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post #5641 of 7653
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

You can call them and ask they put you on their "do not contact" list.

With the phone provider that I'm using, VoIP.ms, I can send annoying phone callers to a busy signal, reorder, phone disconnected, etc. with a couple of web clicks. That usually does the trick. It's one of the nice things about BYOD.
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

You really want to compare what you are paying to the internet only price.

I use TWC or internet only. They call me from time to time to encourage me to purchase TV and/or phone service from them, and as of now, they are unable to offer me a deal for TV in any combo that beats what I'm paying. (though it does mess up their script when the answer to the question "who is your TV provider now" is nobody)

Yes, you make a good point in saying the real cost to look at is what is being paid for the internet. BYOD is a one time cost; and I realize I could go to BB or elsewhere and buy equipment for my own house phone. Of course, TWC is real cute in trying to draw people in by bundling the services together and promoting that cost as a better value. And I must admit, I've been drawn in for all 3 services at 90 bucks a month. But I am adament in my resolve not to pay more than that since I don't watch that many premium channels; and I really could be quite comfortable without cable TV if necessary.....especially since I have a TiVo.
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Originally Posted by evan237 View Post

Yes, you make a good point in saying the real cost to look at is what is being paid for the internet. BYOD is a one time cost; and I realize I could go to BB or elsewhere and buy equipment for my own house phone. Of course, TWC is real cute in trying to draw people in by bundling the services together and promoting that cost as a better value. And I must admit, I've been drawn in for all 3 services at 90 bucks a month. But I am adament in my resolve not to pay more than that since I don't watch that many premium channels; and I really could be quite comfortable without cable TV if necessary.....especially since I have a TiVo.

In order of cost to companies: Video is first, Phone is second, and internet is dirt cheap at third. The cost of per Mb is nothing and is where everyone is making their money. I hate programing invoices every month and it takes up too much time calculating up all of the cost. Internet is simple and clear.
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Out of curiosity I decided to look at how TWC provides phone service so I looked up a few of their exchanges. In some places they are subcontracting other VoIP providers. But here in the Charlotte area I was surprised to learn they have a 5ESS switch. This is a first class telco quality switch and not a cheap system. I supposed they have it set to packet mode instead of circuit switching. They could only justify something like this if they either had a hell of a lot of customers, and/or they were charging a lot of money/customer.

(this is the kind of machine where downtown is in minutes/decade tongue.gif )
CLLI: CHRLNC33DS0
Served Companies: TIME WARNER COMMUNICATIONS AXS - NC - CHARLOTTE (7858)
Switch Type: WECO 5ESS (Digital)
LATA: Charlotte NC (422)
Exchanges Served: 44
Street Address: 1500 N Sharon Amity Rd
Exchanges: 704-206 704-210 704-235 704-237 704-246 704-248 704-264 704-290 704-323 704-345 704-353 704-369 704-406 704-416 704-453 704-461 704-464 704-478 704-496 704-526 704-550 704-654 704-671 704-684 704-697 704-707 704-710 704-731 704-761 704-815 704-831 704-919 704-941 704-943 704-963 704-970 704-973 803-207 803-412 803-431 803-578 828-409 980-233 980-487
Served Rate Centers: CHARLOTTE, SALISBURY, MOORESVL, DAVIDSON, MATTHEWS, MONROE, SHELBY, HARRISBURG, BELMONT, HUNTERSVL, LOWELL, ALBEMARLE, GASTONIA, INDIANTRAL, CONCORD, KINGS MT, STATESVL, KANNAPOLIS, ROCK HILL, FORT MILL, HICKORY

Edited by blackcat6 - 3/31/13 at 8:42am
post #5645 of 7653
The Washington Post reported this morning in its business section that WCCB would ,as of Sept.1,become a TCT affiliate. There were no details, but the Post wrote that normally such affiliates have first and second run religious programming, and a religious Spanish language service 24 hours a day..
post #5646 of 7653
TCT stations are generally owned-and-operated, like WRAY/30 in Raleigh or WLXI in Greensboro/Winston. Did Bahakel sell?

lulz

never mind

I see what you did there. Happy April 1st, at least I hope anyway biggrin.gif
post #5647 of 7653
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Originally Posted by AndThenScottSays View Post

never mind

I see what you did there. Happy April 1st, at least I hope anyway biggrin.gif

He-He..I wish the fish here at the beach were biting that well..tongue.gif
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I notice that RTV has become lowercase "retro" with a very tiny "TV" above the "o". WHKY must have given up on their unique schedule as they have been playing the national feed for some months now.
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Was not able to view live streaming newscasts on wsoctv.com this afternoon. Kept getting error message and video not found. Must be a tech prob somewhere. But the ads were playing, go figure. But wbtv streaming was working, although I can watch them OTA. Don't know what has caused interference with the WSOC-CR translator signal on RF30. Always got them at one or two bars in the afternoon, but now they are gone until later evening. And not a seasonal situation, as I got them good last summer. But hopefully the streaming newscasts will begin working again as I enjoy WSOC news programming, despite being just beyond the primary coverage area.
post #5650 of 7653
This may be relevant to the local Fox TV situation.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/news-corp-says-it-will-take-fox-off-air-if-courts-ok-aereo-1-.html
post #5651 of 7653
I support OTA antennas for the general public. But it is not right for a company such as Aereo to use an antenna to retransmit a broadcaster's signal for profit, and without consent. This is theft and copyright infringement. Cable and satellite cos. are required to pay retransmission fees to the broadcasters, so it should be no different in the case of Aereo. I hope Fox prevails in court and wins their case, as I enjoy free OTA antenna reception and want to continue to receive Fox, and soon with the move to WJZY. But Aereo is not in the Clt market yet; just preparing to enter Raleigh-Durham.
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TylerSC, your argument sounds logical. If I receive a broadcast signal, then provide a way of getting it to your TV, it sounds like theft. But let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Suppose,I buy an antenna, and mount it on your roof, but instead of selling it to you, I lease it to you for a monthly fee. Since you don't own it, it will be my responsibility to make sure the antenna keeps working for you and make repairs if needed. If you tire of the service, I'll come take it down and you can stop paying me. Am I stealing the signal from the OTA stations? Is Aereo doing anything different? Only the location of the antenna is different. Every customer has their own antenna. It's a concept that is different from that of a single antenna used by cable providers. Its very creative, but I don't think its a clear-cut issue. The lawyers will make a lot of money hashing this out.
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I feel as long as retransmission is involved, then the broadcasters have a right to impose a fee to the service providers. In accordance with the retransmission rules established by the FCC regarding cable and satellite. But I do support free OTA antenna reception for the average consumer. For their own personal use, with no retransmission involved for the neighbor down the street. When you turn it into a business, then the broadcasters have a right to be compensated for use of product. Otherwise theft of service.
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Plus there are other authorized ways to watch OTA TV on your laptop or mobile device. You can get a USB TV tuner for your computer, or use Mobile DTV or Dyle TV for your smart phone. No need for Aereo.
post #5655 of 7653
I use Remote Potato. Works very well.smile.gif
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Aereo sends down a highly compressed picture of lower quality. (realities of internet limits vs broadcaster bandwidth) So it's not really a substitute for an antenna if you can receive that way. What concerns me more is the commentary made by Rupert Murdoch (I'm reminded he will own two CLT stations now) who doesn't seem particularly interested in his TV stations beyond getting carriage fees. I see this as a bad sign that Capital's stations will have a whole lot less content than they do now.
post #5657 of 7653
FOX will probably develop news programming for WJZY, if typical of their stations in other markets. And they will likely add the Movies! subchannel. Don't know about Antenna TV and some of the others. And they may inherit Capitol's movies library which is good. Plus some syndicated shows. And of course FOX programming including Nascar and NFL. So I don't necessarily think they will be lacking content. I just hope this Aereo issue gets resolved so I can continue to receive WJZY/WMYT with my attic antenna.
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Live streaming newscasts is now working on wsoctv.com. Looking good. Because for some strange reason, I can no longer receive the 9.5 translator on RF30 until 8pm. And it is not the time change or leaves on trees, as this was not an issue last year. Some new kind of interference, as the main 9.1 on RF34 is also weaker now at night. I know local RF16 just a few miles away just increased power a few weeks ago, and RF9 and RF43 SCETV are both nearby and very strong. I think maybe the amp overloads and drowns out the weaker WSOC-CR translator which I was barely getting at 1 or 2 bars. But the amp is needed to get WCNC, WJZY, WMYT, and WLOS. Only WBTV will come in at 5 or 6 bars without the amp. And WYFF4, WSPA-7, WHNS-21, and SCETV 29 and 49 do not need an amp as well. So I think when RF16 increased power, that finally was enough to completely drown out RF30 during the day. Unless some other unknown interference. May investigate some filters or a variable attenuator. Currently using a Motorola BDA-S1 15db amp on one antenna, and a Kitztech 100 20db amp on another with the same results.
post #5659 of 7653
People are afraid of change, this is especially true of content providers (the networks). They have their income model locked down and fear anything that might disrupt it. When the VCR came out they tried to get it legislated out of existance. They soon depended on it and it's successor the DVD for a good portion of their income. When HDTV came they and the local stations had to spend a large amount of money to update their studios and equipment to support it, including the change from analog to digital. They hadn't spent a lot of money since the change from black and white to color. Now they are trying to recoup the money in a very short time frame. Their biggest weapon is the law suite. Lawyers from both sides sling mud and threaten all maner of things. Fox is just posturing when they threaten to go to cable only, the change would be beyond their mental capabilities.
post #5660 of 7653
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

People are afraid of change, this is especially true of content providers (the networks). They have their income model locked down and fear anything that might disrupt it. When the VCR came out they tried to get it legislated out of existance. They soon depended on it and it's successor the DVD for a good portion of their income. When HDTV came they and the local stations had to spend a large amount of money to update their studios and equipment to support it, including the change from analog to digital. They hadn't spent a lot of money since the change from black and white to color. Now they are trying to recoup the money in a very short time frame. Their biggest weapon is the law suite. Lawyers from both sides sling mud and threaten all maner of things. Fox is just posturing when they threaten to go to cable only, the change would be beyond their mental capabilities.


I would not sell NewsCorp short on any of this.
It is quite capable of an exit from television broadcasting.
That Fox is not really threatened by Aereo suggests to me that Fox is really more interested in narrowcasting than broadcasting right now..
If Fox exits broadcasting, re-packing will certainly be easier.
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Originally Posted by difuse View Post


That Fox is not really threatened by Aereo suggests to me that Fox is really more interested in narrowcasting than broadcasting right now..
If Fox exits broadcasting, re-packing will certainly be easier.

I can't see how Aereo would be desired except in a very small number of cases. Even broadcast cable would be a better deal than that since it at least will provide a reasonable picture.

I do agree with you on what Murdoch might do. He did after all shutdown the 168 year old "News of the World" paper in the UK after that phone hacking scandal came to light. He might very well go cable only. (bad move, the industry, IMO, isn't going that way)
Edited by blackcat6 - 4/11/13 at 5:40am
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

I can't see how Aereo would be desired except in a very small number of cases. Even broadcast cable would be a better deal than that since it at least will provide a reasonable picture.

I do agree with you on what Murdoch might do. He did after all shutdown the 168 year old "News of the World" paper in the UK after that phone hacking scandal came to light. He might very well go cable only. (bad move, the industry, IMO, isn't going that way)

What's important to me here is that we are not observing the usual Manhattan pickpockets, even though News Corp does employ a few of them.
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Does anyone know what is going on with WCCB 18.1, 18.2, 18.3, ETV 30.1, 30.2 30.3 and WAXN 64.1? All are blacked out here in Hickory. Channels 18.4-6 are on but are tiling terribly.

My antenna looks fine. I can get all of my other channels.


Thank you.

Linda
post #5664 of 7653
Could be water. Post again tomorrow.
post #5665 of 7653
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Originally Posted by difuse View Post

Could be water. Post again tomorrow.


Here or there?
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Check antenna and cable connections for rain/storm damage. Or a lightening strike could have zapped the antenna or fried the cable. May need new balun or run new RG6 coax cable. Make sure antenna is properly grounded. If you use a preamp, check and see if power supply is still working.
post #5667 of 7653
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Check antenna and cable connections for rain/storm damage. Or a lightening strike could have zapped the antenna or fried the cable. May need new balun or run new RG6 coax cable. Make sure antenna is properly grounded. If you use a preamp, check and see if power supply is still working.



If lightning had struck, would I be getting any channels at all? All the rest are working fine and the antenna look like it always does. No loose wires or anything. It didn't rain that much here yesterday and we didn't have a storm. We've had worse storms and it's worked great.
post #5668 of 7653
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Originally Posted by dixiedamsel View Post

Does anyone know what is going on with WCCB 18.1, 18.2, 18.3, ETV 30.1, 30.2 30.3 and WAXN 64.1? All are blacked out here in Hickory. Channels 18.4-6 are on but are tiling terribly.

My antenna looks fine. I can get all of my other channels.
I'm surprised you can reliably receive WNSC in Hickory. I'm getting 18 without any issues. I did have trouble with 64 yesterday, but I always do when there is rain and wind.
post #5669 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

I'm surprised you can reliably receive WNSC in Hickory. I'm getting 18 without any issues. I did have trouble with 64 yesterday, but I always do when there is rain and wind.


This morning after rescanning we have now got all of our channels back except channels 30.1-3 and channel 64.1 &5. I don't mind not having 64 because we can get that on channel 6(when it comes in) but we will miss WNSC because hubby watched Sherlock Holmes there and I had a couple shows I watched.

As long as we don't lose the 42's I'll be happy. Can't do without my international mysteries. lol


Thanks everyone. I just wanted to know if I was the only one having these problems.

Linda
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Originally Posted by dixiedamsel View Post

This morning after rescanning we have now got all of our channels back except channels 30.1-3 and channel 64.1 &5. I don't mind not having 64 because we can get that on channel 6(when it comes in) but we will miss WNSC because hubby watched Sherlock Holmes there and I had a couple shows I watched.

As long as we don't lose the 42's I'll be happy. Can't do without my international mysteries. lol


Thanks everyone. I just wanted to know if I was the only one having these problems.

Linda

Were you picking up WNSC reliably before 2 days ago?
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