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Should I trade SA8000 for SA8300HD on non-HD TV?  

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Usually I perform a search before asking such questions (and I have to get to work now), but I will be returning my failed SA8000 in a few hours to the cableco service center.

I have an older TV with only s-video input. If I asked for an SA8300HD as a replacement, would I be able set it to output HDTV stations via 480i on the S-video output? Or I suspect they may only be viewable via a component connection (which I do not have).

If not, I'll just wait for the SA8300HD until I get my widescreen HDTV later this year.

Thanks,

JCPZero
post #2 of 20
If i'm not mistaken the SA8300HD has all outputs active, so you can put it into "SD mode" and output everything through the S-Video jack or the composite outputs for that matter.

There's a thread or two on the HDTV Recorders forum regarding the SA8300HD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...?s=&forumid=42
post #3 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by jcpzero
I have an older TV with only s-video input. If I asked for an SA8300HD as a replacement, would I be able set it to output HDTV stations via 480i on the S-video output?
If running SARA, then yes.

No clue about Passport.
post #4 of 20
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Originally posted by dt_dc
If running SARA, then yes.

No clue about Passport.
If i'm not mistaken all the SA8300's in user's homes are SARA anyway.
post #5 of 20
If you use the 480i option, what type of picture do you get from the HD channels? Do you get a letterboxed picture, or is it full height with the ends cut off?
post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. I'll see if the cableco is willing to give me an SA8300HD in return for a failed SA8000.



JCPZero
post #7 of 20
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Originally posted by RandyWalters
If i'm not mistaken all the SA8300's in user's homes are SARA anyway.
There have been several posts from people running 8300HDs with Passport. No clue to their veracity.
post #8 of 20
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Originally posted by dt_dc
There have been several posts from people running 8300HDs with Passport. No clue to their veracity.
Ah, that's good to know. I've been keeping an eye out for any posts indicating Passport being used but all i've seen is SARA. My 8000's have Passport but nobody at my cable company knows what an 8300 is or if they'll ever have it. I want one :)
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
The cableco has happy to trade for an SA8300HD and a few extra $ per month for the basic HD programming. I'll see if I can get it up and working tonight via S-video. My cableco runs Sara.


JCPZero
post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
8000 to 8300HD comments on non-HD TV

The hard drive failed on my SA8000, and I traded it in for an 8300HD.

I set the 8300HD to operate in SD mode with 480i output via an s-video connection to a 32†4:3 CRT non-HD TV.

Analogue channel picture quality improved with the 8300HD.
Standard Digital picture quality slightly improved.

The significant improvement was viewing HD channels – confirmed by making a/b comparison between the network analogue feed and the same HD feed produced (in zoom mode)

By setting the 8300HD in SD mode, HD channels can be zoomed to eliminate the top/bottom black bars. The HD channels can also simply be viewed in normal mode where it looks like watching a widescreen movie in letterbox format. The ability to zoom and eliminate black bars is a good option for wife approval factor. The HD channels were closer to watching a DVD quality show, as opposed to the grainier analog version.

The only downside – and extra $6 a month between the box rental increase and basic HD programming package.


JCPZero
post #11 of 20
Not sure about your location ... but here the 8000 has an 80gig drive while the 8300HD (and 8000HD) have 160gig drives ... doubling your available recording space.
post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by dt_dc
Not sure about your location ... but here the 8000 has an 80gig drive while the 8300HD (and 8000HD) have 160gig drives ... doubling your available recording space.
That is my understanding as well.


JCPZero
post #13 of 20
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Originally posted by jcpzero
The hard drive failed on my SA8000, and I traded it in for an 8300HD.
Is your 8300HD running SARA or Passport software?
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
My SA8300HD should be running Sara - as that is what my SA8000 was. I have read that the passport software is being tested on the SA8300Ds on some cable systems and could be available for distribution in a few weeks. I think I read that info on the yahoo group explorer_8000.


JCPZero
post #15 of 20
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Originally posted by jcpzero
My SA8300HD should be running Sara - as that is what my SA8000 was. I have read that the passport software is being tested on the SA8300Ds on some cable systems and could be available for distribution in a few weeks. I think I read that info on the yahoo group explorer_8000.
Yeah if your 8000 was SARA the 8300 is too.

I think i just saw a message on the Yahoo group list this morning where a guy has Passport on his new 8300. I'm hoping my cable company gets these but so far the two people i've talked to don't know anything about it.
post #16 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by jcpzero
Usually I perform a search before asking such questions (and I have to get to work now), but I will be returning my failed SA8000 in a few hours to the cableco service center.

I have an older TV with only s-video input. If I asked for an SA8300HD as a replacement, would I be able set it to output HDTV stations via 480i on the S-video output? Or I suspect they may only be viewable via a component connection (which I do not have).

If not, I'll just wait for the SA8300HD until I get my widescreen HDTV later this year.

Thanks,

JCPZero
Why not get a 8300. Both flavors are out HD & SD.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by TMTBoomer
Why not get a 8300. Both flavors are out HD & SD.
I ended up with the 8300HD and am happy with the choice. I get a preview of the available HD content even if I only view it at 480i. The equivalent HD picture is much better than the analog station - so I see a benefit on my 32" CRT. Can't wait for more HD programming and a widescreen HD TV.


JCPZero
post #18 of 20
Could anyone tell me how i can tell the difference between SARA and Passport?? I just recently got an 8300HD and happen to love it. Feels quicker then my old boxs...
post #19 of 20
I'm new to digital cable (just received an 8300HD several weeks ago) and assume I have Passport because that is what the boot up screen says (Time Warner Charlotte, NC). Is SARA & Passport just the user interface software?

I had to reboot once because it wouldn't play any recordings (tv viewing was fine).

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Originally posted by BillJr106
Could anyone tell me how i can tell the difference between SARA and Passport?? I just recently got an 8300HD and happen to love it. Feels quicker then my old boxs...
post #20 of 20
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Originally posted by BillJr106
Could anyone tell me how i can tell the difference between SARA and Passport?? I just recently got an 8300HD and happen to love it. Feels quicker then my old boxs...
Easy way: Just unplug it and if the splash screen displays words like Pioneer Passport when it reboots then you're in luck - it's not SARA :D
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