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post #31 of 515
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Originally posted by Kpt_Krunch
Well, if that's the case then Monster Cable has every right to sue!!!! If someone is selling Cable and calling it "MONSTER CABLE PRODUCT", then it is definitely infringing on the copyright law.

No, no, no. Slow down. The list is of cases filed by or against Monster Cable Products. Not people that have Monster in the name of their products who are saying Monster Cable Products....

Are you a manager? :)
post #32 of 515
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Originally posted by Kpt_Krunch
I'd like to see the case against Disney though. I call that post an outright lie without researching, as "Monsters" is not "Monster", it is pluralized and therefore unless Monster Cable has the term "Monster's Inc" copyrighted, that case, if indeed one has been filed, won't even get to court (again, I doubt this one, if it were real CNN would have been all over it!)
Its not a lie. Go to the USPTO web site and search, you will find page after page of even worse examples.
post #33 of 515
Wow! What a bunch of jags. I guess thats the last product I buy from them. Too bad, too, their speaker terminals are the best.
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post #35 of 515
Wonder if Noel will sue me for having a Monster C@(k?
post #36 of 515
Godspeed Chris (MonsterHTPC).......

HTPC Lawsuit
post #37 of 515
What's next? Maybe they're gonna sue the Loch Ness Monster for abusing their brand name... :D
post #38 of 515
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Originally posted by Nisei
What's next? Maybe they're gonna sue the Loch Ness Monster for abusing their brand name... :D
We'll only be able to call her "Nessy". :D
post #39 of 515
The MONSTER DUNK will no longer be allowed in NBA games ...
post #40 of 515
We should be sure to keep this thread at the top of the forum so that newcomers to this board will be sure to see it!
post #41 of 515
I would be more than happy to join the boycott. Besides being over-priced, I haven;t had good luck with their cables. I play bass guitar and I bought some speaker cables..... fairly expensive and one of them last about 2 months.

Man, we are so "sue crazy" in the US....
post #42 of 515
Well, I never intend to buy any Monster products again.

But my Wharfedale Opus 2 and Wharfedale Evolution 10 speakers have Monster wiring inside.

Since I love the Opus 2.......I will keep them:D

But no more Monster......in the future.
post #43 of 515
geez,what a waste of bandwidth. I'm sure Monster will now give up and go into Chapter 11 Reorganization, but only after apologizing to all those posters who had no intention to buy their product before and now REALLY will refuse to buy on principal.:rolleyes:
post #44 of 515
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Originally posted by SVonhof
No, no, no. Slow down. The list is of cases filed by or against Monster Cable Products. Not people that have Monster in the name of their products who are saying Monster Cable Products....

Are you a manager? :)

LOL - just mis-interpreted your post. Also, just playing a bit of devils advocate there. Sueing is the second most popular sport in the US (just barely behind football) so I will not boycott Monster just because they want to get in on the action. I will selectively buy their products as I always have in the past, on a 50 to 75% discount if and when there is such a discount to be had, and is something I am needing.

I recently bought 10AWG speaker wire from Blue Jeans, probably a fraction of the cost of Monster. I also bought FIVE DVI-D 15 foot cables for about $10 each not too long ago, and I'll bet they perform the same as a $150 Monster DVI-D cable.

But to boycott someone or something for suing - you'll end up boycotting the entire US of A eventually ;)
post #45 of 515
I used to buy Monster products. They aren't priced in the stratosphere and I always thought they were decent. No more. Those stories left me cold and I wrote to their senior staff today and told them so.

Not too many years ago they were a one man show with a dream. I remember buying my first fat Monster cables back around '81. What they are doing is dead wrong and IMO predatory against some small mom and pops who are doing nothing at all to harm them or their trademarks.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/cc...ss/10474257.htm

http://v6.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...2611825,00.html
post #46 of 515
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geez,what a waste of bandwidth. I'm sure Monster will now give up and go into Chapter 11 Reorganization, but only after apologizing to all those posters who had no intention to buy their product before and now REALLY will refuse to buy on principal.
I agree with you, in the sense that a boycott based on this company's principles alone isn't going to be very far reaching or effective. Better yet, is a movement to point out to potential customers that there are alternatives to Monster that offer better performance for same/less cost, as some posters in this thread have mentioned. That's the reason I don't plan on purchasing any Monster gear, although hearing about their corporate tactics is a bit disgusting too.:(
post #47 of 515
in the poll of which cables people were using , Monster was leading for quite some time....
post #48 of 515
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Originally posted by Jake Sm
in the poll of which cables people were using , Monster was leading for quite some time....
I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but I'll argue your point anyway ...

We shouldn't get fooled into thinking that popularity and quality (or bang-for-the-buck) are correlated. Bose probably leads a few categories and good California wines are outsold by bad California wines 10:1 (good=Napa+Sonoma, bad=the rest of the state, not terribly accurate but you get the point).

Perhaps the saddest point of your post is that the public has been fooled into spending more for cables than they need to. Not that expensive cables aren't worth it and I'm not arguing the quality of Monster's products (I leave those discussions to others), but buying a $150 DVI cable for a $200 DVD player is, well, moronic and any retailer that succeeds in selling John Q. Public such a cable for such an application is dancing with the devil.


Bill
post #49 of 515
Monster audio products are way overpriced, but I don't have a problem with them trying to protect their brand.

However, confusing "monster garage" with monster brand audio products is quite a stretch, so I agree with some of what you have to say.

The point at which the court is supposed to step in is when a name "creates confusion" in the mind of the consumer. For example, if you created "McDonald's" brand frozen hamburgers, people may confuse that with McDonald's Restaurants. However, you could create a plumbing supply business called McDonald's Plumbing Parts because it would be unlikely to be confused with McDonald's Restaurants.

I would be surprised if judges don't throw out 90% of monster's baseless lawsuits.
post #50 of 515
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in the poll of which cables people were using , Monster was leading for quite some time....
Which brings up a great question: was Monster leading these polls due to their outstanding price/performance ratios as compared to their competitors, or because their marketing and branding strategies successfully led many customers to believe this to be the case....;)
post #51 of 515
These stupid tactics are backfiring on them. Most members of this forum are 'influencer's' and will ensure that friends / family don't wind up with Monster products if we can help it.
Not that they'll go under or anything, it's just that any business that resorts to strong-arm tactics deserves at a minimum some feedback from the community that originally supported them.
post #52 of 515
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but buying a $150 DVI cable for a $200 DVD player is, well, moronic and any retailer that succeeds in selling John Q. Public such a cable for such an application is dancing with the devil.
agreed but is the problem also that the customer bought a $200 dvd with dvi out ?..the question some would pose would be "aren't you making that $200 dvd quality even worse by running it through lower quality cables? Many products purchased HEAVILY by members are regarded by many to be "overpriced" yet still valued for their quality, many more still spend countless sums on buying reviews through tons of advertising dollars, many more pocket tons of money for their multiple houses around the world while delivering "unsolicited" testimonials to thread readers the world over.....I am not trying to start flames rather, I am trying to quell them. The ISF guys, last I heard , still recommend monster component cables ...doesn't mean they're not pricey, but let's not diss the company that sets the pace and standard...for the record , I use mostly tributaries.. I also left a company that was STUFFING CABLE and WARRANTY down peoples throughts...
post #53 of 515
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Originally posted by wjg
I can see how this can cause confusion. I went into BB yesterday to buy some cables, got confused, and ended up buying the Chicago Bears !! Gotta love them lawyers !!

Bill
And I thought I was getting a vintage wrap for my wife at XMas and out of the package comes a big honking power strip! Is there no justice??
post #54 of 515
Time Warner Cable should sue Monster for using the term cable. I bought a set of Monster cables and couldn't get HBO.
post #55 of 515
Giving reference to a certain post mentioning BlueJeansCable, I just replaced all our front and center spkr H/T cables with Belden 5T00UP 10AWG bulk cable- the same stuff that you can find at BJC.

This upgrade (and yes, it was QUITE the upgrade), replaced my Monster XP spkr cables that I bought when I purchased our H/T sys four years ago. I was not expecting much, other than the grinning satisfaction that I was becoming one less "Monster Cable" user...

The results of my spkr cable swap were quite shocking. What I gained was a HUGE, deep and wide soundstage. Incredible. While listening to one of my favorite disks as a reference, even when switching from 5.1 stereo to 2.0 stereo, the audio effect was the same: I was immersed, enveloped in the music. It now sounded so "un-directional" in that the perception that I was right in the middle of a performance, rather than having two speakers blaring at me. (btw, I am pro musician, so I know exactly what this sounds like). Suffice it to say that my roughly $16 cable upgrade ( for 30' ) was the deal of the year for me.

I'm ordering another 70' of this stuff to do my surrounds, and wire up some new speaker cables for my old Marshall guitar amps. Monster Cable can go pound sand. (I am not using Monster Cable on my guitar amps anyway, but, well, you know...)

ALSO... we replaced the Monster ComponentVideo cable for our 4805 p/j with a 20' cable from BJC, using the Belden 7710A cables w/Canare connectors as the build materials. Again, I got better performance, and a much clearer picture (and, get this!), with a much LONGER cable. Even the inexpensive AR cable I had (to get me by while waiting for my BJC cable to arrive) gave up a better picture than the Monster Comp Cable did.

Oh, and BJC is a great place to do biz with. Fast shipping, and they sell quality products. I thought they deserved the plug for that. They earned it with me.

You just can't beat quality products made with top-shelf materials for a VERY reasonable price.

KOA- I like your way of thinking....
post #56 of 515
BJC??
post #57 of 515
BJC = Blue Jeans Cable
post #58 of 515
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Originally posted by wdrazek
BJC??
Bluejeanscable.com


peace
post #59 of 515
Deciding not to buy Monster cable because of this is fine, but it would be nice if you would take just a few mins to take this a step further. If you just don't buy it, Monster will not be aware of the reasons. Sales may drop a little, and they will have to infer that it is due to their lawsuit. In order for your boycott of Monster to be more effective, take a few minutes to write an email to their PR and legal counsel. That way they can see all the people that are against their lawsuit decision. Also CC their President. There is no email address linked for him here, but it looks like they follow the standard email addresses of First intitial Last name @domain, so his email address should be NLee@monstercable.com.

Edit: that is his email addy. A little digging brought up his email address (apparently he is a member of the Bay Area Porsche club :) )
post #60 of 515
Fast cars and Young women are among his hobbys!
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