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post #61 of 2454
ready to be installed
LL
post #62 of 2454
Plug it in! Plug it in!
post #63 of 2454
Damn that looks nice...box was deceiving...looks small in your room....can the legs come off for wall mounting? Turn it on and give us a review come on....where are you located so that we can all come over for a closer look :)
post #64 of 2454
I'm dying to click the order button. I can pick up the Dell HD unit for [MSRP only] + tax and free shipping.
post #65 of 2454
How are you getting it for $**** instead of $****
post #66 of 2454
Its a secret :)
post #67 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by KevinJ
I'm dying to click the order button. I can pick up the Dell HD unit for $**** + tax and free shipping.
I was warned that posting prices different from MSRP is against the forum rules...

Anyway, I'm stopping by a Dell Store tomorrow. This is the same deal they quoted me over the phone, and they promised to have the HD unit up on display. Hopefully, there will be other units nearby for comparison...
post #68 of 2454
Please remember forum rules: no coupon talk/ MSRP only
post #69 of 2454
Are there any Dell Store locations in MD/VA/PA? I can't seem to find a link on Dell's website for the normally ever present Store Locator.
post #70 of 2454
Sorry about that - I did find it...

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topi...=19&l=en&s=dhs
post #71 of 2454
For those of you considering the Dell - what are your thoughts on the Extended Warranty offerings?
post #72 of 2454
Hi,

I wanted to know how this plasma is compared to the NEC 42VP4A based on specs.

I can get the NEC through my work for $250 cheaper (employee discount only) than the discounted Dell price of the Dell TV and wanted to see which way I should go.

Thanks!
post #73 of 2454
Here are the specs. I would have posted a link of the specs, but don't have the minimum 5 post to post a link. LOL (been a member since 2001)

Model Number PX-42VP4PA


Diagonal Screen Size 42"


Screen Aspect Ratio 16 to 9


Active Screen Area 921mm x 518 mm


Native Pixel Resolution 853 vertical dots x 480 horizontal rows


Pixel Pitch 1.08 mm square


Capsulated Color Filter AR - Anti-reflective (PX-42VP4A)


Color Processing (4096 steps) 68.7 billion colors


Viewing Angle 160 degrees


Vertical Frequency Range 50 to120 Hz auto, step scan


PC Signal Compatibility VGA 640x480 @ 60,72,75,85,100, 120 Hz
SVGA 800x600 @ 56, 60, 72,75,85,100,120 Hz
XGA 1024x768 @ 60,70,75, 85, 100 Hz
SXGA 1280x1024 @ 60, 75, 85, 100 Hz
UXGA 1600x1200 @ 60, 65, 70, 75, 85 Hz
WideVGA 848x480, 852 x 480 @ 60 Hz
WideXGA 1360 x 765 @60 Hz


Macintosh Compatibility 640x480, 832x624, 1024x768, 1152x870


HD Video Signal Compatibility 480p 480i, 525p, 525i, 540p, 625p, 625i, 720p,1035i, 1080i


Input Terminals RGB 1 (analog) 15-pin mini D-sub (common use with RGB out, selectable)
RGB 2 (analog) 5 BNC (RGB/HV) (common use with 5BNC Y/Pb/Pr input, selectable)
RGB 3 (digital) 29-pin DVI (digital only)
Video 1 Composite BNC x 1 (common use with video out, selectable)
Video 2 Composite RCA x 1
Video 3 S-Video 4-Pin DIN
HD Video 1 1 set RCA Component (Y,Pb,Pr/Y,Cb,Cr)
HD Video 2 1 set BNC Component (Y,Pb,Pr/Y,Cb,Cr)
(common use with 5BNC Y/Pb/Pr input,selectable)
Audio 3 sets RCA stereo + external speaker jacks


Audio Internal amplifier, 8W x 2 output power


External Controls 9-pin mini D-Sub, RS232


User Controls Direct Access Power on/off, input selection, volume up/down, OSM access, (Control
Lock Switch located on input panel)
Remote Control Power on/off, input select, volume, mute, wide, display, off-timer, OSM
control, cursor, pointer, zoom, auto, select


Plug and Play DDC1, DDC2B (RGB3 is DDC2B only)


Power Requirements 120V 50/60 Hz


Power Consumption 275 W Typical, 3.7 Amp Maximum


Dimensions (WxHxD) w/o base 40.1 x 24.0 x 3.5 inches, 1018 x 610 x 89mm


Weight without tabletop stand 28.5 kg, 62.8 lbs


Environmental Considerations Operating Temperature 32 - 104 degrees F (0 - 40 degrees C)
Operating Humidity 20 - 80%
Operating Altitude 0 - 9180 feet (0 - 2800m)
Storage Temperature 14 - 122 degrees F (-10 - 50 degrees C)
Storage Humidity 10 - 90%
Storage Altitude 0 to 9840 feet (0 - 3000m)


Warranty 1 Year Parts & Labor Standard


Regulatory FCC Class A, UL1950, CSA950


Included Accessories AC Power Cord, User Manual, Remote Control, Batteries, Cable Clamps


Optional Accessories Tabletop Stand PX-ST1U
Attachable Speakers PX-42SP1U
Fixed Wall Mount FWMK
Tilt Wall Mount TWMK
Ceiling Mount CMK
Fixed Wall Mount for PC FWMKPC
Tilit Wall Mount for PC TWMKPC
Ceiling Mount for PC CMKPC


OSM Picture - Contrast, brightness, sharpness, color, tint, color temperature, white balance, picture mode, noise reduction, gamma, low tone and color tune
Audio - bass, treble, balance and audio input
Image Adjust - aspect ratio mode, vertical position, horizontal position,
vertical height, horizontal width, fine picture, picture adjust, auto picture
post #74 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by rault
Native Pixel Resolution 853 vertical dots x 480 horizontal rows
There's the first big difference. That one is an EDTV. The Dell is an HDTV with 1024 x 768 resolution.
post #75 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by Toxarch
There's the first big difference. That one is an EDTV. The Dell is an HDTV with 1024 x 768 resolution.
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't true HD have to be atleast 1280x720. I know that it can display HD material but I was curious how they are listing it as HD with the 1024x768 resolution. Unless that is because of the integrated HD tuner.

A friend of mine was very interested in possibly purchasing this setup, so I wanted to be able to give him the correct information.
post #76 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by rault
Hi,

I wanted to know how this plasma is compared to the NEC 42VP4A based on specs.

I can get the NEC through my work for $250 cheaper (employee discount only) than the discounted Dell price of the Dell TV and wanted to see which way I should go.

Thanks!
Besides being only a ED vs. HD for Dell. I believe this NEC is only a monitor, meaning it doesn't have a built-in NTSC or ATSC tuner, where as Dell has both. A stand-alone ATSC tuner to receive OTA HD signals will cost over $200.
post #77 of 2454
MSRP is on Dell's Web site and anyone can see the discount price available to the public and I can get it for less than MSRP. Is that better, everyone happy now?

Now where's the review man.......

Quote:
Originally posted by Fant
How are you getting it for $**** instead of $****
post #78 of 2454
I had a brief look at the Dell W4200HD at lunch today at the Dell kiosk in a mall. This kiosk is near a large area of glass, and it was a sunny day, so there was plenty of light.

The controls were set at 50% brightness and 50% contrast; probably out of the box settings, since they just hooked it up yesterday. The feed was a continuous loop of material fed from a PC server (not an HD broadcast or a DVD).

I thought the picture looked bright enough; maybe not as bright as some other plasma sets, but there was no other TV in site to compare it to. So, perhaps the relatively low nits rating for this set is not a big deal.

I had been concentrating all my research on a DLP model, but have just recently determined that it will not fit my cabinet. The Dell will. So, I am not a good judge of the PQ versus other plasmas.

Having said that, it appeared to me to be a little grainy, but could this be a result of the feed from the PC? There also appeared to be too much greens, but again this set probably had no adjustments yet.

This brings me to a question about 1024x768 resolution devices: Are all inputs converted to 768p? i.e. 480p, 720p (strange mapping), and 1080i inputs would be converted up or down to fit the 1024x768 resolution?

BTW, I think I liked it. The form factor is awesome. I just am not sure what to think yet about the PQ (i.e. was the PC feed not optimal).

Thanks
post #79 of 2454
mirage00,

Did the manuals come on a CD (pdf files)? If so, maybe you could post them, or please send to me. :)

Thanks
post #80 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by abward
mirage00,

Did the manuals come on a CD (pdf files)? If so, maybe you could post them, or please send to me. :)

Thanks
The link was posted earlier in the post... here it is again!

support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/W4200/
post #81 of 2454
mirage00,

I hope you had enough time to setup and enjoy your new toy! I think I'm safe to say that we're all eagerly awaiting your comments (if not an outright review)!!!!!

Apparently (from abward's post), the PQ is not exceptional enough to convert him from DLP outright. He sounded more impressed with the form factor than anything else... :eek:

Btw, I read the user manual downloaded from Dell's website, and got confused!!! It showed the detachable speakers as "options"?? I thought the speakers are included, no? Since your pictures do not show them, I'm starting to think that's the case!! :mad:

Can you please confirm?! If it doesn't come with speakers, how can they call it a tv?? Or, does it come with smaller built-in speakers? :confused:
post #82 of 2454
mfan - I believe the speakers are optional for the ED model and included for the HD model.
post #83 of 2454
WOWOWOW.... Ok pictures to be posted by midnight....

brief review...Worth every dime!!!!!! Blacks are BLACK!! brightness level seems fine and I kept it at the factory setting of 1/2 max contrast and brightness. I will post a more thorough review in a little while.
post #84 of 2454
The speakers came in a seperate box.... they are included with the HD model and optional on the ED.
post #85 of 2454
What about the viewing angle? The Dell web site lists a vert. & horiz. angle of 80 degrees. This is half the Panasonics.
post #86 of 2454
its 160 degrees... if you look closely DELL lists it as plus minus 80 which is 160.
post #87 of 2454
Hi, I just came back from a Dell kiosk at the mall in San Jose and the sales person told me this plasma is made by Samsung. They have a sign right in front stating the price, which is one Benjamin less than the online price. I am very close to pulling the trigger on this. The set looked good on display, but of course, they were playing some commerical HD material that's made to make this set look great. I wish I can compare it side by side to another plasma.
post #88 of 2454
mirage00 when you have time, please post pictures of your plasma in action. I am curious about this one for my parents. Hopefully you could post some 1) SD pictures from cable feed, 2) HD pictures, and 3) DVD pictures at 480p (or upconverted). Thanks. I am not as interested in the black levels (since most plasmas this year are pretty much all right in terms of contrast) I am more interested in the amount of artifacts.
post #89 of 2454
Quote:
Originally posted by AcuraTL
Hi, I just came back from a Dell kiosk at the mall in San Jose and the sales person told me this plasma is made by Samsung. They have a sign right in front stating the price, which is one Benjamin less than the online price. I am very close to pulling the trigger on this. The set looked good on display, but of course, they were playing some commerical HD material that's made to make this set look great. I wish I can compare it side by side to another plasma.
Which mall did you go to? I'll probably stop by the Valley Fair this weekend. I have a paper [a 6 letter word that I can't say] for 10% off of the Dell plasma HD. If they let me combine it with their discount price, I'm buying one right there!


Mirage00,

The suspense is killing me! So, what's the vertict?!?! I have a couple of questions that I can't find the answer on the owner manual. Does it allow customized settings for different signal sources? Another word, can I save a set of video settings for DVD, another set for satellite, and yet another set for OTA? Also, can it expand 4:3 HD signals to fill the entire screen? Another word, if the HD signal only has 4:3 video and fills the rest with black borders, can it expand the 4:3 video to fill the 16:9 screen, so not to cause burn-ins?

Thanks!
post #90 of 2454
mfan, cool your horses:-). ... wait for at least reports from 2 people. When we buy something we often want to psychologically justify our purchase and will sometimes "overlook" problems. Safer to wait for at least 2 people's reviews:)
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