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post #61 of 832
Man - That looks awesome!

Did you think of how to do all of this on your own? Are you in the business?

You should be proud. Not just of the result, but of the process too.
post #62 of 832
Greg,

Do the lower panels go all the way to the floor or start at some base molding? Since they're an inch thick, was curious if you just by-passed the molding and went to the floor, used standard base molding or made something thicker. Thanks.

Bud
post #63 of 832
Excellent work!

Also curious as to your approach on the columns. How did you attach columns to wall? How did you attach fabric to columns? Do you have a row of staples hidden by your fabric panels?

Regards,
Bob
post #64 of 832
What type of bit do you use on the router?
It looks like a straight 45 degree cut.

Oh I also found 1/2" MDF, I was wondering why you did not glue two 1/2" MDF together to give you the 1" you were looking for?
MDF looked fairly strong to hold wrapped fabric.

ALso are you cuts about 1.5" wide?

Ozzie
post #65 of 832
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by rmurto
Excellent work!

Also curious as to your approach on the columns. How did you attach columns to wall? How did you attach fabric to columns? Do you have a row of staples hidden by your fabric panels?

Regards,
Bob

Here is a photo of one of the rear columns before the acoustics are installed:



The columns were build and coverd with fabric as free standing backless units and then attached to the wall with hidden cleats.

The fabric was stapled to the columns using 3/4 x 1 inch MDF strips. Too get two columns covered out of one piece of fabric i could not wrap the fabric around the back corner and staple it to the inside (fabric was not wide enough). So the fabric is stapled to the 3/4 x 1 MDF strip on the back edge. The wall frames hide this as the wall frames were installed after the columns.
post #66 of 832
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Originally posted by Oswald Pascual
What type of bit do you use on the router?
It looks like a straight 45 degree cut.

Oh I also found 1/2" MDF, I was wondering why you did not glue two 1/2" MDF together to give you the 1" you were looking for?
MDF looked fairly strong to hold wrapped fabric.

ALso are you cuts about 1.5" wide?

Ozzie

Yes the router bit is a straight 45 degree cut. It is a heavy duty Bosch bit. See the photo below:

I guess you could use all MDF, but I used the plywood for strength. There is only a 1/32 of an inch difference using plywood that is 15/36. There is only a buck or two differance between the MDF and plywood per sheet.

The frame rails were 2 inches wide. This allow enough space to make adjustment were needed. Like the last frame of each column that butts against the floor.
LL
post #67 of 832
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Originally posted by dave7
Man - That looks awesome!

Did you think of how to do all of this on your own? Are you in the business?

You should be proud. Not just of the result, but of the process too.

Thanks! I look at the room and sometimes cannot believe it is mine. Then I look at the stack of receipts.........

Not in the business. The whole room was done from information gained from this forum, several years at CES trade show and lots of planning.
post #68 of 832
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Originally posted by chinadog
Greg,

Do the lower panels go all the way to the floor or start at some base molding?

Bud

Right now the frames butt up too the carpet. See the photo:



Not sure yet if I will leave it for a clean uncluttered look or add some base molding. It depends on how it holds up to the vacuum. If I do add base molding it will be place on top of the frames and be 3 or 4 inches high with some kind of detail on the top edge.
post #69 of 832
Can you explain more detail on the attachment of the column to the wall? Are they removable? Do you have to take down panels to remove the columns?

Regards,
Bob
post #70 of 832
Greg,

Thanks for the picture of the corner detail. Your attention to detail is fantastic. I've just finished demo in room that will be HT and will be framing tomorrow.

Again, thanks for info and I post picks as my HT develops. Hope to have up and running in 3-4 weeks with completion being 2-3 months.
post #71 of 832
Greg
Skip the base moldings, I was considering base molding for my room, but I think your look is much cleaner looking without the base molding. I would not mess with perfection.

Ozzie
post #72 of 832
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Originally posted by rmurto
Can you explain more detail on the attachment of the column to the wall? Are they removable? Do you have to take down panels to remove the columns?

The hidden cleats are just 2 x4's that were cut to the width of the columns. I made three cleats for each column. Then the 2 x 4 cleats were screwed to the wall, almost at the top of the column, middle and almost at the bottom. Then the columns were lifted in to place and slipped over the cleats. Screws were then, very carefully as to not snag the fabric, used to attache the columns to the hidden cleats.

Too remove the columns i would most likely need to remove some frames to get to the screws, as they are hidden by the frames.

The attached photo shows one of the locations of a rear column. You can see the top cleat and the center cleat. The center cleat is part of the speaker support.
LL
post #73 of 832
Greg
How did you handle the area were the wall meets the door frame?
I was considering to just make a square door frame mold and wrapping it in GOM.

Ozzie
post #74 of 832
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Originally posted by Oswald Pascual
Greg
How did you handle the area were the wall meets the door frame?
I was considering to just make a square door frame mold and wrapping it in GOM.

Ozzie

When the door frame was mounted I ordered a extra wide frame so I could have it extend 1" past the drywall. So when the fabric frames were mounted there were flush with the edge of the door frame. See photo below. So for now I'am just going to leave it flush. In the future I might add some trim.
LL
post #75 of 832
I was wondering how to do the angled (beveled) edges. I don't have any wood working experience, so any advice would be appreciated.
post #76 of 832
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Originally posted by Lawrence_Chiu
I was wondering how to do the angled (beveled) edges. I don't have any wood working experience, so any advice would be appreciated.

The beveled is created by cutting a 45 degree angle on the out side edge of wood frames.
post #77 of 832
Greg,
Are you able to dim those low voltage lights?
post #78 of 832
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Originally posted by mich5
Greg,
Are you able to dim those low voltage lights?

Plan too using PCS LM4 control module.

When the GOM stuff is done, one or two more weekends, i will move on to the lighting (step lights, stage lights, screen wash lights, light tray lights, more recessed ceiling lights, rack work lights, etc...) lighting control and remote control stuff.

I will know more then, But it is suppose to work.
post #79 of 832
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Originally posted by GPowers
Plan too using PCS LM4 control module.

When the GOM stuff is done, one or two more weekends, i will move on to the lighting (step lights, stage lights, screen wash lights, light tray lights, more recessed ceiling lights, rack work lights, etc...) lighting control and remote control stuff.

I will know more then, But it is suppose to work.

How much does the PCS cost... ???
I was looking at the Lutron Grafik Eye, but it is pretty pricey.

Craig
post #80 of 832
I am using a very cheap X-10 to control my sconces and riser rope lights. It's programmed on to the pronto, and everything seems to happen fairly simple. That was in my old theater. IS this LM4 something that can be done after the fact that the room is finished(RF control)?
post #81 of 832
FYI. I just posted this in another thread, but think its applicable here...

I've been looking online today and got discouraged that many of these wall fabric systems I found had to be done by an installer. You couldn't just buy the system and do it yourself. I did check with Wallmate and they have a neat product called Fabri-lok, but no pricing info or where to buy it. I did send them an email and got a reply from someone named Lyle. I just responded to him about cost and estimating. When I hear something, I'll repost. meanwhile, here is a link to a PDF that shows different edge profiles and install techniques. Good info.

http://www.wallworks.com/images/fabrilok.pdf

Bud
post #82 of 832
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Originally posted by chinadog
FYI. I just posted this in another thread, but think its applicable here...

. meanwhile, here is a link to a PDF that shows different edge profiles and install techniques. Good info.

http://www.wallworks.com/images/fabrilok.pdf

Bud

The PDF is full of great ideas and samples. Wish I had access to something like this before I did my project. It presents more options and variety.
post #83 of 832
Wow that fabri-lok system looks awesome. Wish I had known about that before putting up all my ripped pine. Anyone have an idea on cost?
post #84 of 832
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Originally posted by suffolk112000
How much does the PCS cost... ???
I was looking at the Lutron Grafik Eye, but it is pretty pricey.

Craig

PCS LM4 is on the high end of x10 devices. It has four channels to control different circuits, a great software program to set it up and works well with a PC. I decided to continue to use X10 as I have a home automation system based on X10 and the JSD Stargate.

Cost of a PCS LM4 is less then a Lutron Grafik Eye. Although each unit has it own different features.
post #85 of 832
I have not seen the Fabric-Loc system, but I have seen the wall mate, and it was very pricey. Cutting up pine or MDF was way cheaper. Maybe this Fabric-Loc is cheaper, but I found no no price on there website, and I could not tell how it actually attaches to the wall. Is it some type of track system?

Ozzie
post #86 of 832
Greg,

I begin my HT next month, Erskine design, DIY construction. I like the wall panel look the best, I've seen this before and yours is fantastic, thank you for sharing. My neighbor works for USG and got a similar system at no-cost for his HT (turns out it IS who you know after all).

Question:

While we're waiting on the Wallworks price to come in, would it be difficult to install the same frames as yours but use a track system attached to the plywood? or perhaps a system on hangers that mounted them flush?

P.S. - I found your HT on the Stargate site not AVS. I can't wait for my Stargate with Homeseer configuration!
post #87 of 832
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Originally posted by LimoWreck
Greg,
Question:

While we're waiting on the Wallworks price to come in, would it be difficult to install the same frames as yours but use a track system attached to the plywood? or perhaps a system on hangers that mounted them flush?

P.S. - I found your HT on the Stargate site not AVS. I can't wait for my Stargate with Homeseer configuration!

For me is was a cost issue, Liquid Nail and brads were cheap. I suppose you could use some kink of "L" brackets to mount the frames. But you need to source it or fabricate one. Same with a track system.

I know you will enjoy your Stargate. The one problem I had was the wife acceptance factor.
post #88 of 832
Hey Greg

Awesome work!!!

You really make me want to redo my existing hometheater after seeing what you did.

I was wondering where you got all your fabric from (did you order it online or buy it locally) Is the stuff expensive.

Lastly you put in some kind of batting just wondering where you purchased it and what kind it is.


Thanks
Steven
post #89 of 832
Greg,

Where did you staple the fabric on your soffits so that they wouldn't be seen? Are the staples closest to the walls covered by your panels? What about the seams in the corners?

Thanks!!


Sam
post #90 of 832
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Originally posted by Sam Dotson
Greg,

Where did you staple the fabric on your soffits so that they wouldn’t be seen? Are the staples closest to the walls covered by your panels? What about the seams in the corners?

The seam along the wall was done using he hidden seam technique. The fabric then wraps around the bottom and the side and staples in side the light tray.

Greg
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