Oppo DV971H Faroudja DCDi - Page 101

Hello Rick in Gresham!

Unfortunately, the sync problem is a VIDEO delay issue, so the analog outputs will not improve the situation.

Gary

Yes, audio sync issues come for free with the Faroudja processor. I'm not concerned though, because Panasonic, Samsung, Denon and others, have successfully addressed this issue, with the help of Genesis engineers. Oppo will hopefully be able to do the same.

Gary

Never fear, its quite simple. The Oppo's default configuration is very good. It is not necessary to calibrate the player, so calibrate the display. Obviously, you need to set the player's resolution to match the native resolution of your display before you calibrate.

However, you may have reason to calibrate the player:

If, for example, the display shares its DVI port with another device, you would first calibrate the display to the other DVI device, then calibrate the player to match that device.

Another example - if your display has a limited range or gradation of adjustment, you might want to tweak the player a bit before calibrating the display.

Gary

Hi guys, sorry if this was already asked. I don't see JPEG as a supported format for the Oppo, specifically. Have you played back a set of digi pics burned to a CD-R and if so, how's the performance? My Denon 2900 is REALLY slow in loading large files, and my Bravo is much faster. I'm looking to replace the Bravo with the Oppo, and wanted to see if anyone has feedback on this issue. Thanks

Set the Oppo to 720p and keep the rest of the settings at default. Then be sure to calibrate the DLP TV.

Gary

GSB, I hade the Denon 3910 with the same Faroudja processing and had zero lip sync problems. I hope you're right about OPPO being able to fix this.

I've noticed that the 1.5 zoom is lacking, but it looks to me like 2X and up are correct. But, in all honesty, I'd live with the slightly lacking stretch in favor of a stable image without all the aliasing and color tearing. I have faith that Oppo will eventually fix the issue, but for now I find it impossible to watch in its current state.

Cliff

The Oppo does support JPEG files burned to CD. and one better is that my Denon 2200 wouldn't read discs burned under Mac OSX (natively), but the Oppo works fine. I even tried just choosing burn to CD from iPhoto, and the Oppo read them fine... although it's not blazing fast. it's not terribly slow, but that just depends on your version of slow.

well i got my Oppo today and finally got to hook it up and play with it.

all i can say is wow. this is a awesome DVD player.

I left the setting to default:

Sharpness : Off
Truelife : On
CCS : Off

Using it on my Sony GWIII 50WE610 via DVI (also calibrated and tweaked via UMR's GWIII thread)

I was originally thinking i would use it in 480p mode and let my TV upconvert, but after running Digital Video Essentials, all the test patterns, etc looked best at 720p

I even tried 1080i, but 720p was best in every test pattern, especially the Snell & Wilcox "bouncing ball".

I then put in Shrek 2, and it was almost like watching a HD DVD, and i would go so far as to say it looks better than some HD movies on HBO.

Then i threw in Star Wars II ATOC, and it looked great, better than i remember on my old Denon 2200.

I'll be rediscovering my DVD collection again, and hitting the local Hollywood Video (which i haven't been to in over 6 month!)

Also i love the way the player is packaged. especially the nice cloth like cover the player comes wrapped in with Oppo printed on it....

Thanks to all of you , and all in all, it's the best $200 i've spent in a long time.

Mine comes tomorrow I can't wait to hook it up to my Toshiba DLP!

That's encouraging, kray. I have a GWIV and hope for similar results. I get mine tomorrow also, mplameri.
Not into multi-regional capability, PAL, etc. Just good overall film quality playing DVDs through HDMI.
Until now, I did not hold much promise for DCDi processing with Sony GWs.

Oh well, I'll see if anything else comes to mind. Since 60-80% of audio is from the centrer speaker, would there be any benefit in messing with the config setting for just that speaker? Just grasping at astraws I guess. I'm out of town a few days, so I'll try a few things this weekend.

Do you think OPPO will continue to work on this issue, or, has some posts have suggested, are they going to just say it's as good as it gets? Any idea?

Thanks again for the info here.

Rick

Got my 42WE655 today. Immediately hooked up the TV with the OPPO player. Updated with the latest firmware and wow! Superb color rendition of the Incredibles DVD at 720p via DVI to HDMI connection. I remember watching this same DVD using my LST-3510 and my 47" CRT Projection and it wasn't that defined and crisp. I haven't even calibrated the TV using DVE. I watched in PRO mode which is the subdued setting. This OPPO is a keeper! So does my new 42WE655.

Now to look for tweaks... hehehe

I'm afraid not. This is an intermittent problem. Fortunately it doesn't happen too often.


I'm sure they'll fix it eventually. But it may take some time.

Gary

The Denon threads are full of audio-sync complaints too. Particularly the older models (or firmware revisions). Denon seems to have fixed it in some of their later players. Since it is a Faroudja/Genesis issue, Oppo will have to consult with Genesis engineers to fix it. Other manufacturers have done it before, so I'm confident that Oppo will be able to do the same.

We just need to be patient.

Gary

I just got my Oppo player a couple days ago and am having some problems with my Sony KD34XS955 - Anybody experience similar problems or have any ideas?

The DVD player locks up randomly and sometimes dumps me to the Oppo screen with the stop icon in the upper right corner, no matter how many times I press the play button it doesn't respond, the only way I can get it to respond is to power-cycle the player. I've tried numerous DVDs from Tomb Raider to Finding Nemo to Ice Age... No luck, they all suffer the problem. I've tried both component and DVI-HDMI connections and the problem seems to be only on the DVI port. I should also mention that I've only really tested on 1080i as thats the native resolution of my television.

I've verified that the DVI-HDMI cable isn't faulty as I've used various other devices (my old Samsung SIR-T165 OTA ATSC receiver with DVI) to output to the TV and nothing seems to suffer from any display problems like the DVD player. I don't have a true DVI monitor to test this on, thus my need for the HDMI cable.

I've also noticed that the player fails to initially read the DVD approximately 33% of the time Sometimes I have to open and close the tray to get the DVD to be recognized.

Thanks in advance - I've also contacted Oppo to see what they have to say.

You tried both 540p and 1080i from oppo? Those are different 1080i modes. If that doesnt help sounds like faulty player since you mention dvds like finding nemo. Or maybe its between player and display if component works.. really hard to tell.

Thats what the mystery mode is... When I switch from 480p to the next one the screen goes black and doesn't display anything until I hit the DVI button on the remote to get it to 720p and then 1080i. So to answer your question, no 540p doesn't work because the Sony won't display it.

As for it being the cable, thats why I used my old ATSC tuner which I needed a DVI-HDMI cable and that worked without any problems... So thats what led me to believe it was the DVD player.

Thanks for the feedback.

untfan, that sounds like a faulty player. You could try pulling the power plug for a few minutes, or reflashing the latest firmware to see if that helps. If not, Oppo will happily repair it.

Gary

Untifan, I agree that it sounds like a faulty player. You might try to reload the firmware and see what happens before you send it back. Sometimes the firmware could get corrupted.
It might be worth a try.

Gary, thanks for the explanation on the calibration. I'll use the oppo defaults and calibrate the pj. The only other dvi device I may have will be some sat hd tivo. Don't have one right now but probably will when the theater is complete. If I get said tivo I will have to recalibrate the pj to it and then adjust the oppo, correct?

Jriihi, thanks for the tray response. After posting on this thread I saw something about the tray closing being removed in the brain dump thread. Good to know the unit isn't defective.

Uh Oh! I tried doing the firmware upgrade and now I have no display on the front panel. I went by Oppo's directions saying that it would take 1 to 2 minutes to do the upgrade. Well I waited 30 minutes and there was no indication that it finished. So I unplugged the machine for 30 mins and I get no display and I cant open the drawer either. Somehow I must have corrupted the firmware install *crap*. Is there a way to restore it to factory and them try again??

Thanks in advance!
Flan

Does anyoune knows what happened with this issue. I received my Oppo yesterday. Did the firmware update and start calibrating it.

Using the THX optimizer Audio Test, I found the out of synchronize problem (channel identification with the test tone always behind the visual aid on the screen). DVD discs were Star Wars II ATOC and Clone Wars animated serie.

Did Oppo digital give an official answer regarding this issue?

Does it has any relation with the audio lip-sync problem.



Thanks,

Equipment:
Display Sony LCD RPTV KF-50WE610 using DVI input
Player: Oppo 971H upconvert to 720p
REceiver: TX-DS797

Press setup then 1 2 3 4. A Macrovision on/off menu apears.

Thanks for jriihi at MT13x9 Yahoogroups Forum for the hack.

No idea about relation. I get this test tone thing in thx audio test but dont have any lip-sync issues during movies so far.

As related note i run macrovision off always.. but that doesnt affect DVI output

I too had a glitch when flashing with the latest formware.

After completion all I saw on the TV was "unsupported signal" or something like that. I re-flashed according to the instructions in the BLIND and after the second attempt...after it was finished the second time I shut the player off and then back on...then I had to use the DVI button on the remote to choose 720P and everything was OK.

I flashed it connected to a Samsung DLP through DVI.

Not sure if the second flash had anything to do with it..but it worked for me.

I too had a glitch when flashing with the latest formware.

After completion all I saw on the TV was "unsupported signal" or something like that. I re-flashed according to the instructions in the BLIND and after the second attempt...after it was finished the second time I shut the player off and then back on...then I had to use the DVI button on the remote to choose 720P and everything was OK.

I flashed it connected to a Samsung DLP through DVI.

Not sure if the second flash had anything to do with it..but it worked for me.

Sounds like you might be getting Macrovision and macroblocking mixed up?


Macrovision is a copy protection scheme that causes an analog recorder like a VCR to display/record a picture in which the light level varies from bright to dim over & over.

Macroblocking is a side-effect of Farjouda processing.

Yep, you are exactly right, I was confused in my haste. Two entirely different beasts. If only it were that simple, someone would have figured it out by now ;-) I still turned off macrovision, just because I could....

The problem is that I cant get the door to open! ARG! I cant reflash it.