the way, and I have a lot of overscan.

On the top menu screen of DVE, there a little navigation button icon with directional arrows, and literally half of that is cut off to the left. When I go to the actual overscan image, it seems like over scan is around 5%, but on that main menu screen, it seems like a lot more.

I've been reading here that when I'm receiving 720p, I should have Wide, Expand, and 4:3 options, but I've never seen Expand anywhere but the PC input.

My DVD player is set, in two places, to know that I have a 16:9 screen, so I don't really know what other settings to change.

Is this normal? Has anyone else put in DVE and seen that half cut off button on the top menu page? Has anyone else felt like overscan was a big problem? Am I missing some obvious setting that I will feel silly for not having in the right place?

Thanks.

P.S. This TV is a thing of beauty.

This is known problem with the comcast component outs. 720p is no good but 1080i is fine.

DVI out from this comcast box does not show this problem at 720p. I have my 6214 hooked up DVI out to 5674 HDMI in at 720p with no problems. With that input you can then set the 5674 to "expand" which is a 1:1 pixel mapping of the 720p input and 1-2% overscan. Just gorgeous.

Brad

You should be able to cycle through Wide (TV), Wide (PC), Expand, and 4x3 with the "P. Size" button on your HLP remote control.

Use the "Info" button on the HLP remote to see what your input is.

It should be 1280x720 @ 60Hz. If it's not then your DVD player is not outputting 720p. You mention setting your DVD player to use a 16x9 screen but not what resolution it is outputting.

I haven't used the "info" button to confirm, but, according to the player, it's outputting 720p. Nonetheless, only wide and 4x3 are available.

Should I have these same options on HDMI if I'm outputting from my HD Tivo at 720p? If I'm not mistaken, on there I get Wide, Panorama, Zoom 1, Zoom 2, and 4x3.

I've still never seen Wide (PC) or Expand on any input but the VGA input.

Too bad I'm not at home right now to confirm all my settings and recollections.

That answers that. So is the major overscan I'm seeing unavoidable then?

Hasn't anyone else here with an HDCP-DVI DVD player tried DVE and noticed this issue? It's so surprising that I continue to feel like I have some setting wrong. But maybe that's just how it is.

One other point that may or may not be signficant.

When I change to 4x3 mode, the amount of overscan is exactly the same, just the whole image is squished in from the left and right sides. To the extent that Wide is intentionally causing the overscan, shouldn't I see the full image on 4x3?