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post #1 of 178
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I have been looking at speakers quite a bit lately and recently heard the Paradigm Studio series speakers. They were running a Denon 3805 that sounded very good, but I was wondering what you guys were using.

Craig
post #2 of 178
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Originally posted by starin
Denon is good. It really depends on what speakers you are going to use. The 100s need at least 200 watts/ea of clean power, so most Denon are going to be a little weak for that. If you are using 60s or 40s, you won't need as much power. If you're running 100s for mains, I'd definitely recommend separates or at least a separate amp dedicated to them.

If I go Paradigm... I don't think I will be getting the 100's.
In fact, I am mulling over the idea of getting the ADP 370's instead of the 470's for rear surround.

Craig
post #3 of 178
Altough I own Paradigm Monitors, I'm too looking for an AVR. I pretty much deciding between Denon 3805 and Marantz SR7500. I am too interested in you all opinion

Suffolk, how was the Denon-Paradigm combo, was it really that good? Did you try to hook up Marantz and A/B them?
post #4 of 178
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Originally posted by agi
Altough I own Paradigm Monitors, I'm too looking for an AVR. I pretty much deciding between Denon 3805 and Marantz SR7500. I am too interested in you all opinion

Suffolk, how was the Denon-Paradigm combo, was it really that good? Did you try to hook up Marantz and A/B them?

The Denon was exceptional. I was listening to the Studio 20's. Its all my dealer had at the time in the Studio line. I didn't A/B anything else with the Denon. I don't know how I would describe the sound. I would say it was a very crisp and detailed warm rich sound. The sound really grabbed me and pulled me in.
Don't get me wrong regarding the motives for this post... I think the Denon would be a solid choice to match with the Paradigm Studios. I just wanted to get some opinions from other members as to what they are using. Some receivers I recently have heard that I would love to hear with the Studio speakers would be the Pioneer Elite 56txi, the Harmon Kardon 630 or the soon to be released 635 and something in the Rotel line. Maybe the RSP-1068 and RMB-1075 pre-amp and amp combo.


Craig
post #5 of 178
I've got Studio 40's (v3) and a Studio CC (v2) powered by a Pioneer Elite 47tx. They sound terrific. Couldn't be happier. If pressed, though, I'd ask for a bit more power.
post #6 of 178
I have Paradigm Studio V2s - 100s (Front), 60s (Rear), 20s (Back), Studio CC - I am currently using an Outlaw 950 with Parasound Amps. I will be getting the Sherwood P-965 next week. I personally think that AVRs are good for start-up Home Theaters, but seperates take it to a different level. Channel seperation and dynamics just seem better with a Pre/pro and good quality amps. I think you will notice a significant difference in the detail in the sound provided by seperates. All of that said, you will get 90+% of the impact of the presenation through a good quality AVR. I previously owned a Denon 3802 and loved it when I was running Studio 20's alll around.

JK
post #7 of 178
Do you think I will get the same effect pairing Denon 3805 with Paradigm Monitors?

Decisions, decisions ...
post #8 of 178
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Originally posted by starin
Denon is good. It really depends on what speakers you are going to use. The 100s need at least 200 watts/ea of clean power, so most Denon are going to be a little weak for that. If you are using 60s or 40s, you won't need as much power. If you're running 100s for mains, I'd definitely recommend separates or at least a separate amp dedicated to them.

You do not need a receiver or amp with atleast 200w per channel to run the 100's. The number of watts per channel is not the only contributing factor to powering speakers. You can have all the watts in the world but if you don't have the high current output stage to drive the speakers the watts won't matter. The 100's are fairly sensitive speakers which means it doesn't take too much power to drive them if your listening at moderate levels. If your using them in HT then you'll more than likely have a sub to handle the LFE and anything below the crossover point. This in itself will take alot of strain off the receiver/amp and the speakers and allow them to sing.

Kevin

PS: Welcome back Artisn.
post #9 of 178
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Originally posted by Kevin. W
You do not need a receiver or amp with atleast 200w per channel to run the 100's. The number of watts per channel is not the only contributing factor to powering speakers. You can have all the watts in the world but if you don't have the high current output stage to drive the speakers the watts won't matter. The 100's are fairly sensitive speakers which means it doesn't take too much power to drive them if your listening at moderate levels. If your using them in HT then you'll more than likely have a sub to handle the LFE and anything below the crossover point. This in itself will take alot of strain off the receiver/amp and the speakers and allow them to sing.

Kevin

PS: Welcome back Artisn.


Agreed, but the 100's cost more so they must be better right?
post #10 of 178
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Originally posted by suffolk112000
The Denon was exceptional. I was listening to the Studio 20's. Its all my dealer had at the time in the Studio line. I didn't A/B anything else with the Denon. I don't know how I would describe the sound. I would say it was a very crisp and detailed warm rich sound. The sound really grabbed me and pulled me in.
Don't get me wrong regarding the motives for this post... I think the Denon would be a solid choice to match with the Paradigm Studios. I just wanted to get some opinions from other members as to what they are using. Some receivers I recently have heard that I would love to hear with the Studio speakers would be the Pioneer Elite 56txi, the Harmon Kardon 630 or the soon to be released 635 and something in the Rotel line. Maybe the RSP-1068 and RMB-1075 pre-amp and amp combo.


Craig


I have an Elite 56TXi with Paradigm Studio 60's up front. I LOVE IT!
post #11 of 178
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Originally posted by Blkout
I have an Elite 56TXi with Paradigm Studio 60's up front. I LOVE IT!

Me too , though I only use it to power my rears while using a NAD S250 to power the fronts. The 56TXi is buy far the best bang for the buck($1000+ range) receiver around.

Kevin
post #12 of 178
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Kevin. W and Blkout,

Yes, I bet the 56txi sounds sensational with Paridign's. It's one of the brands on my short list that I would love to hear on the Studio speakers!
However, my local authorized dealer wants $1500 for the Elite.
My original budget for a receiver was $1000.
Recently I had the opportunity to hear a Rotel RSX-1067 on some Klipsch Reference speakers. What a difference the Rotel made!! We went from listening to a Yamaha 2500 to the Rotel.
I could get the Rotel for about $400 more than the 56txi.
If I am going to break the budget, by $500 bucks for the 56txi, I figure I might as well get the Rotel.
Did you guys get the 56txi for $1000 from an on-line dealer or a local authorized one?

Craig
post #13 of 178
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Originally posted by suffolk112000
Kevin. W and Blkout,

Yes, I bet the 56txi sounds sensational with Paridign's. It's one of the brands on my short list that I would love to hear on the Studio speakers!
However, my local authorized dealer wants $1500 for the Elite.
My original budget for a receiver was $1000.
Recently I had the opportunity to hear a Rotel RSX-1067 on some Klipsch Reference speakers. What a difference the Rotel made!! We went from listening to a Yamaha 2500 to the Rotel.
I could get the Rotel for about $400 more than the 56txi.
If I am going to break the budget, by $500 bucks for the 56txi, I figure I might as well get the Rotel.
Did you guys get the 56txi for $1000 from an on-line dealer or a local authorized one?

Craig


PM me and I'll tell you where I got my 56TXi, can't discuss prices here on the forum.
post #14 of 178
I have a pair of Studio 100s v2 which have have used for about 3 years. Originally I had it matched up with a Denon 3801 which was a pretty good (I thought) match in terms of price and performance at the time. However, earlier this year I upgraded to a Korsun V8i ($1000usd, but intergrated only) and the difference in quality for music was absolutely staggering. The difference was between night and day. The 100s soaked up the additional power and the music was simply sensational.

Bottom line: Don't sell yourself short by pairing your Paradigms with some crappy AV amp. And by 'crap' I mean anything in the neighborhood of a denon 3805, yamaha 2500, marantz 7400 et al. At least borrow a decent integrated or power amp (dual torroids if possible) for a test at least.
post #15 of 178
I have 40's,CC, and ADP's Version 2 with a Pioneer Elite 45TX and I'm very happy.

If your running 100's, you'll need at east a good 2 channel amp to power them. They can soak up the power.

There are a lot of good 2 or 3 channel amps for sale for great prices.
post #16 of 178
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Originally posted by mcgarnagle
I have a pair of Studio 100s v2 which have have used for about 3 years. Originally I had it matched up with a Denon 3801 which was a pretty good (I thought) match in terms of price and performance at the time. However, earlier this year I upgraded to a Korsun V8i ($1000usd, but intergrated only) and the difference in quality for music was absolutely staggering. The difference was between night and day. The 100s soaked up the additional power and the music was simply sensational.

Bottom line: Don't sell yourself short by pairing your Paradigms with some crappy AV amp. And by 'crap' I mean anything in the neighborhood of a denon 3805, yamaha 2500, marantz 7400 et al. At least borrow a decent integrated or power amp (dual torroids if possible) for a test at least.

How about the monitor series - will Monitor 7's benefit as much as the Studio 100s do from a dedicated/separate amplifier?
post #17 of 178
Well, I guess my Marantz 7300 is considered crap, according to mcgargle (thanks, big guy) but that's what I have my Monitor 5s, PS-1200, CC-370, and ADP-370s hooked up to. I think it sounds great.

A lot of places pair Paradigms with Marantz from what I hear, not sure why.

Used to have an 8200 hooked up, that sounded great as well.
post #18 of 178
I have 40's, 20's, ADP's and CC connected to my Elite 45tx.

I know when I bought my setup, most were running there Studio's with Elite recievers. I think the sound of the Elite recievers complements the Studio series very well.
post #19 of 178
I guess I have another crap system. I have a Denon 3805 pushing paradigm mini monitors up front with a cc-350 center ADP 170's and a M&K sub.

Funny, it sounds pretty awesome to me. I used to have an Elite (26tx), and I am hearing things I never heard before with my old Elite.

So, mcgarnagle. I guess opinions are like a**holes. Don't be one, okay?

Regards,

Hoss.
post #20 of 178
I have Studio 20, Studio Ref CC running Elite 45TX, Tempest DIY sub w/ 375W amp. It sounds good but at loud volume the 45TX produce compressed sound. So I just bought the Acurus 200x3 for the front 3 leaving the surround duty to the 45tx. Haven't had much time to test it though.

Althought the Studio 20 is good with music and HT, it's nowhere close to my DIY Eros designed by Wayne J at speakerbuilder.net.

I'm still using my Studio 20 and Ref CC for HT while the Eros as dedicated Stereo music.


99RedSi:
When I bought my Studio 20, I also audition the Monitor 7, direct A/B comparison. The studio 20 blew away the Monitor 7 completely like night and day and for the same price it was a no brainer.

If you like loud music or HT playback, you'll definitely benefit from more powerful external amp. Even though I've been told the 45TX produce more power than it spec I find it not quite enough for the Paradigm at loud volume.
post #21 of 178
Studio 100's, 20's CC, and ADP's hooked up to a B&K ref 50 and a Gemstone audio Blue Diamond power amp.
post #22 of 178
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Originally posted by afaa
I have Studio 20, Studio Ref CC running Elite 45TX, Tempest DIY sub w/ 375W amp. It sounds good but at loud volume the 45TX produce compressed sound. So I just bought the Acurus 200x3 for the front 3 leaving the surround duty to the 45tx. Haven't had much time to test it though.

Althought the Studio 20 is good with music and HT, it's nowhere close to my DIY Eros designed by Wayne J at speakerbuilder.net.

I'm still using my Studio 20 and Ref CC for HT while the Eros as dedicated Stereo music.


99RedSi:
When I bought my Studio 20, I also audition the Monitor 7, direct A/B comparison. The studio 20 blew away the Monitor 7 completely like night and day and for the same price it was a no brainer.

If you like loud music or HT playback, you'll definitely benefit from more powerful external amp. Even though I've been told the 45TX produce more power than it spec I find it not quite enough for the Paradigm at loud volume.

It may have been the same price for you but it wasn't for me! I got the Monitor 7s for like $429, if I remember correctly.
post #23 of 178
Hoss,

If you're satisfied with your setup that's great. We're all happy for you.

But seriously, crack open your AV amp and look at the dinky little power supplies and then ask yourself what kind of difference an amp like this could do for your speakers.

http://www.korsun.com.cn/images/prod...8i_tx4_big.jpg

This thing sells for the same price as a 3805 (1000 usd).

Again, only 2 channels but for music this will make your Paradigms sing/rock whatever. And unless you have really high end rear speakers you can match it up with a cheap Denon 2105 or Marantz 4500 for a killer setup that is both good in movies and music.

Of course, I'm just being an A**, why would anyone want to look at something other than denon/yamaha/pioneer/marantz? yeesh!
post #24 of 178
mcgarnagle

First of all, Your "We're all happy for you comment", is about par given your previous post. Smug condescension. I could give a crap if your happy for me or not.

As for as the power supply goes, I don't have to pop it open, I can see it through the grill. I know its not the biggest out there, but really, have you even heard the Denon?
Look, I don't care if a receiver weighs 80 lbs, it's the sound that matters.
Anyway, given a normal sized living room of which I have, this receiver has more than enough juice to drive my speakers as loud as I would ever want them to go. And given how feature rich this receiver is, i.e. auto eq, video trans-coding (up-conversion, whatever), its a winner to me. As well as many others.

So next time why don't you just post your suggestion, not run other peoples equipment down, and I'll keep my a** comments to myself as well.

Regards,

Hoss
post #25 of 178
4 Monitor 7's , CC370, 2 Mini Monitors and a PW2200

I started out with just a Yamaha 1400 but found it started to sound "stressed" at moderate to high listening levels. Added a Bryston 9B-ST for 5ch and left the rears on the 1400. The difference was astonishing!
I liked it so much better I had to go out and get a 4B-ST for the mains and took all the load off the Yammy. Now my system has so much headroom that at any level I choose it never sounds stressed or harsh and you would never know you were listening at reference. I think at the end of the day, ANY speaker will benefit from as much clean power as you can afford. AVRs just don't have the power supplies to keep up with the dynamic loads that today's digital sound tracks demand.
post #26 of 178
I've got Monitor 7v2's for mains, Mini Monitor surrounds, CC-370 and a Servo 15v2 sub. Will be adding ADP-370's within a few months. Originally ran this system with an Integra 5.2, and when I moved and built my new HT I stepped into an NAD T773. I love the NAD, but for about the same price I now know I could have probably done better with separates.

This is in a 15x24' room that isn't acoustically treated yet. Seats come in next week and will then determine what I need for treatments to finish it off.
post #27 of 178
I have me a 3805 receiver pushing only my Studio 20's and the CC570 center channels. They sound terric. Still waiting to get me some Studio 60's.

GC
post #28 of 178
Paradigm Monitor 11's up front, cc370 Center, Infinity Beta 250's for surround and a definitive Technologies Pro 100 Sub. All powered by an HK AVR 525. Recently hooked up SACD to it and I can't believe my ears. Up until I hooked that SACD up I never went to listen to music, I was strictly Home theater guy, things have changed!
post #29 of 178
Paradigm Signature S8, C5 and 2 pairs of S2.

Powered by Anthem Statement P5 and Bryston 4BSST. Anthem Statement D1 for pre/pro.

You could say I'm a "Paradigm/Anthem fanboy"...
post #30 of 178
K- another Anthem fanboy here ... < salut Levesque! >

Had a pair of Paradigm Monitor 7's, cc350 and 2 pair of ADP350's. (But now I'm onto B&W 602 S3's x4 , a pair of DS6's, and an LCR600 - center, 2 Def Tech PF15TL+ subs and a Paradigm Servo15) - on a full Anthem rig (Statement D1 and 3 MCA amp sets)

May go back to Paradigm Reference/Signature or B&W 700 lineup in the next couple of years.
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