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post #781 of 1062
The upgrade disc they are sending you is the DVD drive firmware, not the operating system firmware. You'll get either version 1314 or 1416, depending on which DVD drive version you have. Check the Toshiba Canada website for DIY download of 1314 & 1416.

http://209.167.114.38/support/ceg/downloads/index.asp

Actually, version 1417 and 1315 drive firmware has been released, but I have yet to find it available for download.

Version ZL12 is the latest system firmware release.
post #782 of 1062
My suspicion is that the Toshiba drive was also sold for PC under another manufacturer's name and/or model number. Obviously it used with a different firmware for PC ATAPI commands or the like. The 64 dollar question is what was the precise model that Toshiba used. If that exact model could be bought from say, LG or Samsung, then you could flash the Toshiba firmware on that drive and I would bet it would work perfectly including handling CDs.
post #783 of 1062
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Originally Posted by booji View Post

The upgrade disc they are sending you is the DVD drive firmware, not the operating system firmware.

while I agree with you that Toshiba's official policy is that the Xs32's system firmware is not upgradable -- and they've told me that when I've talked to cust serv -- there seems to be some ambiguity to whether the Xs32's system firmware is actually locked.

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version 1417 and 1315 drive firmware has been released, but I have yet to find it available for download.

I have a copy of 1315 and 1417. I got them from this thread: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312999
the download link is no longer working but it was when I originally found the thread.

but, they're from the Jp Toshiba site and I never tried one, even tho person(s) on that thread have had success using them.

so, if the system firmware is not upgradable then why (according to that thread) did Toshiba Jp offer a ZL ISO on their site!? one explanation I can think of is maybe it's only applicable to the Jp Xs32 being open to system firmware upgrades.

btw, the "ZL1500J_S.iso" referenced in his message was not in the archive I downloaded. I had given a thought of trying it just for laughs, back when my Xs32 was dead (hdd), but I emailed the author and he said he never downloaded that particular file.

I dont know the forum rules about attaching Firmwares but I assume its not allowable. unless a Mod says not to, I'll post some links here to the files as soon as I get them uploaded to a file hosting site.
post #784 of 1062
The Japan ZL15 system firmware will probably be refused by your US version RD-XS32. I suspect it will error out as "this version-up not compatible" or something like that.
post #785 of 1062
ok, here are the files.

as I said, I found these files at this thread:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312999

credit to Escape75 for finding and publicizing them.

once again, these are from the Japan Toshiba site, and altho they are reported to work with non-Jp machines, your experience might be otherwise. use at your own risk.

I've combined both Firmwares into one Zip. of course, any Xs32 machine will use only one. the correct one to use on your machine depends on which series of Firmware is already in use.

there's more info at the forum thread linked above.

download link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/42043992...P_ISO.zip.html

download link (mirror):
http://mihd.net/w90lq8
post #786 of 1062
I have been looking for a replacement DVD burner for my xs 32 and came accross a Toshiba d-r5 for sale at Sears for $50.00. Even though it has an analogue tuner, I bought a couple because of the RAM drive. I was hopeing that I could swap out the drive with the one in my xs 32. Has anyone tried this? Since they are both Toshiba, I thought it would be a better bet than the LG (which it probably is anyway), and it's almost the same price as odering one on-line.
post #787 of 1062
Bingolong, I read your thread and it caught my interest because I have also had a bad SD-W3002 drive. I like the unit and hate to toss it.

Have you tested the replacement LG H54 drive any more? This unit is a DVD (no hard drive) only and I burn DVD-RWs only.

Please let me know, if you have had good luck, I'll order one!

THANK YOU!
post #788 of 1062
I posted in the Tosh XS32 DVD Burner

Its sort of confusing with 3 threads for the Toshiba XS32 (Current Owners, Burner, and HDD Swap)

Frankly, I don't know where we should post for Burner issues.

Any thoughts? Should I put the post in this thread?

Thanks in advance,
Tom
post #789 of 1062
Err -14 is unable to finalize. It doesn't like the discs-- I see it occasionally on my XS32 with LG22 burner.

Try another disc, and/or a different brand. In my experience the XS32/LG H22 combination is a bit pickier than expected-- Sony media was about 40% ERR -14ing, Verbatim's been pretty good (maybe 20% ERR -14 on a pretty bad spindle).. I've had 2 ERR -14s on about 75 Taiyo Yuden. I think there is something about the drive replacement that makes it sometimes mess up at the very, very end of finalizing. (I.e., I don't think the discs are as bad as the combination shows)

I just "gave up" and bought 200 Premium 8x TYs dedicated for my XS32.
post #790 of 1062
I was thinking it might be nice to have a summary of ERR codes encountered by users here and what they eventually found the problem to be.

I'll put mine here:

ERR-14: DVD disc access error detected.
WHEN: Trying to burn.
CAUSE: Unknown, replaced DVD drive with LG GSA-H42N and problem is worse.
post #791 of 1062
I don't think it is the discs, I'm using Maxel 4x TY of which I bought 360 of them a couple of years ago when Office Depot clearanced the jewel cases. Historically, I produced maybe 1 coaster per 100 burns.

With the Toshiba drive, I produced 5 ERR-14's in a row - one finalized, but if you simply looked at the burned surface, you could tell there were terrible issues with the burn. With the GSA-H42N, I did 2 burns and got 2 ERR-14's.

I'm starting to think the LG 22 and 42 are NOT good replacement drives for the XS32, however, my particular XS32 may have other issues.
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Looking at what XS32's are bringing on eBay (less than $100), it makes sending the unit for repair is not practical.

Of course, I can still use the unit as a HDD time shifter and just forget about burning discs.
post #792 of 1062
I have been following this thread for awhile and based on what I had been reading, I ordered the LG/GSA-H54NK Ram drive and installed it.

At first it looked good-plays commercial DVDs fine, nice and quiet. It plays DVDs recorded on DVD-R disks fine, although very loud. (as though the unit is spinning faster)

However.....it will not record! It loads and indicates the DVD-r disk OK, but fails upon starting record with the message "recording failed. DVD disk might be dirty". I tried three different brands of disks, all of which work on my other (newer) Toshiba burner.

The DVD-Ram formatted OK, but same error message.

I'm stumped...any ideas? Maybe the electronics in the unit apart from the drive?)

This is model D-R2SU.

Thanks in advance....
post #793 of 1062
The LG H54 did not work for me.....but it is most likely the unit's electronics that are at fault. I plugged in the LG H54 and it determined the type of disk properly, but would not record. I plugged in another DVD -R drive, and it would also load, but not record.

Plugged in the original disk and it will record, but not read disks it created.

I am going to get rid of the unit-drive is probably OK? but I have two like-new remotes....probably to ebay with it and move along!
post #794 of 1062
There are so many types of DVD-RAMs out there AND combined with the finickyness of the XS32, what discs work?

I know there are 2 Version:

Version 1) "half" density: 2.58GB per side.
Version 2) full density: 4.7GB per side.

There are side variations for both versions:

Single sided, and
Double sided

And then there are the cartridge DVD-RAMS which leads to the first series of questions:

QUESTION 1: Do all burners accept non-cartridge RAMS?
QUESTION 2: Do all burners accept cartridge RAMS?

If No to either 1 or 2 then:

QUESTION 3: How do I tell if my burners requires cartridges? or cannot burn cartridges?

QUESTION 4: Can I remove the disc from the cartridge and use it in a no cartridges allowed burner?
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My XS32 manual says:

Version 2.0 or 2.1 which is 2x or 3x.
Sounds like cartridges are fine (Type 1 removable, Types 2/4 non-removable)
Sounds like you can remove the disc from the cartridge but this is frowned upon.
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Looking at my XS32 OE drive tray, it looks a lot different than my other DVD drives. There is clearly a place to put something about the size of a cartridge (I've never seen a RAM cartridge.) So maybe you just look at the tray to see if it takes cartridges?
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I also just got the LG GSA-H42N which is a RAM drive and while it is not here for me to inspect along side the XS32, I wonder if it can do cartridges and what read speeds?
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XS32 manual says: Panasonic LM-AD240U or AB120U and that is all. Is that still true today or can other 2.0 and 2.1 RAMs be used? (NOTE: My XS32 is acting haywire and is having bizarre burning problems with the OE and LG drives - like NOT burning properly on 4x maxells but burning properly on MCC Playos that info says Verbatim is the manu (?) so I'm wondering if RAMs might be a better way to get stuff off my HDD)
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Reading about RAM discs is really interesting and the fact that they behave like floppies or hard drives is really attractive - and especially when they can offload protected content from the HDD that -R and -RW cannot.
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Any particular suggestions to get good prices on some RAMs?
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And of course apologies for these pathetic noobee questions!

Regards,
Tom
post #795 of 1062
If I get a used XS-32 how can I tell if it has the black level bug? Also can it be fixed with a firmware update?
post #796 of 1062
There has never been conclusive proof that ANY XS32s are any different... Some say their unit doesn't exhibit the behavior but there are so many variables involved it seems much more likely that something in their setup is masking the black level issues than Toshiba fixed a few towards the very end of manufacturing.

I would assume any XS32 has the black level bug. But depending on your uses (and your other equipment) it may or may not be noticeable.
post #797 of 1062
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Originally Posted by jmscott42 View Post

There has never been conclusive proof that ANY XS32s are any different... Some say their unit doesn't exhibit the behavior but there are so many variables involved it seems much more likely that something in their setup is masking the black level issues than Toshiba fixed a few towards the very end of manufacturing.

I would assume any XS32 has the black level bug. But depending on your uses (and your other equipment) it may or may not be noticeable.

I made hundreds of DVD's with mine and gave some out to others. No one complained about the BLB. I asked a Toshiba tech in Vancoucer one and he never heard about it! Once in a while the dvd recording would stall at a certain point and you have to skip that small part to continue.

Since XS-32's are rare and I have a chance to get a refurbished one, I may do so. The guy only has one at about $175 with no refund or guarantees though.
post #798 of 1062
I picked up an older RD-XS32 used for $90 with only a non-DOA guarantee. It was not DOA. But sure enough, it has its problems:
  1. About half the time, on power-up it shows the "HDD cannot be authenticated" error. If I then format the hard drive, everything seems fine until I turn it off again, and then it will come back up with the same error. I have tried multiple reformats but after a while the HDD error comes back.
  2. At odd times, it turns itself on -- this even without any timer programs set.
  3. But if you leave it on and never turn it off, it seems to work fine.

So I have a few questions:

1. Does this sound like something a hard drive replacement would cure?

2. Does this sound like something a firmware update would help? It currently has ZL10 and 1314. (I have ZL11 and 1415 on another one of these; working great; but I don't have an upgrade disk . . . it was a refurb and it shipped with ZL11 and 1415.)

3. Should I just leave it on forever and leave well enough alone?
post #799 of 1062
I wouldn't leave it on forever as the dvd drive's laser is always on. I talked the guy into giving me a 90 day warranty so I guess I could buy one.
post #800 of 1062
Where do you get the info that the DVD drive's laser is always on? that sounds highly doubtful.. especially since it does turn off the DVD drive.. (I see that on my replaced drive since it's not put back together yet, and I see the access light.. it still seems to access it for a few mins even after I stop using the DVD player..then shuts it down)
post #801 of 1062
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Originally Posted by mattack View Post

Where do you get the info that the DVD drive's laser is always on? that sounds highly doubtful.. especially since it does turn off the DVD drive.. (I see that on my replaced drive since it's not put back together yet, and I see the access light.. it still seems to access it for a few mins even after I stop using the DVD player..then shuts it down)

That's part of the "standby" power load. The laser is held at a "bias" level so it can be ready to read/write quickly, as explained in this article (search for "bias") and the power level chart. Zero power level is unplugged. Either in this article or another I read, a laser mfgr explained how important the heat-sink design was for CD/DVD lasers since they were "always on" (generating some heat even in standby) and heat was the primary cause of laser diode failure over time.
post #802 of 1062
I think I'm going to try another replacement drive, a GSA-H10L.

I really didn't like the GSA-H42N which had trouble with yellow TYG02 Maxells
post #803 of 1062
Quote:
Originally Posted by wildwillie6 View Post

I picked up an older RD-XS32 used for $90 with only a non-DOA guarantee. It was not DOA. But sure enough, it has its problems:
  1. About half the time, on power-up it shows the "HDD cannot be authenticated" error. If I then format the hard drive, everything seems fine until I turn it off again, and then it will come back up with the same error. I have tried multiple reformats but after a while the HDD error comes back.
  2. At odd times, it turns itself on -- this even without any timer programs set.
  3. But if you leave it on and never turn it off, it seems to work fine.

So I have a few questions:

1. Does this sound like something a hard drive replacement would cure?

2. Does this sound like something a firmware update would help? It currently has ZL10 and 1314. (I have ZL11 and 1415 on another one of these; working great; but I don't have an upgrade disk . . . it was a refurb and it shipped with ZL11 and 1415.)

3. Should I just leave it on forever and leave well enough alone?

OK, if I rule out "leaving it on forever," how about the other two questions -- is a new hard drive likely to help, and is new firmware likely to help? (I realize there's no certainty in this . . . wasn't going for certainty when I bought a used unit for $90. )
post #804 of 1062
Firmware will not help. The firmware is only for the stock Toshiba DVD burner in the unit-- not the unit itself.

A hard drive replacement MIGHT help depending on what is causing the authentication errors. If you like to tinker and realise it might not fix it, it's worth a try.

I don't know if any of this would help the random turn ons-- the unit might have some other electrical fault causing the other problems entirely. Maybe a bad power supply?
post #805 of 1062
Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post

The upgrade disc they are sending you is the DVD drive firmware, not the operating system firmware. You'll get either version 1314 or 1416, depending on which DVD drive version you have. Check the Toshiba Canada website for DIY download of 1314 & 1416.

http://209.167.114.38/support/ceg/downloads/index.asp

Actually, version 1417 and 1315 drive firmware has been released, but I have yet to find it available for download.

Version ZL12 is the latest system firmware release.

Hi,

I solved my dvd burner problem by buying a used XS-32. I noticed the dvd software version is 1414. I downloaded the 1416 version but the link to create an ISO file on dvd is gone. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Do I have to right firmware update since there is a 1417 version?

What advantage is it to upgrade anyway?
post #806 of 1062
I saw some DVD-RW at Wal*Mart and was thinking I might buy some if they work in the RD-XS32. They are:

Vertatim 4x, and (5+1 for $7.77)
Maxell 2x made in Taiwan (yellow disc) (15 for $12.77)

Any experience?

Thanks in advance,
Tom
post #807 of 1062
4X will not work in a XS32 with the DVD burner it came with.

It MAY work with a replacement DVD burner. There were changes in how DVD-RWs worked from 2x up to 4x, and they need new firmware.
post #808 of 1062
I did the latest firmware for the stock burner - is that still no good for 4X dvd-rw?

Thanks
Tom
post #809 of 1062
Recently purchased a second RD-XS32 for the kids TV room and connected it to their SOVA 32" LCD TV using the Component input. I wanted to use the Toshiba remote to control the SOVA but it was not listed in the Brand code table in the installation manual. I tried some of the more popular codes listed in the table and on the second attempt found that code 0201 worked great ! It is one of the most popular codes as it is also used on Carver, Citizen, Goldstar, Marantz, MGA, Mitsubishi, MTC, Optonica, Philco, Proton, Radio Shack, Realistic, Sanyo, Sears, Sharp, Soundesign, Teknika, TMK, Vidtech, and Wards. This may also help you if you are trying to use a universal remote with the SOVA, try the codes for those listed above, especially the Proton or MGA that only use that code. Second choice would be the Citizen, Marantz, MTC, Soundesign and TMK that only use one other code.
post #810 of 1062
Has anybody seen the current recording quality setting change on them?

I could swear this has started happening in the past few months.. I can't figure out what's causing it.

e.g. I change the recording quality to my setting #4 (1.4, audio setting 1)
at some point later, the recording quality has changed to one of the others, e.g. 2.0, LPCM. I notice this usually when I'm using the disk space button to see how much space I have left.

This sure seems to have started lately.
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