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post #991 of 1062
My RD-XS34 has been displaying ER0000 message for many months. The service manual shown this is "unable to power on" error. I tried reset, hard reset, power off. Nothing. I open the box and power on. The hard drive sounds like it's working, but it still refused to power on. I disconnect the power connector to the internal DVD writer. It displayed error code ER7071. I finally disconnect the power cord to the box and reattached the internal DVD power connector. Finally reconnect the power cord to the box. Voila, it worked again. Good save.
post #992 of 1062
Are there any burners currently available at Newegg that will work in the XS32?
post #993 of 1062
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Are there any burners currently available at Newegg that will work in the XS32?

I have owned an xs 32 for about 4 years and the burner went out after about 2 years. I have accumulated a list of burners that people have tried with varied success. I tried the h22N and it would only read not write. Someone had luck with the h22L. Many people have luck with the LG-GSA-H10 but they are hard to find. You may have to expand your search beyond newegg.

Here is my list. You should search on them an see the comments.


LG-GSA-H10N DVD
LG 4167B
LG GSA-4163B
LG gsa H22 L not the N
GSAH10NI
LG H42.
LG H54N
post #994 of 1062
I used to have my XS32 hooked up to a SDtv and an older PS3. Now I have a Samsung LN52B630, the 'slimmer' PS3 and I'd like to record my gameplay to the XS32's HDD like I did with the standard tube tv. Trouble is, I can't figure out where my connection set up is going wrong.

I can get the XS32 TV guide screen to show up by connecting A/V cables from the front ports to the back of the Samsung, but when I minimize the TV Guide screen it's just a blue screen--the PS3 game doesn't show. However, I can hear the PS3 game over my HT set up (a Panasonic SC-BT300).

The Samsung has 4 HDMI ports; I have the PS3, Panasonic & the U-Verse HD receiver hooked to three of them. TV also has one set of A/V ports, Component, DVI, etc. But no S-Vid...which the XS32 does.

Since I can get audio with the Tosh menu on the screen I figure I'm halfway there, but can't figure out what I'm doing wrong w/ the video feed from the PS3; I can play and see content already recorded on the Toshiba, also. Before trying to connect the XS32 I always change the 'tuner' via the HDTV's "source" button on the remote (from one HDMI 1-4, or to 'component', 'A/V 1, 2' etc). Connecting the A/V cables that came with the PS3 to the XS32 (back) input ports still doesn't get the game showing thru the Toshiba. I've tried various input/output switches with the A/V cables I have and the TV's sources as well as the Line Input on the Tosh and I'm ready to pull my hair out Anyone have any ideas?
post #995 of 1062
I have a RD-XS32 with a LG-GSA-H10N installed and the original burner also. Still works good but I need to sell it. I am selling it for $125.00 plus $20.00 shipping. So if anyone needs one...... pm me.
post #996 of 1062
I am not sure where to post this.
I have an rd xs32 toshiba with an IR blaster. Does anybody know an IR code for the comcast dc50x dta which comcast gives for free. I tried searching but never saw a post that told what 3 digit ir code to use.
The dta is attached to comast, its output goes to rd xs32 the ir blaster goes to dta. rd xs32 goes to the tv.
post #997 of 1062
Has anyone ever checked the Panasonic recorders to see if they use the same burner as the KX50? I'm wondering if the ES10 might be the same since they were the same year. The circuit board might be different but that's an easy swap.
post #998 of 1062
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Has anyone ever checked the Panasonic recorders to see if they use the same burner as the KX50? I'm wondering if the ES10 might be the same since they were the same year. The circuit board might be different but that's an easy swap.

The Panasonic DMR-ES10 is a 2005 model. Attached below are five photos of Panasonic DVD Drive VXY1867 DVD found in a 2005 DMR-ES30V. Panasonic's 2004 model year DVD Drives are similar in appearance. Panasonic's 2006 and later model year DVD Drives have metal cases. See this thread for more information:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1082922
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post #999 of 1062
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Originally Posted by tom1492 View Post

I am not sure where to post this.
I have an rd xs32 toshiba with an IR blaster. Does anybody know an IR code for the comcast dc50x dta which comcast gives for free. I tried searching but never saw a post that told what 3 digit ir code to use.
The dta is attached to comast, its output goes to rd xs32 the ir blaster goes to dta. rd xs32 goes to the tv.

This post might provide some clues:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post19633609
post #1000 of 1062
From what I've read, I don't think people have had much luck getting any of the old DVD recorders to control the DTA's.

Things like the Replay TVs they have, because those are code updatable.

Maybe you'll get lucky though, and find a code with your unit by going through the fun task of searching one-by-one.
post #1001 of 1062
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

The Panasonic DMR-ES10 is a 2005 model. Attached below are five photos of Panasonic DVD Drive VXY1867 DVD found in a 2005 DMR-ES30V. Panasonic's 2004 model year DVD Drives are similar in appearance. Panasonic's 2006 and later model year DVD Drives have metal cases. See this thread for more information:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1082922

Digado, is that 2004-2005 burner made by Matsushita in Japan?

I don't quite see the point though, if the RD-KX50 uses the same burner as the Panasonic. What is the availability of this burner, even for Panasonic owners??? Do used Panasonic DMR-ES10 units go for cheap on Ebay?

I presume that vintage of burner is hard to find now, and has to be repaired by Panasonic, if they will do it at all. Even if the Panasonic repair center still has a stock of burners, they won't sell them to Toshiba owners, much less install it.

Another thing that doesn't add up is the burner on the RD-KX50 is quite durable, quite unlike the plethora of problems with Panasonic burners.
post #1002 of 1062
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Originally Posted by Clevor View Post

Digado, is that 2004-2005 burner made by Matsushita in Japan?

I don't quite see the point though, if the RD-KX50 uses the same burner as the Panasonic. What is the availability of this burner, even for Panasonic owners??? Do used Panasonic DMR-ES10 units go for cheap on Ebay?

I presume that vintage of burner is hard to find now, and has to be repaired by Panasonic, if they will do it at all. Even if the Panasonic repair center still has a stock of burners, they won't sell them to Toshiba owners, much less install it.

Another thing that doesn't add up is the burner on the RD-KX50 is quite durable, quite unlike the plethora of problems with Panasonic burners.

See the link in my earlier post for a discussion of some Panasonic DVD Drive model variations in the 2005 thru 2010 model years. Panasonic DVD Drives of a given model year, other than those from the 2008, 2009 and 2010 model year models, do not interchange across model years. It is highly unlikely that older Toshiba built-recorders use a proprietary Panasonic DVD Drive. Of course Toshiba transitioned to Funai manufacture circa 2006.

The main service issue with Panasonic DVD Drives is routine cleaning of the rubber hub atop the spindle (turntable). Laser assembly longevity is another issue. Panasonic owners wishing to extend laser assembly longevity should use 8x DVD-R media.

I own around twenty Panasonic recorders and more than a dozen recorders manufactured by Funai--two of which carry the Toshiba brand name. I've just addressed cleaning the laser lens and rubber hub in Funai DVD Drives. In the following post the first four photos depict the DVD Drive in a Toshiba D-R410 from October 2008:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post19647592
post #1003 of 1062
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Originally Posted by Clevor View Post

Digado, is that 2004-2005 burner made by Matsushita in Japan?

I don't quite see the point though, if the RD-KX50 uses the same burner as the Panasonic. What is the availability of this burner, even for Panasonic owners??? Do used Panasonic DMR-ES10 units go for cheap on Ebay?

I presume that vintage of burner is hard to find now, and has to be repaired by Panasonic, if they will do it at all. Even if the Panasonic repair center still has a stock of burners, they won't sell them to Toshiba owners, much less install it.

Another thing that doesn't add up is the burner on the RD-KX50 is quite durable, quite unlike the plethora of problems with Panasonic burners.

If we could purchase a new ES-10 drive it would probably be cost prohibitive. AFA used ES-10's, I do see them occasionally pop up on Craigslist and they are generally <$50 since it's fairly old and HDD less.
As Digado said Panasonic burners are actually quite durable, IF you keep the spindle clean. If you don't, you'll be having frequent problems.
You said that the KX50 burner is quite durable, is it the same drive as in the XS-35? I have one but have read the drive is quite problematic, although mine seems to work fine(except RAM discs don't read or format at all).
post #1004 of 1062
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

If we could purchase a new ES-10 drive it would probably be cost prohibitive...

The DVD Drive for the DMR-ES10 is still listed on the Panasonic National Parts website as VXY1867 DRIVE $195.31. (Shipping and handling are extra.) This VXY1867 DVD Drive is used with non-hard drive 2005 model year Panasonic recorders. 2005 model year Panasonic hard drive models use the VXY1872 DVD Drive pictured below. The Panasonic National Parts website still lists the VXY1872 DRIVE at $225.35. (Shipping and handling are extra.)
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post #1005 of 1062
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

If we could purchase a new ES-10 drive it would probably be cost prohibitive. AFA used ES-10's, I do see them occasionally pop up on Craigslist and they are generally <$50 since it's fairly old and HDD less.
As Digado said Panasonic burners are actually quite durable, IF you keep the spindle clean. If you don't, you'll be having frequent problems.
You said that the KX50 burner is quite durable, is it the same drive as in the XS-35? I have one but have read the drive is quite problematic, although mine seems to work fine(except RAM discs don't read or format at all).

The burner in the RD-XS35 is different than on the KX50, but should have no problem reading DVD-RAM, if it can read DVD-R OK, so maybe it's your disks. Taiyo Yuden DVD-RAM is the best to use in Toshiba RD-XS units. Not sure of the current state of things, but last I heard is Maxell or Victor-JVC (possibly only sold in Japan), is TY DVD-RAM.

Supposedly, the latest firmware in these units is supposed to improve compatibility with DVD-RAM, but I've never found that to be the case. On some brands of DVD-RAM, only half the disks can be initialized on an RD-XS, but 100% of TY media can.
post #1006 of 1062
I only have Panasonic 2-3x RAM discs and further complicate things they've all been used(formatted) in my Panasonics. I would have thought though that a Toshiba low level format would have rendered the discs usable in my Toshiba, but that is not the case.
The XS-35 will read programs recorded on my Panasonics but I don't see a thumbnail.
post #1007 of 1062
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I only have Panasonic 2-3x RAM discs and further complicate things they've all been used(formatted) in my Panasonics. I would have thought though that a Toshiba low level format would have rendered the discs usable in my Toshiba, but that is not the case.
The XS-35 will read programs recorded on my Panasonics but I don't see a thumbnail.

Panasonic DVD-RAM is one of the worst I've tried! And this was stuff I bought in Japan. They were cheap so I bought them. Not so cheap when you end up throwing away most the disks.

I'm surprised the Toshiba even saw anything on your disks. Before, you could check the packaging to find DVD-RAM made in Japan, but lately, the packaging isn't marked, nor are the disks. All you can do is buy, say Maxell disks, and check all 10 to see if they initialize on the recorder. Victor-JVC (in Japan) is for sure TY, but not sure about the JVC brand alone in the U.S.
post #1008 of 1062
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep an eye open for some non Panasonic RAM discs. Truthfully it's not that big of a deal, I don't really see a need for being able to record RAM discs with my Toshiba. I mainly use it to record great looking -R DVDs
AFA where my Panny RAM discs were made, most are in Japan and a few jewel box discs were actually made in USA. All my discs are 3+ years old but haven't really been used that much.
post #1009 of 1062
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Originally Posted by Clevor View Post

Digado, is that 2004-2005 burner made by Matsushita in Japan?

I don't quite see the point though, if the RD-KX50 uses the same burner as the Panasonic. What is the availability of this burner, even for Panasonic owners??? Do used Panasonic DMR-ES10 units go for cheap on Ebay?

The ES10 is very well known for P/S capacitor problems so they can probably be found fairly cheap at times from people that don't know about the problem and how to repair it.
post #1010 of 1062
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

It is highly unlikely that older Toshiba built-recorders use a proprietary Panasonic DVD Drive.

The KX50 does use a Matsushita proprietary drive. It's been a while since I used one but that drive you show in the pictures may be the one it uses with a different Toshiba made circuit board if I remember right, not sure on that one. It's been 2-3 years since I used one.
post #1011 of 1062
I just picked up an XS54 that seems to be in great condition but the DVD drive is slow reading blank media, I haven't timed it but I'd say 30-45 seconds to read a disc when my other Toshibas take around 10 seconds. Is that normal for this recorder? When I first powered it up it had the dreaded "ERR-14" code of death before I even put a disc in it. The owner swears he never had any problems with the recorder.

I've serviced the burner and it got slightly better, the first time I tried it must have been a minute or so to read a disc, I thought it wasn't going to read it at all. The burner doesn't look like it's had much use, the spindle was clean and the dvd laser transverse motor shaft looked like it had little to no wear unlike most of them I've seen.
post #1012 of 1062
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I only have Panasonic 2-3x RAM discs and further complicate things they've all been used(formatted) in my Panasonics. I would have thought though that a Toshiba low level format would have rendered the discs usable in my Toshiba, but that is not the case.
The XS-35 will read programs recorded on my Panasonics but I don't see a thumbnail.

I have many RAM discs recorded on Panasonic recorders, they can usually be read by the Toshiba recorders though rather reluctantly. Toshiba recorders don't really like RAM discs the way Panasonics do from my experience. They don't show thumbnails but they do play. I've had no problems formatting and using the Panasonic recorded RAMs in Toshiba recorders.

Once I set one of the Panasonic recorded RAMs to copy protect in a Toshiba recorder and the contents of the disc could no longer be read by Toshiba or Panasonic recorders or in a PC.

I've never had any problems with Panasonic RAMs and I have many of them. They are the older 2x discs.
post #1013 of 1062
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I just picked up an XS54 that seems to be in great condition but the DVD drive is slow reading blank media, I haven't timed it but I'd say 30-45 seconds to read a disc when my other Toshibas take around 10 seconds. Is that normal for this recorder? When I first powered it up it had the dreaded "ERR-14" code of death before I even put a disc in it. The owner swears he never had any problems with the recorder.

I've serviced the burner and it got slightly better, the first time I tried it must have been a minute or so to read a disc, I thought it wasn't going to read it at all. The burner doesn't look like it's had much use, the spindle was clean and the dvd laser transverse motor shaft looked like it had little to no wear unlike most of them I've seen.

The burner in the RD-XS54 is . . . . drum roll please . . . . a Panasonic burner, but it's the less durable ones with the metal case. I know the RD-XS32, even with a new burner, is slow to read discs, but I don't recall the RD-XS54 being too slow (I only use this unit once a year). I don't feel the RD-XS54 burners are very robust either. The used unit I got off Ebay lasted maybe 3 months under heavy use before giving up the ghost.

The ERR-14 message may mean a bad burner or bum Digi PC board, but most likely your burner is on it's last legs.

I'm currently using a refurbished Panasonic SW-9585-C on my RD-XS32. It's a PC-type burner with the metal case, made in China or whatever. The advantage of this burner is it will work with both DVD-R and DVD-RAM, with minor workarounds. After about a year, it would fail to dub the 2nd title to DVD-R, or it would fail to initialize a few thumbnails for finalizing. However turning the recorder off and on would cure the problem. As I had nothing to lose, I took it apart, blew it out with compressed air, and cleaned the laser with a Q-tip moistened with alcohol. So far no problems, and if I can get another year out of this refurb that's fine since it only cost $19.

I'm thinking the early 2004-2005 Panasonic burners with plastic housing were made in Japan and are very durable, but the later burners with metal housing and made in China/Thailand need to have done what DigaDo recommends. Panasonic quit making stuff in Japan like VCRs around 2002-2003 or so. In fact I still have two Panasonic VCRs made in Japan. At the time, I switched to the Toshiba 6-Head DNR units which had better image quality.
post #1014 of 1062
I already did the spindle, it didn't really need it but I did it anyway, the transverse motor shaft and the laser guide rails, it helped a little but I don't think it should take as long as it does to read a disc. Probably the reason the guy ebay'd it.

I already bought an LG 4167b to replace the Panasonic burner, hopefully it will work. I never use recorders for anything but recording, editing and burning to DVD so I don't care if I lose some functions as long as it will burn R and RW discs.
post #1015 of 1062
I'm happy to say the 4167 does work in the XS-54 but high speed dubbing is a no go. It burns at 4x no matter wheather it's set to low or high speed. I'm using Verbatim 16x discs with the latest burner firmware (DL13), so I don't think it's discs or firmware. I think it will only high speed dub with the original burner.

If anyone has been able to get high speed dubbing to work with a burner other than the original one I'd love to hear how.
post #1016 of 1062
Well, after half a dozen burns the LG no longer works. It starts to burn in the wrong place on the disc, burns at 2x, then fails to finalize. I've tried everything I can to get it to work again with no success. The original drive still works.
post #1017 of 1062
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Well, after half a dozen burns the LG no longer works. It starts to burn in the wrong place on the disc, burns at 2x, then fails to finalize. I've tried everything I can to get it to work again with no success. The original drive still works.

That is not good news. I don't have the exact Toshiba you have (I have an XS34) but per the advice in this forum I purchased the same DVD drive (LG 4167B) as a replacement when the burner in mine fails. I'm assuming I will have the same problem in mine as you did in your XS54

EDIT: Just for yucks I tried to find the AV thread that listed potential DVD drive replacements for the various Toshiba XS Models. I didn't find it but I did find a vendor that apparently has parts for my model, including a DVD drive. I think the price is more than I paid for my unit....

http://www.partstore.com/Part/Toshib...32490/New.aspx
post #1018 of 1062
I've seen other people here say that LG drive works fine so it may just be something with my particular burner.

I'm thinking there may be nothing wrong with the original drive. Is your XS-34 slow reading recordable discs? It takes about 40 seconds to read discs. The XS-32 was slower than that so I wonder if that's just normal.

The drive looks like it's had little or no use and the guy I got the recorder from said he never used the burner. With what I saw on the HDD I tend to believe him, it was mostly Frontline with a few awards shows or something like that. Probably not stuff most people burn to DVD.
post #1019 of 1062
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I've seen other people here say that LG drive works fine so it may just be something with my particular burner.

I'm thinking there may be nothing wrong with the original drive. Is your XS-34 slow reading recordable discs? It takes about 40 seconds to read discs. The XS-32 was slower than that so I wonder if that's just normal.

The drive looks like it's had little or no use and the guy I got the recorder from said he never used the burner. With what I saw on the HDD I tend to believe him, it was mostly Frontline with a few awards shows or something like that. Probably not stuff most people burn to DVD.



I'm not sure what is meant be "reading recordable disks" but I rarely use the DVD drive in my unit for anything other than burning new DVD-R discs. I almost never use it for playback.


When I do, for finalized or commercial DVD disks, the burner is fairly quick, for others I think it takes a while longer (and makes more noises than it use to ).
post #1020 of 1062
Just reading blank RAM/RW/R discs. It takes the XS-54 about 40 seconds to read recordable discs. The XS-35 only takes about 15 seconds. The XS-32 was even slower than the XS-54 so I don't know if that 40 seconds is normal or if the burner has problems.
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