ONKYO TX NR1000 owners thread...

Thanks for the mini review Joerod.

Are the owners of the equivilent Integra and Integra Research products allowed in this thread?

joerod

Does the NR1000 rec. has room correction built in. What type of audio calibration feature does this rec. have? How is the HDMI switching is the PQ the same as no switching. Thanks in advance for your response

Aloha Glen

Maybe I got a defective unit or am just an idiot but one of the frustrating things I've encountered is I cannot get the setup menu to show up on my tv. Is there a procedure that I missed?

I have a LG 3200A satellite tuner connected to the Onkyo via a DVI - HDMI cable and I have my Pioneer 59avi dvd player hooked up to the Onkyo via HDMI. I then have a HDMI - DVI cable going to my NEC 50XM4 plasma.

I'd be very interested to know how this unit stacks up against the Theta Casablanca ...

Thanks for that tip!!! I'm gonna have a big Superbowl party and will check this DSP option on Sundays games.

I will chime in to what joerod says. I'm an Integra dealer and we have an Integra DTR-10.5 (the equivalent of the TX-NR1000) for our demo theatre along with the DPS-10.5 DVD player...WOW. All of the possible tweaks will actually make your head spin if you want to use them.

Looks great, sounds great...superb. Using iLink for the audio and HDMI for the video...HDMI to the SIM2 projector as well. Plop in an SACD or DVD-Audio, it immediately recognizes the format, says "SACD" or "DVD-AUDIO" on the receiver display and you have the full spread, all digitally.

Had no problem with the OSD on the projector...pops up right away. Net-Tune works just fine, whether it is Internet Radio or from our in-house server with about 9000 songs. Interface for Net-Tune is kinda clunky and there are some enhancements that we have on our wish list, but it sounds terrific.

Just put a DTR-10.5 into a client's house with a SIM2 HDMI projector. Only problem was the darn Denon DVD2910 player and that green push. Firmware upgrade along with choosing the HDMI Y Pb Pr setting on the player fixed that.

Eric

Eric,

Have you heard any rumors regarding room correction for Onkyo/Integra/IR? This seems to be the one feature missing, now that HK and Marantz have joined Yamaha, Denon, Pio with some form of RC. For higher end stuff, both Lex and Meridian are offering there own (obviously more advanced) forms of RC as well. If its true that the Onkyo/Integra/IR have two of the new TI DSP's it would seem they would have plenty of power available. I am mainly interested in the RDC 7.1, and with the features and connectivity available some form of RC would seem to be the only thing missing.

Enigma,

I have heard rumors that there may be a Room Correction card introduced in the Spring along with the XM Radio card and something else, but nothing has been confirmed.

Eric

This receiver is ridiculously amazing. I wish it didn't cost over 4 beans, though. This sadly puts this monster way into fantasy land for me.

That's one of the reasons where I can see why a price like this is somewhat justified. Barring an outright paradigm shift in the industry, theoretically, you should be sent for a LOOOOONG time with this receiver. Perhaps indefinitely.

Ballpark, how much does a "card swap/upgrade" cost? Or is it yours by rights, since you already threw down over 4 large for the unit in the first place?

If it works out, it's certainly a very compelling model of how to run things.

The card prices vary wildly. The following prices were converted from official Jap Integra Research retail prices (USA street is a bit cheaper - Onkyo and Integra share modules):
Base Video Module - $300
HDMI Module - $500
D4 Module - $200 (Japan Only Probably)
Compnent BNC Module - $150
Component RCA Module - $100
Net Tune Module - $200
AMFM Module - $100
AES/EBU/Multi Channel Module - $150ish (I was quoted discounted - Included in Japan)
Double MultiChannel Input Module - $100 (Educated Guess - Not Available in Japan)

This is the current state of module rumours:
Sirius Radio Module (Likely)
XM Radio Module (Likely)
HDMI 1.1 Module (Almost Certain)
Room Correction Module (Rumour Only)
DAB Radio Module ("Under Consideration" - Likely Europe.Middle East Only)

Very impressive.

When you buy it, what does it come with already? (Which card?)

Or those things you list each seperate cards, and I'd have to make one choice out of all of those things, or can I swap and add numberous items like those, if I felt like it?

What's the difference between HDMi vs. HDMI 1.1?

Q,

The list above applies to the IR RDC-7.1.

Heres what is included as standard for each model:

RDC-7.1 - Analogue Audio, Digital Audio & I-Link Modules

DTR-10.5 - Analogue Audio, Digital Audio, AMFM & Base Video Modules

TX-NR1000 - Analogue Audio, Digital Audio, AMFM, I-Link, Net Tune, Double Multichannel Input, RCA Component, HDMI & Base Video Modules

What is worth noting is the Onkyo is NOT customisable like the other two, all slots are full. What will most likely be available to Onkyo users is an upgrade to the next revision. For example if the HDMI 1.1 modules is released then Onkyo will likely offer the NR1000 with it and probably offer an upgrade for existing users (Swap old HDMI 1.0 card for new 1.1 card).

As you can probably see the NR1000 is the value for money option but the DTR-10.5 can offer things like AES/EBU and BNC component connectors if the user requires them. There are also some small tweaks applies to the DTR-10.5.

What can go in what slot seems to be limited more by the firmware than hardware. At first I thought only similar cards can use the same slot (Eg. Only Component BNC or RCA in one of the slots) but in Japan the RDC-7.1 can take either AMFM or D4 module in same slots (These modules are not at all similar). Numerous items is so far not possible probably due to firmware restrictions.

I've been waiting for this receiver to come out, have consulted the manual, and am unclear on a few items so would like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind.
[list=1][*]It appears in the manual that it is possible to have all video inputs (composite, s-video, component & HDMI) converted and sent to the HDMI output. Is this correct?[*]I currently have a 7.1 setup and prefer when listing to SACD/DVD-A to eliminate the side L/R surrounds and send these outputs to my R/L rear surrounds. In essence, eliminate the rear surround channels and re-map the side-surround outputs to the rear speakers. Is this possible using an i.Link connection into the NR1000?[*]Since your using an i.Link connection, can you confirm that the NR1000 is properly applying bass management and time/distance compensation to SACD's? The time compensation in particular seems to be an over site for a lot of equipment.[/list=1]

Thanks in advance to anyone taking the time to respond.

Wow. You all are doing an excellent job in making me consider taking a very drastic and rash action. 0_0 I think I'd better ban myself from this thread pretty soon!

VERY impressed!

Now, since this card swapping idea is fairly new and all, have any of you heard, seen, or encountered any kind of bugs or issues yet at all with this unit?

Thanks for the quick response Joerod. Looking forward to your follow-up on the speaker mapping. May have to do some shopping this weekend

So the NR1000 is now available to be purchased. For sure.

Joe, since it's so early in the ballgame, have you seen or heard about any kind of bugs or glitches yet? This is some new technology in a lot of ways being dealt with here. Especially the ability to "swap cards."

joerod,

I'm not sure that it will do quite what Jeff is thinking of. I went through the options on my DTR-10.5 (and the manual) and yes, you have control over what speakers are active and not tailoring to each input mode, but I don't see anything about routing the sides to the rears. You can activate the Speaker A and B terminals independently, you can bi-amp, all sorts of things, but not route sides to rears. Can you tell me where you saw this in the manual?

One thing you might want to try when using DVD-Audio or SACD is DPLIIX DTS, Neo:6M or THX Ultra2 Music mode (which gets 7.1 from 5.1 sources) and turn off the sides. This will not produce the same result, but might prove "interesting."

As for bugs, I have found one that I have dealt with twice now. The receiver and my DPS-10.5 DVD player seem to lose contact over iLink and there is no audio. This has never happened while actually watching/listening to something. We popped in a DVD of CASABLANCA last night and there was just no audio from the get-go. The workaround is to turn both units off, then on. They do a "LINK-CHECK" on the displays, then the IEEE1394 lights up under AUDIO SIGNAL and it's fine.

Eric

Egcarter-
If I may chime in, that problem you are having certainly sounds like a firmware bug of some sort. It might be on the DPS-10.5 side of the fence.

Crunchyriff,

I have already reported this iLink issue to Onkyo USA...time will tell...

This DPS-10.5 has the 1.20 firmware, too.

Eric

As I recall from the manual, you can do separate setups for main room speakers A and B. You could set speakers B to sides=none and use that for DVD-A/SACD. I think. Maybe.