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post #6031 of 7640
I wondered why FOX wasn't recording on my Hopper, Dish hasn't updated the affiliations yet. Hopefully the usual Wednesday update will fix it, unless they're on a holiday week off!
post #6032 of 7640
I think pic quality on 46.1 and 46.2 is very good since they dropped the other 2 subchannels. FOX must want good video quality for the main HD channel. And perhaps they must wait on current contracts with Antenna TV and This TV to expire before they add Movies. But I would prefer they keep Antenna TV and drop This TV if that is the choice. A few glitches tonight when they switch from network to local breaks, but otherwise looking good.
post #6033 of 7640
Andy Griffith Show coming to WCCB beginning with weekend marathon, according to Charlotte Observer. I guess WSOC/WAXN waived their long term rights to Mayberry. Hopefully they will mostly air the black and white versions, because the only color episodes that were good were the ones when Don Knotts returned. I watch Andy Griffith weekdays at 12:30 on WYFF-4 and Sat nights at 7pm and 7:30.
post #6034 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Andy Griffith Show coming to WCCB beginning with weekend marathon, according to Charlotte Observer. I guess WSOC/WAXN waived their long term rights to Mayberry. Hopefully they will mostly air the black and white versions, because the only color episodes that were good were the ones when Don Knotts returned. I watch Andy Griffith weekdays at 12:30 on WYFF-4 and Sat nights at 7pm and 7:30.

Yep...

http://charlottemediascene.blogspot.com/2013/07/andy-griffith-mini-marathon-on-wccb.html

Eric
post #6035 of 7640
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Originally Posted by OTA-DVR-guy View Post

What was said during WCCB's 4:00 PM announcement? I am at work, and can find nothing about it on their website or elsewhere on the internet.
WCCB's announcement yesterday, was the start of live streaming some of their programs on Syncbak. But that has already been out for awhile, and we already knew this. It was a "big" letdown.
post #6036 of 7640
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Originally Posted by jmccurrytech View Post

I wondered why FOX wasn't recording on my Hopper, Dish hasn't updated the affiliations yet. Hopefully the usual Wednesday update will fix it, unless they're on a holiday week off!

it was updated today
post #6037 of 7640
Dish got it half right so far. The PTAT feature will work now. However, the OTA channels in the Dish Guide are still incorrect and show the old affiliations. I've tried to get this corrected as of today but don't know when it will actually happen
post #6038 of 7640
From satelliteguys.us, they done some updating this morning. My PTAT workings tonight are correct, so are the network logos.

Uplink Comparison Range: 07/03/2013 12:31A - 07/03/2013 12:46A

Channel Renames:
6486(18) - WCCB (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Charlotte, NC-FOX) - Ciel-2 129W TP 07 Spotbeam 39 renamed to WJZY(46) (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Belmont, NC-CW) (A) (H)
6486(18) - WCCB (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Charlotte, NC-FOX) - Echostar16 61.5W TP 20 Spotbeam 56 renamed to WJZY(46) (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Belmont, NC-CW) (A) (H)
6487(46) - WJZY (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Belmont, NC-CW) - EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam A17 renamed to WCCB(18) (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Charlotte, NC-FOX) (A) (H)
6487(46) - WJZY (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Belmont, NC-CW) - Echostar16 61.5W TP 31 Spotbeam 07 renamed to WCCB(18) (Mkt:Charlotte, NC-Charlotte, NC-FOX) (A) (H)
post #6039 of 7640
TiVo had not yet updated the logos for FOX and CW changes, but listings are correct.
post #6040 of 7640
Dish Network is threatening to drop WBTV at the end of July.
post #6041 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Dish Network is threatening to drop WBTV at the end of July.

That's actually backwards of how it works.

Without a contractual agreement, DISH (and Directv) cannot legally re-transmit the TV station's signals. DISH is simply advising their customers that no such agreement is in place beyond the end of the month. It's not a threat.

It's all part of the song and dance of contract renewals. They eventually get worked out after everyone gets all worked up.
post #6042 of 7640
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

That's actually backwards of how it works.

Without a contractual agreement, DISH (and Directv) cannot legally re-transmit the TV station's signals. DISH is simply advising their customers that no such agreement is in place beyond the end of the month. It's not a threat.

It's all part of the song and dance of contract renewals. They eventually get worked out after everyone gets all worked up.
Yes Raycom is saying they are trying to renegotiate an agreement and advising all subscribers to contact Dish Network.
post #6043 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Dish Network is threatening to drop WBTV at the end of July.

I'll be able to watch using the OTA feed from Dish.
post #6044 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Yes Raycom is saying they are trying to renegotiate an agreement and advising all subscribers to contact Dish Network.

Raycom is the problem, not Dish. I guess we should call Dish and say please pay Raycom more money, but don't raise subscriber rates. Business as usual in America.
post #6045 of 7640
This is why there is such a trend towards cord cutting, because in the end, all they always kiss & makeup and the subscriber gets higher bills. When my Dish package exceeded $115/month, I was done. I sent back the receivers, got a couple of rokus and use a home built DVR with a OTA. I participate on another site where the ins and outs of this are discussed and I've noticed over the past year a very sharp uptick in people participating there who have given up on Dish, Direct, telephone & cable for pay TV packages.

Maybe not as much Raycom, but this industry in general is pricing themselves out of business. You have options now with TV. Broadband & Digital OTA have changed the game.

(OK sermon over. tongue.gif )
post #6046 of 7640
Yeah with u-verse gotta pay extra for hd (even the locals) so atm I just pick up around 20 decently with just a simple clothes hanger tongue.gif. Course with enough effort or buying a real one, I could probably pick up even more. Just amazing how simple it is.
post #6047 of 7640
TiVo has not yet updated the network logos reflecting the affiliate change with WCCB and WJZY. But the listings are correct.
post #6048 of 7640
Friday late afternoon/early evening WMYT was off the air (for me, anyway) for at least a couple hours. For a while prior to that I was getting the usual 100% signal strength, but with no PSIP since Wednesday. DVR recordings Thursday and Friday of 'Highway Patrol' and 'Sea Hunt' on ThisTV, 55.2, all had "Unknown Program" for titles and "no information" for program discription. Today PSIP is back. Hopefully, whatever the glitch was, things have settled down.

BTW, those two oldie B&W series sure seem to look sharper on 55.2 than when they were on 46.3, or way back when ThisTV was on 3.2 (until it was Bounced).
post #6049 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

TiVo has not yet updated the network logos reflecting the affiliate change with WCCB and WJZY. But the listings are correct.

I sent an e-mail to TiVo to alert them to these discrepancies. They also need to get the guide information for 'THIS' on 55.2
post #6050 of 7640
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Originally Posted by A J View Post

Friday late afternoon/early evening WMYT was off the air (for me, anyway) for at least a couple hours. For a while prior to that I was getting the usual 100% signal strength, but with no PSIP since Wednesday. DVR recordings Thursday and Friday of 'Highway Patrol' and 'Sea Hunt' on ThisTV, 55.2, all had "Unknown Program" for titles and "no information" for program discription. Today PSIP is back. Hopefully, whatever the glitch was, things have settled down.

BTW, those two oldie B&W series sure seem to look sharper on 55.2 than when they were on 46.3, or way back when ThisTV was on 3.2 (until it was Bounced).
The rainy/cloudy weather conditions may have caused the reception problem, as I lost WMYT as well. They are lower power and use a side mounted antenna, so their signal seems to be more vulnerable to weather conditions. But normally I get a 100% signal, and I am 75 miles from the Dallas tower. Also, as you noted, since moving ThisTV to 55.2, the pic quality is indeed much improved. Much sharper. And the video looks much better on 46.1 and 46.2 Antenna TV since they dropped the other 2 subchannels.
post #6051 of 7640
And I still can't help but wonder if eventually Antenna TV or ThisTV will be replaced by the FOX Movies! network as contracts expire. Because I thought their plan was to add this subchannel to all of their O&O stations. Just speculation here but just wondering about that.
post #6052 of 7640
Maybe. But they would seem to have enough bandwidth on WJzY now to carry it with antenna TV.


BTW, has anyone noticed WSOC reduction in power off their main tower? I've been having trouble getting it. It might be all this blasted moisture in the air, trees, everywhere. It seems a bit odd though because I get WCCB off the same antenna and it seems to be unaffected.
post #6053 of 7640
Warning: Ignore the sales pitch at Best Buy and HHG. And the lies about DirecTV is necessary for HD. Local antenna reception looks very good regarding pic quality on the entry level 1080p plasmas, and are the best bang for the buck on the market right now. The overprized LEDs look enticing in the stores on super bright torch mode with their paper thin bezels, but pic quality is often mediocre with flashlighting and vision fade from off angle viewing. Plus issues with motion blur. The 50 inch plasmas run around $639-$649, and all have a nice picture. LG PN6500, Samsung PN5300, and Panasonic S60/S64. And the step up 5500 model from Samsung is a great deal at $797. And the Panny ST60 for a bit more is worthy of consideration as well. But only LG and Samsung provide program info and more complete channel guide when used with an OTA antenna, as Panasonic does not. I recently sold a Samsung ES7100 LED and got the 51F5500 plasma instead. Much more pleased with the picture and overall performance. Don't let the sales people talk you into an expensive LED unless you absolutely know that is what you want. And the cheaper EH6000 and FW6030 LEDs from Samsung have a nicer picture with an antenna than the more expensive versions do, from what I have seen because of the direct backlighting rather than edge lit. And no forced microdimming. So buyer beware. But I would go with a plasma.
post #6054 of 7640
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Warning: Ignore the sales pitch at Best Buy and HHG. And the lies about DirecTV is necessary for HD. Local antenna reception looks very good regarding pic quality on the entry level 1080p plasmas, and are the best bang for the buck on the market right now. The overprized LEDs look enticing in the stores on super bright torch mode with their paper thin bezels, but pic quality is often mediocre with flashlighting and vision fade from off angle viewing. Plus issues with motion blur. The 50 inch plasmas run around $639-$649, and all have a nice picture. LG PN6500, Samsung PN5300, and Panasonic S60/S64. And the step up 5500 model from Samsung is a great deal at $797. And the Panny ST60 for a bit more is worthy of consideration as well. But only LG and Samsung provide program info and more complete channel guide when used with an OTA antenna, as Panasonic does not. I recently sold a Samsung ES7100 LED and got the 51F5500 plasma instead. Much more pleased with the picture and overall performance. Don't let the sales people talk you into an expensive LED unless you absolutely know that is what you want. And the cheaper EH6000 and FW6030 LEDs from Samsung have a nicer picture with an antenna than the more expensive versions do, from what I have seen because of the direct backlighting rather than edge lit. And no forced microdimming. So buyer beware. But I would go with a plasma.

But how about a good EPG?
post #6055 of 7640
The Samsung F5500 has a very good built in program guide, BUT is limited to data supplied by the broadcasters, which is mostly 24 hours. But I scrolled down the guide, and it goes for over a month. But just no data on most channels past 24 hours. And I believe LG may have a similar guide. And as of the Sunday sales paper, the Samsung 51F5300 is down to $599 which is great deal on a very nice basic TV. Very good ATSC tuner for OTA antenna reception. Very nice picture. Plus if you want a Smart TV, you are usually better off to buy a Roku or similar external box.
post #6056 of 7640
It just aggravates me when you go into Best Buy and a DirecTV rep is trying to sell you a TV. Like he really knows about the various TV models and manufacturers. But he is more intent on talking you into cancelling cable and signing up for satellite. And then when you inform him you have an antenna, he says that is not really real HD. Then I point out the Clearstreams on the shelf, and he says they don't really work and won't get HD. Ridiculous. The Clearstream antennas are probably the best antennas for sale at Best Buy. Just overpriced there.
post #6057 of 7640
Around 2000, I was in the market for a new TV. The guy at Best Buy convinced me to buy a non-HD TV with an analog tuner. I asked him about the digital transition. "That will NEVER happen" he said.
post #6058 of 7640

Guy at Best Buy tried to sell me a maintenance plan for my DVD player. Said the laser needed to be re-aligned every 10 hours of use!

post #6059 of 7640
post #6060 of 7640
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Originally Posted by Zaxcom View Post

Guy at Best Buy tried to sell me a maintenance
 plan for my DVD player. Said the laser needed to be re-aligned every 10 hours of use!

Tho I am sure you know it needs to be done every 25.7843 hours to optimize the life of the red laser.. Obviously he had no clue, or else he would have offered to sell you the Kraco DVD laser alignment disc..smile.gif
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