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post #4441 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

to bdfox - I'd very much like a translator closer to the AVL/GSP market also please? Then it would be goodbye to WHNS for good

I would not advise you to hold your breath on that request
post #4442 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

Betting the DB8 is mucho better than the CM, but i'm be interested in the diff of WTVI's signal&quality?

to bdfox - I'd very much like a translator closer to the AVL/GSP market also please? Then it would be goodbye to WHNS for good

At one point, WCCB was supposedly considering a Crowders Mtn translator similar to WSOC, and I believe they received FCC approval to build if they choose to do so. And hopefully they will. But it won't be a strong 10 bar signal like WBTV, as it would not really be intended to serve the GSP area. While you can probably get 9.5 in Spartanburg, at my location in Mauldin, it takes a high gain UHF antenna and extreme low noise preamp to receive it at only 2 or 3 bars. But it works for me to be able to view WSOC. And 9.1 often comes in strong at night as well. Sometimes 18.1. To improve my reception, I replaced a CM777 preamp with the Ability HDTV low noise version and was able to hold onto 9.5 and also got a stronger signal on 13.1. But it would indeed be nice to be able to see WCCB on a more regular basis.
post #4443 of 5785
While we're requesting translators, let's throw a translator up for all the Charlotte stations up in Burlington, too!
post #4444 of 5785
Since FOXENG is always shamelessly promoting WGHP in the G'Boro thread..I thought I would too..

See our website for the behind the scenes production of Friday's Anderson Cooper Show where they gave away a car at Wesley Chapel Elementary School Wednesday..in HD with a little help from our technical staff.

http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/loc...ry=y&img=0&c=y

I'll mail a free FOX hat to the first person who correctly spots me in the pictures and emails me here..and.. if you want.. you can see the finished show tomorrow at 4pm on FOX Charlotte in High Definition.
post #4445 of 5785
Don't hold your breath waiting for me to watch anderson cooper either
post #4446 of 5785
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post


The DB8 is working well but I seem to be caught having to decide whether I want WUNG or WMYT... a 2-3° change in orientation is all it seems to take to flip-flop them between which one is solid or not. Everything else seems to work great no matter which way it's pointed... 3, 9, 18, 30, 36, 42 (yes, RF 11 off the UHF antenna), 46 & 64 are all solid (and look sooooo much better than the TWC feeds!)..

I've got the same problem as well. I'm considering turning the DB8 towards Hickory in order to pickup WHKY and I noticed that when I did this with my smaller homemade antenna I could pickup WUNE. That would eliminate the need for WUNG. The only issue I'd have with that would be the stations in E. CLT, namely WCCB, WSOC, WTVI, and WAXN. I'm not worried too much about 18 or 9, as they are nice strong stations here. WTVI will be an issue because the DB8 isn't a very good VHF antenna. WAXN I can live without. (I wish WSOC would do more with it.)

Since WTVI is VHF, it can be fixed with a simple dipole and it would be easy to add in. I'd like to get WNSC in Rock Hill but that really doesn't seem possible with this setup.

Since I don't know your location this might not work for you but here is some info on the DB8. The DB8 has a pretty nice lobe at +/- 45 degrees so you might be able to use this to your advantage. i.e. you will get good pickup in these directions. There is also a smaller lobe in the back. There is a major null at +/- 30 degrees and a lesser one at 90 degrees. You won't be able to pickup much in these directions. You could add a second antenna pointed in these NULL directions relative to the antenna, to avoid phase issues. (above assumes 0 degrees is front of antenna)

Without the right equipment combining, antennas is a bit of a trial and error exercise. If you don't mind doing a little "engineering", I would combine the antennas with old school twin lead wire, and then put a single balum off that to connect to coax. This way you avoid the 3db loss of using a coax splitter. Well.... theoretically. I haven't tried it in practice.
post #4447 of 5785
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

I've got the same problem as well. I'm considering turning the DB8 towards Hickory in order to pickup WHKY and I noticed that when I did this with my smaller homemade antenna I could pickup WUNE.

My outdoor Winegard is on a rotator. I rarely turn it to my due west b/c there's not much out there that I could receive. But I have noticed I 'always' get WUNE if I turn my antenna to the west. Obviously, the elevation of the WUNE tower in the mountains helps a lot!

And it just goes to show how important height really is. The tower for WHKY on Bakers Mtn is closer to me versus WUNE. Yet I've never been able to reliably see WHKY. I started to receive WHKY sometimes after dark when the upgrade took place this past Fall. But again, never reliably.

Not that anyone cares about my inability to see WHKY since I'm outside of the DMA....not to mention those inside the DMA that are having problems with WHKY. I wouldn't know for sure. But my suspicion is that if the WHKY tower had been a little higher, it might have made a big difference for some people. (I reliably see WMYT from Dallas on a 24/7 basis with my long range antenna).
post #4448 of 5785
Agreed. TVFool shows WUNE as being 70 miles from here, but my pretty simple homebuilt test antenna, with no reflector, loosely hanging off a bay window gutter, and pointed through trees, can pick it up as long as there isn't much wind blowing. I was surprised.

While playing around with this, I found an issue with the TV I'm using. It seems that Samsung TVs have some sort of bug in their OTA tuner where a marginal signal can lockup the TV. Only solution is to turn it off. Otherwise it sits there forever lost in some kind of loop while displaying "mode not supported" on the screen. I did a search and discovered that Samsung has a tons of complaints about it on lots of different models. I haven't seen where they really acknowledge that it's an issue.
post #4449 of 5785
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

I did a search and discovered that Samsung has a tons of complaints about it on lots of different models. I haven't seen where they really acknowledge that it's an issue.

Yea.. that's why I hate 'em..I change the S letters to D...
post #4450 of 5785
My samsung will display "mode not supported" occasionally also,but never locking up to require a hard reset. It's usually a iffy signal to start with.

WUNE's signal RULES !!!
post #4451 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

My samsung will display "mode not supported" occasionally also,but never locking up to require a hard reset. It's usually a iffy signal to start with.

WUNE's signal RULES !!!

Mine also says "mode not supported" when the signal is being stupid, but it always goes away. Sometimes, it grabs subchannels that are not there and says "mode not supported".
post #4452 of 5785
It seems to happen when there are a lot of multipath issues during windy days like what we had here over the past week. When it happens though, there is no recovery but to turn off the TV. It's a 23" Costco Samsung variant that seems to have a 3 year warranty on it, for some reason. I'm looking at setting up either a xmbc server or mythTV for DVR functions so I won't be using the tuner in it anyway when I'm done.

Otherwise it's a pretty good TV especially for their bottom of the line model.
post #4453 of 5785
WSOC is now running one stream of MH/H. WAXN continues to run two streams.
post #4454 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Theo1080 View Post

WSOC is now running one stream of MH/H. WAXN continues to run two streams.

Encryption?

WCCB-MH is encrypted..WCCB-WX is NOT..
post #4455 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

My samsung

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/spec...-affect/nK79s/
post #4456 of 5785
I saw a blurb about this a few weeks ago & checked it out. My plasma isn't in the affected models.

Theres been a bunch of bad caps in a lot of electronic devices in recent years.

If i had to purchase a tv again it would still be between a Samsung/Panasonic/LG.
post #4457 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

I saw a blurb about this a few weeks ago & checked it out.

Yes, but you needed to know this so you can now see it on akshun 9 in HD.
Want to discuss bad caps in Panasonic professional broadcast equipment?

I have a dead sammy with bad ps caps here in front of me..and another of the exact same model at work..which is NOT on the list.....
both used since 2007 to monitor WCCB-DT...
post #4458 of 5785
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Interesting article. One of my TVs is a Samsung 46 inch LED that I bought in 2010. I was glad to see the model I have was not on that list
post #4459 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

WUNE's signal RULES !!!

Indeed WUNE does rule! That tower in Linville, NC is 85 miles from my house (as the crow flies). Yet whenever I've turned my outdoor Winegard 'due west', I have consistently been able to get a solid picture on WUNE. I don't get any other station on a consistent basis that is so far away.

I just don't try to get WUNE (for the most part) because I already have WUNG Concord and WUNL Winston-Salem.
post #4460 of 5785
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

While we're requesting translators, let's throw a translator up for all the Charlotte stations up in Burlington, too!

Well, according to the slogan for WSOC, they say 'Covering the Carolinas'. So to be true to their word, why not put up a translator in Burlington for greater coverage
post #4461 of 5785
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post


I have a dead sammy with bad ps caps here in front of me..and another of the exact same model at work..which is NOT on the list.....

I fully expect my plasma to need ps caps even if it's not on the list,just hope it's later than sooner. Two years & counting!

I did have it serviced in it's first year for a color anomaly. A Korean guy comes to the house that didn't speak English very good, & my Korean really sux. It was an interesting visit
post #4462 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

Theres been a bunch of bad caps in a lot of electronic devices in recent years.

Tell me about it... I have two Soyo motherboards that died of swollen electrolytic caps, plus a Panasonic DVR that died of same but I revived with new caps. I have a Samsung A550 LCD that IS on the list but has given no trouble despite having over 15,000 hours on it. On top of that I have an Onkyo AVR well-known to have similar capacitor issues that I have added supplemental cooling (which dropped internal temp from 60°C to 34° C) and has shown no signs of trouble despite an estimated 12,000 hours of use (I'm sure it will die next month right after my three year extended warranty runs out). Then there's the two Samsung DVRs from TWC that died from failed power supply caps as well.

Sometimes I feel like I'm running an electrolytic capacitor hospice around here... keeping these things comfortable until their time runs out.
post #4463 of 5785
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

(I'm sure it will die next month right after my three year extended warranty runs out)..

Especially since you spoke publicly about it..
post #4464 of 5785
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

Especially since you spoke publicly about it..

When will I learn?...
post #4465 of 5785
I have both a Samsung and Panasonic plasma, and while both produce very nice pictures, I believe Panasonic has overall better build quality. And it sounds like Panny has made the most improvements in pic quality this year for the 2012 models. The 50ST50 is sounding very tempting right now, but I want to check it out soon and hope for an eventual price drop. I just wish Panasonic would provide OTA program info like Samsung does.
post #4466 of 5785
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Tell me about it... I have two Soyo motherboards that died of swollen electrolytic caps, plus a Panasonic DVR that died of same but I revived with new caps. I have a Samsung A550 LCD that IS on the list but has given no trouble despite having over 15,000 hours on it. On top of that I have an Onkyo AVR well-known to have similar capacitor issues that I have added supplemental cooling (which dropped internal temp from 60°C to 34° C) and has shown no signs of trouble despite an estimated 12,000 hours of use (I'm sure it will die next month right after my three year extended warranty runs out). Then there's the two Samsung DVRs from TWC that died from failed power supply caps as well.

Sometimes I feel like I'm running an electrolytic capacitor hospice around here... keeping these things comfortable until their time runs out.

Man,your as big a geek as me! Not sure i count how many hours i have on anything unless theres a hidden timer somewhere

The hospice remark is priceless
post #4467 of 5785
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

Man,your as big a geek as me! Not sure i count how many hours i have on anything unless theres a hidden timer somewhere

The hospice remark is priceless

Service menu on TVs.
post #4468 of 5785
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Originally Posted by evan237 View Post

Well, according to the slogan for WSOC, they say 'Covering the Carolinas'. So to be true to their word, why not put up a translator in Burlington for greater coverage

Or, just replace WXLV with a re-broadcast of WSOC...
post #4469 of 5785
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

On top of that I have an Onkyo AVR well-known to have similar capacitor issues that I have added supplemental cooling (which dropped internal temp from 60C to 34° C) and has shown no signs of trouble despite an estimated 12,000 hours of use (I'm sure it will die next month right after my three year extended warranty runs out). Then there's the two Samsung DVRs from TWC that died from failed power supply caps as well.

Yeah, stuff is so badly designed these days especially for heat. I spent part of yesterday grinding down and polishing 3 pre-1982 pennies to improve the cooling system in my laptop. It's running 20°C cooler now which means not having to listen to the fan. I've got an old GE TV which was manufactured in Ohio that I bought in 1984. It still works as well as the day I bought it. They don't make them like that now.
post #4470 of 5785
Where did you put the pennies?
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