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post #31 of 4539
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Originally posted by mangopony
And your recommendation on a HD machine..under $2,000

lol, there aren't any DLP's. The Panasonic 700 LCD looks to be pretty good. But they come with some issues. You'll hv to research it.
post #32 of 4539
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Originally posted by duffybarracuda
i have no answers in this thread only questions
i m looking for something quiet dlp thing too. I ve a 7x5 feet screen, is the resolution of the h31 good enough for bigger pictures ?
I think it will be the H31 or the h57

If you can afford the price on the H57 I'd look at that one. It's not out yet but it looks like these two will be out any day now. I should be getting a H57 to review any day now. I haven't had an XGA machine in while and forgot how well they do on HDTV. It's defintely worth the extra doe.
post #33 of 4539
Thank you, Tom. By the way, it is just a
matter of opinion on which is better, DLP or LCD, yes? I know in rear protection they are a toss up. The Panny 700 and Sanyo 3 are both around $2000. Both are HD resolution, I believe.
post #34 of 4539
Oh, and I think the Infocus 5000 is HD. And around $2000..little less. Will check it out.
post #35 of 4539
How would you compare the H31 to the Infocus 4805? Thanks.
post #36 of 4539
is this h31 available? if not when? whats the msrp? where can i get one?
post #37 of 4539
how about: H31 vs. NEC HT510 overall image considering a 92" diag screen viewed 132" away. I don't want to see pixels, but I want nice colors...
which one, which one?
post #38 of 4539
Four of these, each doing a quarter of the screen, 1706 x 960 resoloution
That's still pretty darn good resolution for $6K and super bright!. The globe replacement cost would be high.....hey but...the benifits are there.

I know they do this at exibitions etc.........does anyone here have a set up with a similar configuration. Budget HD!
post #39 of 4539
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Originally posted by Jim McC
How would you compare the H31 to the Infocus 4805? Thanks.

These are all pretty cool projectors and they have their trade offs. The H31 is similar to the 4805 in that it has the dark chip 2.

"Here's one thing I've figured out relating to these two projectors. 4805 owners/reviewers have said (me included) the screen door seems more noticeable and some added there's video noise. It's not video noise they're seeing it's pixel noise or the dots at the corners of the pixel. They see this more because the box around the pixel on the new chip is pronounced and dark. This does have an advantage in that the image has better blacks and takes on a sharper look. But it does come with it's trade offs on the clarity of the dots. Use the two times the screen rule on these projectors. Colors tend to look more natural on the Optoma line. THe H31 has a ton or new aspect features which are great.

The 510 has this same type chip but the pixels are half the size so it looks smoother, but it comes with it's disadvantage in colors and contrast. The 510 uses a prism design which is why it has less contrast. You should understand the 1200.1 is still a decent contrast. The picture does look clear, there's no haze effect that earlier models had. There's tradoffs across the board. Colors, blacks, Res, You'll hv to balance out what you like best.

Colors are better on the H31 and 4805, screen door is less bothersome on the H30, blacks and contrast are allot better looking on the H31. Lots of trade offs. lol

In the end anybody starting out would be happy with any of these machines compared to the old hazy LT150 days.
post #40 of 4539
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Originally posted by Bertola
how about: H31 vs. NEC HT510 overall image considering a 92" diag screen viewed 132" away. I don't want to see pixels, but I want nice colors...
which one, which one?

Hi guy, like they've handed down over time.

"you can't have your cake and eat it to."

There's trade offs. If you want to view up close the higher res. If you want the best colors the RGB/RGB wheel. Which are you going to get?
post #41 of 4539
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Originally posted by mangopony
Thank you, Tom. By the way, it is just a
matter of opinion on which is better, DLP or LCD, yes? I know in rear protection they are a toss up. The Panny 700 and Sanyo 3 are both around $2000. Both are HD resolution, I believe.

LCD could be your solution for the best HDTV. They have some issues that bother people, vertical banding, more chance of dead pixels happening, panel degradation possibilities. Lots of new users still like them though. Research them some more.
post #42 of 4539
Here's the $64K question: Can you access the service menu the same way as the H30?
post #43 of 4539
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Yes, same way.
post #44 of 4539
Tom,

Do you know what the throw ratio range is? I can't find info anywhere, including pjcentral and Optoma's site.

Thanks
post #45 of 4539
Hey Tom-

Is the HT1100 still your fav?
post #46 of 4539
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The offset is average, about 8 or 10".

Ryan, I sold the HT1k along time ago and it's still the best 4.3 machine and same for the HT1100. I'm almost embarrassed to say it but my H77 is my favorite now.
post #47 of 4539
If you want colors AND resolution the NEC HT1100 is still on the market, and the Optoma H57 as well. You need to pay more bills if you want both. Which BTW is not as much as it used to be - as it is now a proud member of this forum (MSRP $3499 w/o anamorphic lens)

If the Optoma H31 is as good a DarkChip2 480P implementation as the Infocus SP4805 - many people realize that if you make a small compromise moving back 2' to fit the 2x viewing rule - that you cannot beat colors/contrast on DVD's and HDTV still looks better. Yes you have to compromise your screen size compared to a 720P display - but name a 60" plasma you can buy for $1500.


The DarkChip2 has physically less screen door than previous chips - but because of contrast improvements it is easier to see. A darker thinner line is easier to see than a lighter fuzzier line. Glad to see Tom has finally figured that out ;-)
post #48 of 4539
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I only took a look at the 4805 once when it first arrived.

Kras, I was wondering last night why so many said there's video noise with the 4805 (It's not video noise, it's pixel dot). After seeing the same thing with the H31 I compared SD with the H30.

H30 is super smooth with no video noise effect which is a good thing. It's one of the high points I saw when trying a SVGA machine out. Which I thought was risky being use to the HT1000. If users consider themselves SD sensitive the H30 would be a good choice.

But there's no denying the added blacks of the H31 is nice also. The added black/contrast mimics the HD2+. Both still great machines.

Is that right the HT1100 msrp went to $3.5 w/the lens? If so with a nice street price that would be a killer deal.
post #49 of 4539
Yep I think NEC figured they had to compete with the Infocus SP5700 which also just joined this forum.

Have a customer that needs fullscreen for photography so looking at the HT1100. I will add it to my comparison review.
post #50 of 4539
So my burning question is, what's the throw ratio and length? I know some troublesome people insist projector manufacturers should use long-throw lenses to force people to sit at a distance that someone *else* thinks is correct, but I like the option to be able to throw a big picture in a small room, or a smaller and brighter picture by mounting the projector closer to the screen.

~ Kiran
post #51 of 4539
Optoma probably wont sell any H31 models till the H30's are gone. My guess is March for mass distribution. It will debut at CES.
post #52 of 4539
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Wing wouldn't have sent me one if they weren't ready to go. He's in Taiwan this week, usually that happens when they're ready to release some new items. I hope that means the H57 will be ready also.

Kiran, throw is just like the H30. I have it now in the same ceiling mount I use for the H30. Only difference is the offset it's smaller I'm able to use it with no keystone now. Projectors straight w/no up tilt.
post #53 of 4539
i always liked the way people described the colors of the h30 but i didnt want to get it because of dvi which the 4805 has. i was all ready to get the 4805 this week but now i want the h31 but how soon will it come out, my money is burning a hole in my pocket, guiterman would you want to sell it? lol!!! just joking, is it possible to get it from over seas?
post #54 of 4539
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Just talked to the marketing director about it, he says soon. I can get a better idea on Monday when Wing comes back from Taiwan.
post #55 of 4539
thanks so much, gues i will hold off on the 4805 until monday, any idea on msrp price? or wether it will be cheaper than the current h30?
post #56 of 4539
Well, been doing lots of research for a very good, inexpensive fp. My conclusion: Infocus 4805 or Optoma H30. Can buy 4805 for around xxxx. I believe H30 will have to compete or come very close. Do you have a date for the H30? The new 5120 BenQ is also in this price range and seems to be very good as well. I just happen to find this is where the real value is in front projectors. I have compared with plus $2000 projectors but not side by side so to speak. From what I remember, playing same source material, just not a thousand dollars better. I can put that extra $1000 to a better use and still get a great picture. Also, things are moving fast in video (LCD, plasma, and FP). Just not the time to spend a whole lot of money for somewhat better performance (PQ).

Watch the pricing posts-MP
post #57 of 4539
mangopony, I think you mean the H31. The H30 has been around for awhile and has recently dropped in price as well. There isn't a set price on the H31, but the recent drop in 4805 price will likely dictate its list price.
post #58 of 4539
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Originally posted by guitarman
Kiran, throw is just like the H30. I have it now in the same ceiling mount I use for the H30. Only difference is the offset it's smaller I'm able to use it with no keystone now. Projectors straight w/no up tilt.

I assume that mean it projects an image the same size as the 16X9 image produced by the H30?

That would suck for me--I'd prefer it to project an image the same height as the H30 and somewhat wider (since I'm limited by height rather than width.)

~ Kiran
post #59 of 4539
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Originally posted by MikeSRC
Here's the $64K question

Young people today. It was the $64 question on a radio show called Take It Or Leave It

http://www.wordsmith.org/words/sixty..._question.html

"From a popular radio quiz show in the US in the 1940s which offered $64 as the largest prize. The first question had a prize of $1 and the prize total doubled with each successive question: $2, 4, 8, 16, 32, culminating in the $64 question. With inflation, this term is used in many variant forms, such as, "$64,000 question" and upwards."

http://www.andrewtobias.com/bkoldcolumns/990617.html

"Regarding your recent column, the expression, in a less munificent version -- 'that's the $64 question' -- predates the television quiz show. In the 1940s a radio quiz show 'Take It or Leave It' had a $64 question that worked its way into the language and meant that later the title of the TV quiz show would have some resonance. I remember watching the television show the night it premiered. When I told my parents about it, they were quite certain I was confused -- NO ONE could possibly give away the almost unimaginable sum $64,000." -- Tom Williams

And here's another article on the history of quiz shows.

http://www.pclaunch.com/~kayton/MAHi...ds/history.htm

~ Kiran
post #60 of 4539
You're right, I wasn't around for the 40's radio show, so I just remember the 50's TV show, the $64,000 Question.
See here:
http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/S/...64000quest.htm

Anyway, here's a new $64 question for Tom:

Although I know you prefer a 4:3 screen, if you had to choose a projector for 16:9, would it be the 510, H31, 4805 or would you say the H30 was still better in 16:9 mode?
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