I prefer and mainly push the Image/Alphas because I think that's where they shine a bit more and provide value for people with cheap receivers and electronics.
I'd like to see them change the designs of more than a few models and am going to work towards that end, but all the people who dislike NHT and love B&W come in and go "wow, I *like* these!!!"
Well, I'd agree that they are more
similar than the NHT.
I'm just not enthralled with the idea of such expensive non-floorstanding speakers (not to mention the no lube job B&W gives you on the stand pricing). However, it wouldn't hurt to try them while I'm checking out the 804s; thanks for the suggestion.
Your welcome, but there are many good stands out there . There are a few expensive monitor/bookshelf speakers that I feel cost more than $1k and are worth it, the 805's some Totems and Revels come to mind.
One of the things that B&Ws do so well from a sales stand point is that they make other speakers seem more veiled or lacking in detail than they really are
Others would argue that it shows that some speakers ARE
, in fact, more veiled or lacking in detail, auditioning personally is sooo important.
Paper and treated paper will typically have a very small veil but will have a very controlled and well behaved sound. Poly is pretty similar, but will generally take on a slightly warmer tonal balance. Metals and ceramics are much more resolving, but then they can be more fatiguing if you don't use them properly. Kevlar, fiberglass and carbon have a very energetic top end and tend to resonate along with the music. They have good properties in being light, but they do add in some extra harmonics and tend to create that more forward female vocal that you like.
All these generalities contain grains of truth, but good designers can correct for them and/or incorporate these characteristics into great overall designs. Also, some slight modifications to the make-up of the driver can radicly change these characteristics or remove them altogether.
You can actually get a basic idea of what a speaker will sound like just based on the driver complement, assuming that accuracy is a goal of the designer and what strengths and weaknesses it's likely to have.
I fear too many people take these attitudes into an audition and come away with the results they expected due to preconceived biases.
PS, Bar, your electronics couldn't possibly be a weak spot!
While they are MUCH less likely to be a concern than the room or the speaker, they can occaisionally
be a weak point, as he has already discovered.