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post #511 of 621
Has anyone in this area noticed an improvement in reception from WQED, Pittsburgh since they began digital broadcasting on channel 13?
post #512 of 621
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

Has anyone in this area noticed an improvement in reception from WQED, Pittsburgh since they began digital broadcasting on channel 13?


It is no way near as good as it was before since they went to VHF, but I am running a stacked cm UHF 4228.
post #513 of 621
Any more news on the WTOV/WTRF DirecTv situation?
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Originally Posted by Budracin8 View Post

Any more news on the WTOV/WTRF DirecTv situation?

I haven't heard/seen anything but that's not unusual for Directv who doesn't publicize anything until it happens or is just about to happen. They're still adding new LIL HD stations every week or so according to the forums like this one: www.dbstalk.com. Check out their "DIRECTV Programming and Services" section.
post #515 of 621
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

Has anyone in this area noticed an improvement in reception from WQED, Pittsburgh since they began digital broadcasting on channel 13?



I wish they would of left WQED on uhf. It seems like all stations that left UHF for VHF have lost coverage area. WQED came in fine when it was analog. VHF stations need to up thier power output.
post #516 of 621
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

I wish they would of left WQED on uhf. It seems like all stations that left UHF for VHF have lost coverage area. WQED came in fine when it was analog. VHF stations need to up thier power output.

I was at my brother's home near Flushing for Thanksgiving and we rescanned his TV for WQED on ch 13 but didn't get anything. I was surprised that there wasn't even a hint of signal as he used to at least get them sporadically when they were on UHF. I gave him a new antenna but my nephew hasn't had time to get it installed yet....hopefully that will help reception. He'd like to be able to get WTAE and some others which he lost when analog was dropped.
post #517 of 621
Anyone know if WOUC, Cambridge is having technical problems? I tried to tune them in this evening and discovered their signal is way below the lockable level. Usually they come in here with a 90-100% signal strength level. All my other signal levels seem as usual so don't think it's a problem on my end. Maybe they suffered some damage during the recent windstorms? This is the first time I've tried to view them since the storms.
post #518 of 621
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

Anyone know if WOUC, Cambridge is having technical problems? I tried to tune them in this evening and discovered their signal is way below the lockable level. Usually they come in here with a 90-100% signal strength level. All my other signal levels seem as usual so don't think it's a problem on my end. Maybe they suffered some damage during the recent windstorms? This is the first time I've tried to view them since the storms.


It is fine here as of sat night.
post #519 of 621
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

It is fine here as of sat night.

Sorry...it turned out to be a "false alarm". Apparently the wind had moved my antenna slightly into a "dead zone" and when I adjusted the rotor slightly today, WOUC popped back in at the usual 100% reading. I've noticed before that there are some "dead zones" here where signal strength drops off dramatically and can strongly affect digital reception. This antenna seems to be highly directional at times also. I was happy to learn that neither they nor I had any real problem.
post #520 of 621
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Originally Posted by Budracin8 View Post

Any more news on the WTOV/WTRF DirecTv situation?

I can't say how true it is as i was surprised to hear about this myself, but today a friend of mine told me that within three months the Wheeling-Steub channels will be on DirecTV and Dish. I'm not sure why, but he seemed to indicate that DirectV would be first via WTOV and then Dish would happen via WTRF. again I am unclear of why it woudl work that way, but apparently Dish and DirecTV install something at the locations.

Wish I knew more, and i wish I could say for sure. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I have Dish, and there is no way in heck I'm going to pay Jefferson Co Cable any money for local channels.

TS
post #521 of 621
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Originally Posted by tovsucks View Post

I can't say how true it is as i was surprised to hear about this myself, but today a friend of mine told me that within three months the Wheeling-Steub channels will be on DirecTV and Dish. I'm not sure why, but he seemed to indicate that DirectV would be first via WTOV and then Dish would happen via WTRF. again I am unclear of why it woudl work that way, but apparently Dish and DirecTV install something at the locations.

Wish I knew more, and i wish I could say for sure. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I have Dish, and there is no way in heck I'm going to pay Jefferson Co Cable any money for local channels.

TS

I hope this happens!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #522 of 621
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I have been hearing DirecTV "when they launch their new satellite" WTOV will be available.
post #523 of 621
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

I have been hearing DirecTV "when they launch their new satellite" WTOV will be available.

Well Directv's D12 sat launched yesterday and according to the info on DBSTalk we may see it start broadcasting channels in 90-120 days.

I will be a happy camper when D* starts providing Wheeling/Steubenville locals. Maybe it isn't possible but I'm hoping that if they pick up WTRF that all of the channels will be in HD instead of the squashed crap you get from them via OTA.
post #524 of 621
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WTRF has problems big time. Sundays Steelers game was not in HD on Comcast and OTA. It seems like there is a problem on HD shows on WTRF 7.1. I hope that Directv pulls through on locals for Steubenville/Wheeling areas.
post #525 of 621
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Originally Posted by j2fast View Post

Well Directv's D12 sat launched yesterday and according to the info on DBSTalk we may see it start broadcasting channels in 90-120 days.

I will be a happy camper when D* starts providing Wheeling/Steubenville locals. Maybe it isn't possible but I'm hoping that if they pick up WTRF that all of the channels will be in HD instead of the squashed crap you get from them via OTA.

Directv generally has a policy of not carrying any local station's subchannels and only relays whatever the local station feeds them. If they begin providing the Wheeling/Steubenville locals, it will most likely be just 7.1 and 9.1. I just hope for all concerned that WTRF supplies Directv with a signal that is better than the over-compressed mush that they broadcast OTA on 7.1.
post #526 of 621
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[quote=rluyster;17819222]Directv generally has a policy of not carrying any local station's subchannels and only relays whatever the local station feeds them. If they begin providing the Wheeling/Steubenville locals, it will most likely be just 7.1 and 9.1. I just hope for all concerned that WTRF supplies Directv with a signal that is better than the over-compressed mush that they broadcast OTA on 7.1.[/QUOTE


WTRF picture looks bad................................................
post #527 of 621
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

Directv generally has a policy of not carrying any local station's subchannels and only relays whatever the local station feeds them.

I know the lack of subchannels is a big complaint with Direct but since TRF's subs are the DMA's only ABC and CBS feeds I'm hoping we can at least get all four major networks.

That said, I would actually prefer it if they picked up CBS and NBC from Wheeling/Steubenville then ABC and FOX from the Pittsburgh DMA as significantly viewed stations like the cable providers.

Of course being in the 156th DMA in size I supposed we should be happy if they give us anything.....
post #528 of 621
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Originally Posted by j2fast View Post

I know the lack of subchannels is a big complaint with Direct but since TRF's subs are the DMA's only ABC and CBS feeds I'm hoping we can at least get all four major networks.

That said, I would actually prefer it if they picked up CBS and NBC from Wheeling/Steubenville then ABC and FOX from the Pittsburgh DMA as significantly viewed stations like the cable providers.

Of course being in the 156th DMA in size I supposed we should be happy if they give us anything.....



I agree with you. I hope that we would get some feeds from Pittsburgh's DMA
post #529 of 621
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Originally Posted by j2fast View Post

I know the lack of subchannels is a big complaint with Direct but since TRF's subs are the DMA's only ABC and CBS feeds I'm hoping we can at least get all four major networks.

That said, I would actually prefer it if they picked up CBS and NBC from Wheeling/Steubenville then ABC and FOX from the Pittsburgh DMA as significantly viewed stations like the cable providers.

Of course being in the 156th DMA in size I supposed we should be happy if they give us anything.....

Adding the significantly viewed ABC and Fox Pittsburgh stations to a Wheeling/Steubenville locals package would make the most sense as I doubt that WTRF could even supply them with anything other than a SD version of those two networks. It would also save them bandwidth to do so. However, there may be some legal issues that WTRF could bring up? Also, is the Directv spot beam for the Pittsburgh DMA large enough to cover the Wheeling/Steubenville DMA? I think so, but I'm not sure.

Also, if I recall correctly, Wheeling/Steubenville is the 159th DMA.
post #530 of 621
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Rabbitears.com has Wheeling/Steubenville listed as 139th. Maybe we moved up, because we were 159th.....................................
post #531 of 621
RabbitEars.Info is not using the Nielsen DMA system, either.

- Trip
post #532 of 621
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Trip

Thanks for the info.
post #533 of 621
Everybody watching WTOV 9.1 should complain about their HD picture quality taking a nosedive whenever they put that silly "Snowbird" graphic on screen. The picture remains 16x9 but the resolution drops to what looks like SD.
post #534 of 621
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I noticed that during the football game Sunday night.
post #535 of 621
I noticed too that they've been vertically squeezing their 16x9 11 PM newscasts, leaving a thin black bar on either side, so they could put overly large "school closing" announcements in the lower part of the screen along with the reduced resolution. I suppose all of this is because they don't have the proper equipment yet...but wouldn't a simple scroll running across the bottom of the screen be sufficient? They do that for winning lottery numbers etc. WTOV is certainly not the only station guilty of this kind of thing but I get irked that stations don't seem to care how badly they screw up their video. Some of the Cleveland stations make a mess of things also.
post #536 of 621
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

I noticed too that they've been vertically squeezing their 16x9 11 PM newscasts, leaving a thin black bar on either side, so they could put overly large "school closing" announcements in the lower part of the screen along with the reduced resolution. I suppose all of this is because they don't have the proper equipment yet...but wouldn't a simple scroll running across the bottom of the screen be sufficient? They do that for winning lottery numbers etc. WTOV is certainly not the only station guilty of this kind of thing but I get irked that stations don't seem to care how badly they screw up their video. Some of the Cleveland stations make a mess of things also.

I am not sure there is much they can do to fix that problem other newer equipment...........................
post #537 of 621
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W30CO-D Wheeling is up and running 30/24 4.5 kW ERP . The signal is strong here just west of Wintersville Ohio. This is a translator for WNPB Ch 24 Morgantown WV

Thanks

Tom
post #538 of 621
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

W30CO-D Wheeling is up and running 30/24 4.5 kW ERP . The signal is strong here just west of Wintersville Ohio. This is a translator for WNPB Ch 24 Morgantown WV

Thanks

Tom

I really didn't think I could pick them up this far away but when checking ch 30 today, I did notice a weak, fluctuating signal that won't lock. It reminds me of what WTRF-DT's signal looked like here before they went to ch 7 and boosted their power. When did they come on the air? I know my brother near Flushing OH receives WNPB as I saw it at Christmas but it may have been via the Morgantown transmitter on 33.1 if ch 30 just came on. I know he used to regularly receive the analog ch 24 from Morgantown when it was still on.
post #539 of 621
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I just found out about it the other day, so I am not sure when they started broadcasting over the air.
post #540 of 621
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I had the Comcast guy here doing some tests on the internet and he told me that they had a meeting and Steubenville Ohio will make the switch in April.......................
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