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Good news to hear from Ted about the fact that WSOC 'does' stream 'live' full length newscasts on the web.

I have not personally looked for live news on the wsoctv.com web site, so I did not know myself one way or the other. But, I must agree with tylersc, that it is sometimes confusing. It seems, in the majority of cases, advertisements focus on weather apps and iphone/android capabilities. And we know streaming content 'versus' actually having 'live' content are not one and the same thing. There is a real difference there. For example, I guess it could be said that many stations may have small snippets of news clips on the web site. And that is not live news. But, again, from what Ted indicated.....WSOC does in fact have live news on their web site.

But even within live tv content, other distinctions can be made. For example, I know there is a new technology out there called Dyle Mobile TV. I have no experience with this. But, reportedly, it uses a piece of the broadcast spectrum (not an internet connection) to deliver live television content. Supposedly, it is free and does not require an internet connection to watch the live newscasts (or other television content). But it is only available in select markets/select stations 'and' on select smartfone or other devices.

In the Charlotte market, I believe I read that WBTV and WCNC are participants in Dyle Mobile TV. And while WSOC/WAXN are not directly affiliated with Dyle, apparently they also deliver live TV using a part of the broadcast spectrum. (Ted can correct me if I am wrong about this). It would be great to see this technology grow as it would help promote broadcast TV.

WSOC does broadcast Mobile DTV, but I don't know if they use the Dyle application. This topic is discussed in the Mobile DTV thread and in Minneapolis thread recently. Perhaps another argument for maintaining UHF DTV spectrum along with subchannels.

WCCB has been too and still does......

Dyle is done by market size and affiliation. COX is a member of Dyle...Decision are made by Dyle and the Networks...WSOC will be on Dyle when Dyle wants us to be. ABC is behind the Dyle roll out for its affilates.... WBTV and WCNC are on it because CBS and NBC wanted it ....ABC didn't. Please stop thinking that WSOC/WAXN is lazy, behind the times, doesn't embrace technology, etc...not every decision is made by WSOC! WSOC has had a Mobile HH stream since Nov 2010. But we dont get any credit for that...we have 3 streams on the air, more than anybody in town, We don't get credit for that. CBS and NBC decide they want Dyle in there Top 25 markets and ABC doesn't, and then all of a sudden WSOC is lazy and behind the times.....We can't please you.....no matter what we do here..its wrong!

There is a Roku private channel (only means it's not in the official channel store) that provides streaming access to all sorts of news including live streams of the BBC, Sky News, etc. They also have 100s of local stations in the USA.

The only one listed for Charlotte is WSOC. It's not live streaming, but instead, an encapsulated set of clips like today there is "John Ahrens Tuesday morning forecast, 2013-03-05 06:11:50" The format is 16:9 but it's only OK quality. Somewhat less than SD but enough to read the text on the screen. It seems to update with new clips from WSOC each day.

If you have a Roku, it's on the Nowhere TV channel.

Yep..Tho I guess Ted and I should take the non-participation attitude towards this forum that MOST of the other stations here in town do and leave it to those here who apparently know more about Tv than we do.

As to MH.. WCCB has been doing it since June 2011 and it still has no traction here, so we will be dropping ours this week and using the bandwidth for other purposes. I just don't see where a phone with a tuner block stuck on the butt end will be accepted. Especially when it is easily knocked off and hangs the phone.

There will also be 2 days of EPG later this week as well.

Bringing back the weather maybe?

- Trip

Thank You!! That's great news for us DVR owners who recently lost TVGOS.

Yea, but it doesn't help with my Sony DHG-HDD250..

Believe me I am not complaining about WSOC. Just asking questions about topics I may not be familiar with. Sometimes you guys take offense where none was intended. WSOC is a great station and I have always liked Channel 9.

You are welcome. We have confirmed 48 hours of EPG are being passed, and have upped the table rates so it should populate fairly quickly. At least on the DTVPal and the LG-LST-3510A Tuners. Be sure to let me know if it drops out.
Edited by bdfox18doe - 3/5/13 at 2:13pm

At 6:00PM (Tuesday) the program listings for Ch. 18.1 and 18.3 extended through 4:00PM Thursday on my CVM-7000PAL. Thanks again. Hopefully, some of the other locals will follow your lead and extend their EPG.

Whatever it is, it will be something sales can tie to revenue... Oh, yea..and something more than 6 people can see.

Sometimes I think WSOC is a cut above the others with its news but this morning they had a "Breaking News" to suggest that North Korea was getting ready to launch missiles at the USA. Threatening "Nuclear War". "We will keep you informed!!!!". LOL. It's not even on their website.

WBTV once again bumped the CBS primetime lineup last night in favor of basketball. WBTV then rebroadcast two of my Wednesday night favorites, "Criminal Minds" and "CSI" in the wee hours this morning. Sure was nice to have an OTA DVR to record those to watch at my convenience (maybe during the next primetime-substitute basketball game).

WBTV has always carried ACC basketball, and now as a Raycom owned station it does make sense they would often carry the Raycom sports broadcast. But sometimes they will move games over to WJZY/WMYT. And other times they will move the preempted CBS programming to 3.2. But here in Greenville, I receive 2 strong CBS signals from WSPA-7 locally, and WBTV from Clt which is also 100%. Also, here in GSP area, the ACC games are carried on 13-WLOS or WMYA-40.

I thought Feb sweeps ended last week.

Nope. Charlotte is a metered market..it's always sweeps.

Fox names VP and GM of WJZY and WMYT:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/category/charlotte

As reported also in Charlotte Observer on Saturday, new manager is coming from WGHP FOX-8 in Greensboro, a former FOX O&O station.

THANK GOD!!!

No, not really. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who had a bad word about her. She is a fine lady. I think the word would be "surprise" because she has worked her 37 years all at WGHP. She came out of college as a camera operator, worked her way through Operations, then news, then programming, then creative services, which was her last job before FOX tapped her for the GM's job 16 years ago. She must have made quite an impression on FOX to be handed this coming from another station that they don't own. I know they didn't want to leave NC, but FOX is into duoplies and that wasn't happening in Greensboro. I say surprised because everyone assumed she would stay at WGHP until she retired. She isn't quite ready for that, but she has things set up that would tend to make you think that.. She knows the business. She plays to win. Her own son, who also works at the station didn't find about this until it was announced to the station last week. What FOX has in mind, she ain't saying and that is typical Karen. She won't tell us and we're family!

We are going to miss her dearly and I just wish her the best and as long as she isn't competing against me, all the luck in the world!

Speculation as reported in the Clt Observer is that Fox will launch news programing for WJZY and move broadcast operations to their Speed Channel facility in the University area. That facility is already set up for hi def broadcasting and is in the process of being upgraded to Fox Sports 1. Should be very interesting to see how things develop this summer, and whether WCCB will pick up the CW or go in a different direction. But apparently, as of now, WCCB will continue their own news broadcasting.

I hope the CW is maintained in Charlotte. There are some shows on there that I like. In fact I think Capital has done a nice job in bringing a lot of good programming to WJZY. I hope this isn't lost.

Yes they did a good job with those stations, and also had a good library of movies. I hope they will keep Antenna TV and SBN, but not really sure. And I know some folks like This TV, but Fox is starting its own Movies channel that they may carry instead.

Regarding CW, I thought the former UPN and WB networks had a better overall selection of programming. But perhaps they can improve going forward with CW. I think they are partially owned by CBS, but I could be mistaken.

The FCC greenlighted the Fox sale on Monday. That's was exceptionally quick.

I read this thing all the time and enjoy knowing what is going on in the world of O.T.A. broadcasting, and I do appreciate the responses that I get to the infrequent questions that I post.

But, I swear that sometimes it seems that all some of you do is watch TV. Sometimes it gets hilarious.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the folks over at WCCB. I'm sure they knew it was inevitable, but the legal blessing now confirms it.

Maybe, like in most human endeavors, the Pareto principle also applies to OTA TV.

Well, actually I do.. and get paid to do so.. but you very eloquently said what I have been thinking.