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post #6931 of 7653
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

There is an I Love Lucy classic Christmas episode on WBTV/CBS tonight, as well as the classic grape smashing episode. 8pm. They have been digitally remastered and colorized for the special holiday presentation.

I hope the are not shown in the terrible "crop" mode that the promos are in. That's unwatchable. Pillar bars, please!
post #6932 of 7653
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

I hope the are not shown in the terrible "crop" mode that the promos are in. That's unwatchable. Pillar bars, please!
Looks like it is 4x3 with the black bars on the sides.
post #6933 of 7653
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Looks like it is 4x3 with the black bars on the sides.

It was and it looked great.
post #6934 of 7653
Some sympathy is in order for the new(?) weatherman on WCCB. Someone put the Easter Bunny on the 7 day forecast instead of something Christmas. (got the day wrong too) LOL.
post #6935 of 7653
Do any of you guys and gals think one of the big networks would be interested in broadcasting an over the air program guide on a sub channel? Read an article by the Witchita Eagle, and KCTU-TV is broadcasting a guide for over the air channels in Witchita. http://www.kansas.com/2013/08/02/2921283/over-the-air-tv-viewers-will-get.html

Don't know the economics behind it, but I would think there would be a possibility for advertising revenue.
post #6936 of 7653
From the rehearsal video, it looks like WJZY did not really build a news studio. But rather they have anchors and reporters wandering around the newsroom and talking about the news. With a whole lot of flat panel screens in the background producing a bad glare. And supposedly they will be using ipad and cell phone video instead of typical field cameras. So far I do not like this approach or the looks of the newscast. But perhaps it will change and improve. Because I have seen FOX-5 in DC and Atlanta, and FOX-8 in Greensboro and they produce strong newscasts. I hope they will eventually produce a similar product in Charlotte. But from the looks of that preview, it makes even WCNC look stellar.
post #6937 of 7653
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Originally Posted by snippits75 View Post

Do any of you guys and gals think one of the big networks would be interested in broadcasting an over the air program guide on a sub channel? Read an article by the Witchita Eagle, and KCTU-TV is broadcasting a guide for over the air channels in Witchita. http://www.kansas.com/2013/08/02/2921283/over-the-air-tv-viewers-will-get.html

Don't know the economics behind it, but I would think there would be a possibility for advertising revenue.

Afraid not....that has already been tried..it was called Gemstar-TvGuide Plus. And CBS paid affiliates at one time to do this for ads.. it failed.

However, any of us could easily send EPG for all the locals like that, it's not that hard.The same PSIP generator that provides WCCB;s EPG also does it for 6 other stations.
So it already has a lot of the data needed.
Edited by bdfox18doe - 12/22/13 at 12:15pm
post #6938 of 7653
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Originally Posted by snippits75 View Post

Do any of you guys and gals think one of the big networks would be interested in broadcasting an over the air program guide on a sub channel? .......

IMO, the absentee owners of most of the local broadcast stations in Charlotte have little interest in doing more than what's absolutely necessary to keep their license. They want those cable TV subscription fees. Wichita is 1/2 the size of Charlotte yet they have more channels and more innovation in their local broadcast area. So no, I don't see it happening here.
post #6939 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

Some sympathy is in order for the new(?) weatherman on WCCB. Someone put the Easter Bunny on the 7 day forecast instead of something Christmas. (got the day wrong too) LOL.

Oy Vey...tongue.gif
post #6940 of 7653
Here we go again. Another carriage dispute. If Charter drops WSOC-TV Channel 9 from some of its systems, an outside antenna may be needed to receive ABC and local news programming. Fortunately, WSOC has translator signals on Crowder's Mtn. and Burke County to serve the affected areas. As well as the main Charlotte transmitter. But perhaps it will be resolved at the last minute.
post #6941 of 7653
It's a big dog & pony show.

Regardless of of the script they use, in the end, they will kiss and make up, sign another secret agreement, raise the rates again, and laugh all the way to the bank. As long as people keep paying for subscription TV with its mandated must carry local channels on all packages, they absolutely don't care.
post #6942 of 7653
Is it not possible for the sales staff at TV stations to get out and "pound the pavement" a little harder to make up for revenue shortfalls instead of balancing station budgets on the backs of pay-tv customers? I really don't understand why the loss of eyeballs - i.e., when a station goes dark on a pay-tv service due to these seemingly endless carriage disputes - is not deterrent enough for stations to keep their stations from going dark on pay-tv. Sorry guys (station employees on this board), I have to side with the pay-tv folks on these disputes, because the pay-tv customer ultimately is the loser - I know, because my DISH bill is going up $5 in February and I lay a good chunk of blame on local TV stations - and the NAB. Oh, let me go ahead and throw in the toothless FCC for allowing group owners like Sinclair, Gannett, Raycom, and others to side-step ownership limits with their little shell companies.

Merry Christmas smile.gif

Eric
post #6943 of 7653
I suspect the local TV employees, at least the ones making it all work, are not complaining about being paid too much. IMO, the vast majority of that subscription money is going to the executives of a handful of media companies, professionals sports team owners, outrageous salaries being paid to name brand athletes, and any "TV personality" willing to say anything in support of the status quo.

The real owners of WSOC for example, the Cox/Kennedy family in Atlanta are some of the richest people in the USA/World. (yes world) Those fees helped make that possible.

My recommendation, cut the cord and stop paying into this cesspool. I posted here when I cut off Dish. Since then I haven't sent them $2534 which is money I can spend on some other form of entertainment . I've said before that it's unsustainable and IMO, TV in 10 years will be radically different than it is now, or it will be gone. I like OTA TV so I hope they figure this out, but I suspect they won't as long as they can keep raising fees.
Edited by blackcat6 - 12/25/13 at 2:43am
post #6944 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

It's a big dog & pony show.

Regardless of of the script they use, in the end, they will kiss and make up, sign another secret agreement, raise the rates again, and laugh all the way to the bank. As long as people keep paying for subscription TV with its mandated must carry local channels on all packages, they absolutely don't care.

There is a lot of speculation here on what goes behind the scenes and everyone assumes it is about Money $$, how do you know it is not about re-transmission agreements and or commercial insertion rights.?

BTW..Merry Christmas to all of you and your families....smile.gif
post #6945 of 7653
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Originally Posted by ybsane View Post

.....and everyone assumes it is about Money $$,
No assumptions. It's straight from the donkey's mouth.

Everytime they raise their rates they always say it's because it cost them more for the content. Every broadcast TV dispute that I've seen in the last couple of years has been very public about the money issue. i.e. Dish spat on Raycom because they said Raycom wanted 2X as much. Raycom spat on Dish for not wanting to pay them fairly. Then all of a sudden, they are back under the covers again doing who knows what, but that doesn't matter because Dish raised their rates again. (and they no longer let you opt out of the local channel packages which cost ~$7/month)
post #6946 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

No assumptions. It's straight from the donkey's mouth.

Everytime they raise their rates they always say it's because it cost them more for the content. Every broadcast TV dispute that I've seen in the last couple of years has been very public about the money issue. i.e. Dish spat on Raycom because they said Raycom wanted 2X as much. Raycom spat on Dish for not wanting to pay them fairly. Then all of a sudden, they are back under the covers again doing who knows what, but that doesn't matter because Dish raised their rates again. (and they no longer let you opt out of the local channel packages which cost ~$7/month)

Commercial business is about money/ No need for explanations.
A business either makes money, or loses money.
I believe we all know the thing to do when we object to a business's practices.
We don't do business with it.

I don't do business with dish or cable.
That is not a reflection on .the people that work in the dish and cable sectors.
Their job is to make money, mine, relative to them, is not to let them make it from me, unless I want their services.
post #6947 of 7653
For me there are a lot of pros and cons to having cable. To people in my generation who grew up with OTA free TV cable became a tough sell when the rates started going up. Back in the analog days WBTV had such a poor signal no matter what they did it came in like DX on the east side of Charlotte. Now it's a different story you can get a good signal on the Charlotte stations OTA.

On the other hand if you want to see something other than reality shows you'll want to escape the networks once in awhile for fare that's on TBS,TNT, AMC, History Channel, and TMC. They aren't quite as good as they used to be but still a welcome refuge at times (I left off USA network because I haven't watched anything there for years). On the other side of the coin they are usually packed heavily with commercials, with more and longer breaks than the OTA networks. Some can stretch a 2 hour movie to 3 hours!

As for HBO, Showtime and their offspring I haven't seen them in years and don't feel like I'm missing much. Most of the movies they put on are either really old or don't interest me. The only things I'd like to see as far as I know are "Homeland" and "The Newsroom" but I can wait for the DVD's or Netflix.

I have a bundled service of cable-internet-phone. I got a deal the first year but like clockwork they try to raise it every year. I have been able to negotiate a deal that makes us both happy every year. I call them before they call me and when they tell me what the increase is, I simply say that won't work for me.

In the end like everything else you decide what the service is worth to you. It's far from a necessity.
post #6948 of 7653
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

From the rehearsal video, it looks like WJZY did not really build a news studio. But rather they have anchors and reporters wandering around the newsroom and talking about the news. With a whole lot of flat panel screens in the background producing a bad glare. And supposedly they will be using ipad and cell phone video instead of typical field cameras. So far I do not like this approach or the looks of the newscast. But perhaps it will change and improve. Because I have seen FOX-5 in DC and Atlanta, and FOX-8 in Greensboro and they produce strong newscasts. I hope they will eventually produce a similar product in Charlotte. But from the looks of that preview, it makes even WCNC look stellar.

I think they're trying to be different but I don't know how it's going to work out. I saw the first internet newscast which was a bit like a staff introduction. The punching things up on a big touch screen behind them looked awkward and it didn't work for me. Shooting video on an iphone looks barely passable on the computer but is bound to look really bad on a big screen TV. You know things will change after a few bad beatings by the competition in the ratings.
post #6949 of 7653
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Originally Posted by W4DXL View Post

I think they're trying to be different but I don't know how it's going to work out. I saw the first internet newscast which was a bit like a staff introduction. The punching things up on a big touch screen behind them looked awkward and it didn't work for me. Shooting video on an iphone looks barely passable on the computer but is bound to look really bad on a big screen TV. You know things will change after a few bad beatings by the competition in the ratings.
Well hopefully things will eventually improve. But I guess they are trying a different type of approach. But I just prefer a strong standard newscast with the anchors sitting at a desk in the studio. Reporting real news, not this emphasis on social media. I would say take a look at FOX-5 in DC and FOX-8 in Greensboro and use that same successful format here. But of course, they didn't ask me.
post #6950 of 7653
In the analog days, WBTV had a bit of a snowy signal in Concord and the east side of Charlotte. You had to extend the rabbit ears all the way. Same with WCNC and WJZY, but you had to have a good double bow tie from RadioShack to get a clear picture on the east side. As all of their signals came from Dallas in Gaston County. On the other hand, WSOC and WCCB were so strong you often got ghost images. So basic analog cable was nice to remove these distortions and get a clear picture from analog standards. Now with digital, you get an overall superior picture in most parts of the Charlotte area, as well as outerlying areas from Winston-Salem to Greenville-Spartanburg. As long as you have the right type of antenna and amp.
post #6951 of 7653
When I was attending UNCC in the early 80s I lived in Hampshire Hills (E. Charlotte) and I had a small portable B&W TV with a single rabbit ear and a UHF loop. I didn't have time for much TV in those days as it was either school or work, but I do remember that in that part of town, I didn't have any issue in receiving 3, 9, 18, 36, & 58. On the other hand, I did live 1 semester on one of the top floors of Moore Hall, one of those 4 white residential highrises at UNCC, and reception up there was awful. It was nothing but ghosts. WSOC was particularly bad and unwatchable. Fortunately the TV stayed turned off and in the closet most of the time.

I seem to remember that in those days, Cablevision only had 11 channels that included WDCA & WSPA. If you paid extra, they would take the trap off your line where you could also get HBO, but it signed off at midnight or something like that. Beyond that there wasn't really any need for cable, in the city, I don't think I got cable until the 2nd 1/2 of the 80s after Cablevision and the much better Vision Cable had expanded their systems to include cable only channels beyond HBO

(That little B&W TV served me well for more than a decade. It was probably manufactured somewhere in the USA in the early 70s and still had a few vacuum tubes in it and nothing but a connection for a twin lead in the back & real mechanical tuners. Built like a tank as it survived dorm living, at least a dozen different moves, getting stored for months, etc. I don't remember what happened to it, but I wish I still had it now. though admittedly, it would be completely useless for OTA TV.)
post #6952 of 7653
Hmm. WCCB is running an ad for TWC for 100M Internet in Charlotte. Did TWC upgrade the system here or did WCCB run the wrong advert?
post #6953 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

Hmm. WCCB is running an ad for TWC for 100M Internet in Charlotte. Did TWC upgrade the system here or did WCCB run the wrong advert?

" available in select areas" This is an advertisement for TWC that covers the Eastern region
post #6954 of 7653
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Originally Posted by ybsane View Post

" available in select areas" This is an advertisement for TWC that covers the Eastern region
So I take it that means Charlotte hasn't been upgraded? Seems odd given this was one of the first places to get Signature Direct. Well no matter to me I guess. If all this fiber is that is being pulled in Huntersville has something to do with an alternative, I'll probably kiss TWC good by. TWC's service is good in Huntersville, but they charge too much. It depends upon the pricing.

(IMO, TWC should have laid fiber when they dug up all the streets around here to replace Adelphia's creaking old cable system.)
post #6955 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

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Originally Posted by ybsane View Post

" available in select areas" This is an advertisement for TWC that covers the Eastern region
So I take it that means Charlotte hasn't been upgraded? Seems odd given this was one of the first places to get Signature Direct. Well no matter to me I guess. If all this fiber is that is being pulled in Huntersville has something to do with an alternative, I'll probably kiss TWC good by. TWC's service is good in Huntersville, but they charge too much. It depends upon the pricing.

(IMO, TWC should have laid fiber when they dug up all the streets around here to replace Adelphia's creaking old cable system.)

Charlotte has Docsis 3.0 with channel bonding, so what is there to upgrade..?
post #6956 of 7653
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Originally Posted by ybsane View Post

Charlotte has Docsis 3.0 with channel bonding, so what is there to upgrade..?

Question is... Where is our upstream bonding or 8 downstream OR our 100Mbps, something must need to be addressed
post #6957 of 7653
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Originally Posted by ybsane View Post

Charlotte has Docsis 3.0 with channel bonding, so what is there to upgrade..?

Bless your heart. I don't know how I can make it any more clear. Did TWC in Charlotte start offering 100M internet in the city as advertised on WCCB? The question wasn't addressed specifically to you so if you don't know, that's OK, I don't mind.

( Sounds like no however. So TWC must be running the wrong advert in CLT.)
post #6958 of 7653
Looks like the Gannett takeover is now complete at WCNC, as the Gannett logo is now displayed at the end of the newscast. Hopefully with new mgmt. they will soon upgrade to HD presentation for the news. But no change in the graphics package yet.
post #6959 of 7653
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Originally Posted by blackcat6 View Post

I seem to remember that in those days, Cablevision only had 11 channels that included WDCA & WSPA. If you paid extra, they would take the trap off your line where you could also get HBO, but it signed off at midnight or something like that. Beyond that there wasn't really any need for cable, in the city, I don't think I got cable until the 2nd 1/2 of the 80s after Cablevision and the much better Vision Cable had expanded their systems to include cable only channels beyond HBO

I well remember WDCA on cable systems in the GSO market in the 1980's when I was in college. They were a regional superstation at the time. I guess WDCA was considered a seller to enhance the cable lineup of mostly local broadcast stations. And, wow, how great I thought it was to have HBO and CNN. Needless to say, the quality of programming was better in those days (at least for the times). Now days, (and as the programming content changed) I could care less about those channels....especially CNN.
post #6960 of 7653
Yeah. Now that I think about it, WCNC's predecessor WRET was sort of the same since it was found on many cable systems in the Carolinas. This was back when it was a really good independent UHF station. I remember it being on Cox Cable in the Conway/Myrtle Beach area in the 1970s. Turner was forced to give it up when he launched CNN and when WRET became a the NBC affiliate for CLT, all those cable systems dropped it.
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