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Oppo DV971H FAQ / Brain Dump

Welcome to the thread!

The Oppo Digital DV971H has been one of the more exciting players to appear recently. Combining solid hardware choices with nicely implemented firmware, the DV971H is a top ranked inexpensive player with great disc handling ability and excellent picture quality. Oppo Digital's customer support is amongst the best -- combine that with a responsive development team and the DV971H is a player that is getting better and better.

Please note the reported results do change with the firmware. Because of this, the first post is always a work "in progress".

Contents:
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  1. News
  2. Firmware
  3. Manual/Tips/FAQ
  4. Defect/Wish Llist
  5. Review/Test Results
NEWS!!!!!!

DV971H Selected as one of the Best of 2005 by Secrets of Home Theater

Secrets "Best of 2005"

DV971H Scores 98 on Secrets of Home Theater Benchmark

Secrets of Home Theater DV971H review

NEW VERSION (3rd style) REMOTE:

Click on http://www.oppodigital.com

Click on "Buy Now"

That action will present the page on how to obtain the revised, new-style remote.

Click on the remote picture for a larger view.

Ergonomically, it's the best remote yet for the DV971H. The "glow-in-the-dark" buttons have returned. It uses AAA batteries. It is compatible with the second version of the remote codes and the latest firmware.

FIRMWARE:

The firmware is cumulative -- it contains all prior fixes.

MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 11-0830
Release Date: September 21, 2006

This release addresses a rare occurrence of no center audio channel output through the 5.1ch analog audio output. It also includes all the following new features and improvements from the 10-0720 major release version:

1. Improved handling of "forced subtitle" for DVD discs

This version improves the handling of "forced subtitle" for DVD discs. For certain DVD discs that contains foreign "forced subtitle" tracks, foreign subtitle text will no longer erratically appear when there is english text in the picture. Additionally, when the dialog is in a foreign language and the DVD disc contains a corresponding English "forced subtitle" track, English subtitle will automatically show.

2. Improved disc compatibility

This version resolves the playback problem with certain Sony DVD discs that contains a "Commentary Disclaimer" screen. It also improves compatibility with DVD-Video disc recorded using older version of Nero Burning ROM program.

3. Improved audio/video synchronization (previously included in the F-0316 beta firmware)

This version of firmware reduces the time difference between audio and video outputs. Due to the time required to decode and process the audio and video contents encoded on a DVD disc, there is usually a time difference between the audio and video outputs. In previous firmware versions the time difference could be large enough to cause noticeable "lip sync" problems under certain circumstances. In this version the time difference is reduced. This version also reduced the variation of A/V synchronization caused by playback control operations such as pausing, repeating, chapter skipping and accessing the setup menu.

Special thanks to Gary Bosman for his contribution to this improvement.

4. Eliminated Chroma Up-sampling Error (CUE) for component output

Chroma Up-sampling Error is a problem that could happen when the reduced resolution Chroma data (color information) on the DVD discs are up-sampled to create full resolution color image. When it happens, edges, especially diagonal edges of saturated color will have a "staircase" or "mini-blind" effect. The OPDV971H does not have CUE with its DVI output. This version eliminates CUE on its component output.

5. Improved resume play function

This function works for DVD-Video discs only. To save a playback position so that you can resume later, press the "EJECT" button on the remote while the video is playing. The player will show "Saving Breakpoint" on screen and eject the disc tray. Next time when the same DVD disc is loaded into the player, it will automatically resume from the saved playback position. You may cancel this automatic resume playback and start play from the beginning by pressing the "STOP" button on the remote control.

The memory function can remember 1 breakpoint only. Any new "EJECT" operation will overwrite the previous breakpoint with a new one.

6. Improved DivX video playback functions

This version of firmware properly supports DivX video files larger than 2GB. Fast forward and reverse speed are improved. It also improved compatibility with DivX video files that contains incomplete or corrupted index. With previous firmware version, these files may not play completely. With this firmware version the player will try to play the entire program despite the missing or corrupted index. However fast forwarding or reverse may not work in this case. For DivX files with associated text subtitles, the font size of the subtitle can be adjusted using the DVD player's setup menu.

7. Output resolution display

When the "DVI" button on the remote control is pressed, the current DVI output resolution will be displayed on the screen as well as the on the player's front panel. To actually switch the output resolution, stop playback so the OPPO logo screen is shown. Press the "DVI" button once to display the current resolution. Press it again to switch to the next available output resolution. The new resolution will also be displayed on both the screen and front panel.

8. Enhanced front panel dimmer control

The "Light Control" setup menu option has been expanded to support 4 modes:

On - Both the Vacuum Fluorescent Display (VFD) window and the button LED lights are on.
LED Off - Button LED lights are turned off; VFD window is on.
Dim - Button LED lights are turned off; VFD window is at reduced brightness.
All Off - All front panel lights and displays are turned off. This setting resumes back to "On" after the player is turned off to avoid user confusion.
9. Skip function for digital music files

When playing digital music files, the "Skip Prev" (|<<) and "Skip Next" (>>|) buttons on the remote control can be used to skip to the the previous or next track. This function enables the user to skip tracks without using the navigation menu on the video screen. When playback is stopped, these buttons can still be used to turn pages for the the on screen navigation menu, just like with the previous firmware version.

Located Here:Oppo 0830 firmware

MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0302
Release Date: March 15, 2006

Summary of Changes in This Release:

Rolled back the improvement to audio/video synchronization of F-0220 release due to side effects to DivX/MPEG-2 playback and picture quality.

Previous fixes are included.

Located here:Oppo 0302 firmware

05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0220
Release Date: February 27, 2006

Summary of Changes in This Release:
  1. Improvement to DVI output timing.
  2. Improvement to audio/video synchronization.
  3. Longer audio delay option.
  4. Picture settings applied for PAL mode.
  5. Longer file name display in file browsing mode.
  6. Proper "Skip Prev" function for CD playback.
  7. Support for DivX Video-On-Demand activation.
Known Issue:

Playback of some DivX/MPEG-2 files may not be smooth but appear "choppy". OPPO Digital is working on improvement to this issue. If you primarily use the player to watch DivX/MPEG-2 contents, please do not upgrade to this firmware version.

Located here: Oppo 0220 firmware

If suffering from "choppy" video, look here for temporary beta firmware (does not contain all updates):

Oppo 0228 beta firmware for "choppy" video"

Also new is the updated user's manual:

Updated DV-971H manual

Version: OP971-1111B
Release Date: November 22, 2005

*For "Black" and "3rd style" remote users at the present time*

The firmware level has been reported to cause a shift in image with certain displays, if this problem occurs revert to firmware 1022 to resolve.

Summary of changes in this release:
  1. Default brightness level set to studio level.
Located here: Oppo 1111B firmware

Version: OP971-D-1022
Release Date: October 25, 2005

Summary of changes in this release:
  1. Added support for 2:2 Cadence for PAL playback. This feature is not perfect yet, please see the note above and review the Release Notes for more details.
  2. Proper DivX aspect ratio support. 4:3 content will no longer be stretched to fit the screen.
  3. Enhanced DVD+R Dual Layer support.
  4. Fixed TrueLife turning off DCDi. Turning Off TrueLife functionality will now retain all DCDi functionality.
  5. Added Noise Reduction function.
  6. Fixed Frame Stepping for Black remote users.
  7. Fixed proper aspect ratio support while zooming.
  8. Added support for DTS and Dolby Digital tracks on DVD-Audio discs
  9. Added memory function for single ejected disc
  10. Added Random and Shuffle functionality for Audio CD playback.
  11. Increased the DVI mode change display time.
  12. Added firmware Version display through OSD button.
  13. Added support for DivX Digital Right Management (DRM) and Video on Demand (VOD)
  14. Increased baseline Brightness. Default Brightness is now equivalent to +5 in previous firmware.
  15. Changed user interface font to Arial.
Located here:Oppo 1022 firmware

Version: OP971-8-0628
Release Date: June 29, 2005

This firmware release addressed the following:
  1. Fixed shimmering that bothered certain percentage of the user population
  2. Added Off option for Sharpness
  3. Improved audio/video synchronization
  4. Added five Audio Delay options to suit various receiver systems. Options include 10ms, 20ms, 30ms, 40ms, and 50 ms.
  5. Added On/Off options for Faroudja CCS (Cross Color Suppression)
  6. Added On/Off options for Faroudja TrueLife enhancement
  7. Added On/Off options for Angle icon
  8. Added support for 540p DVI resolution
  9. Added a toggle between the silvered-colored remote and the new black-colored remote by pressing and hold the STOP key on the front panel of the OPPO player for 3 second and then release. The firmware is default to support the silver-colored remote.

Located here: 0628 Oppo Firmware

MANUAL/TIPS/FAQ:

Oppo Digital's DV971H Manual

Oppo Digital's DV971H manual .pdf

Oppo Digital's DV971H FAQ page:

Oppo Digital's DV971H FAQ

Quick Settings Guide for the DV-971H (includes new 2005 settings)

Oppo DV-971H settings guide

Inaccessable Settings
Certain settings are not accessible while a disc is playing or loaded.
In this case, eject the disc to access the settings.

Settings affected:

DVD-Audio
Video Mode
DivX(R) VOD

Preference Page (The far right box)

DVI output resoluton

Twelve steps to update the firmware:
  1. Burn firmware on onto CD-R using .iso image then:
  2. Write down/remember the current player settings -- they will revert to factory default
  3. Turn on player.
  4. Open tray.
  5. Place disk on tray.
  6. Close tray.
  7. Press "Play" button on front panel when prompted on-screen.
  8. The disk will read and eject.
  9. Remove the disk from the tray.
  10. Do nothing!
  11. A couple of minutes later the tray will automatically close and the player reboot.
  12. Done! Enjoy!
Change Remote Function (black and 3rd remote users):
  1. Turn on your DVD player and display device.
  2. Eject any disc that may be inside of the DVD player. Remove the disc and close the tray.
  3. Wait for the display message "No Disc" to appear in the upper left corner of your display device.
  4. Press and hold (hard) the Stop button on the front panel of the DVD unit (NOT THE REMOTE) for 5 seconds. Release.
The message "New RC" will appear briefly in the upper left hand corner of your display unit.

DV971H SETTINGS:
Default settings are utilzed, for the most part. Some suggestions:
  • TV Display = Wide/SQZ (Will "pillarbox" 4:3 material with a slight penalty in 4:3 resolution)
  • Brightness = 0 (optimized for DVI "studio" luminance range)
  • Sharpness = OFF (will eliminate edge enhancement and the previously reported "shimmering")
  • CCS = OFF (may reduce some flicker between bright colors)
  • TrueLife = OFF (setting to ON will enable the Noise Reduction feature to be used)
With the latest firmware the center positions of Brightness, Contrast, and Saturation are an excellent starting point.

DIRECT PLAY:
To skip over the majority of warnings, promos, etc:

As soon as the DVD will allow:
  1. Press Stop
  2. Press Menu
"Direct Play" may appear briefly on the screen and the movie should begin.

CHECK FIRMWARE VERSION
Check Firmware Version (available with firmware 1022 and later):
  1. Power on the player with no disc inserted.
  2. Press "OSD" on remote.
  3. Note the popup on the screen. The "Batch" notation will be the firmware level.
MAKE REGION FREE:
The latest shipment of units are not region free. To change to region free mode do this:
  1. Press Setup on remote control to access the setup page
  2. Enter 9210 on the remote
  3. A secret menu will pop up
  4. Select 0 to 6 in region code (0 is region free)
  5. Press Setup on remote again to exit
USE WITH HDMI:
Use a DVI/HDMI adapter or adapter cable.
Audio is not transmitted over DVI.
Should be no compatibility issues (I use a DVI/HDMI cable presently).

TOONCES T. CAT'S DUAL LAYER BURN:
Yes, I now have great success with +R DL burns on the OPPO. For me, the key was in getting two very specific things right:
  1. The book-type...set in the burner itself...needs to be set to DVD-ROM. Most burners have utilities available to set the book-type. IMGBurn, a free download, will do it for virtually all burners. Non DVD-ROM DL burns will NOT play in my OPPO.
  2. The layer-break must be in the correct place or it is highly likely that the OPPO will choke on it. Here is my guaranteed method that has yet to fail me: Rip the DVD as an ISO file with DVD Decrypter. The program will automatically create an MDS file with the same name as the ISO you create. Then burn the DL disc using IMGBurn. When you browse to the file, just select the MDS, and not the ISO, for a DL disc and it will place the layer-break in exactly the right place.
This is the process I have found that ALWAYS maintains the precise integrity of the original image. Nero, DVD Fab, DVD Shrink, and every other program I have used all move the layer-break and create problems during the transition. It may not be the case for every unit, but my OPPO is quite sensitive to moving the break.

-Toonces

DEFECT/WISH LIST:

04/24/2006, in approximate order of severity:

The remaining issues are relatively minor. Aside from the macroblock enhance that may affect your display when playing badly encoded disks, the picture over DVI is spectacular. This is a very impressive player for the price.

CURRENT DEFECTS:
  1. The image does not fill the entire frame. There is a 3-4 pixel border around the image in all DVI resolutions. Many displays hide this problem with overscan. BUT... it appears that the MTK chip is responsible, and this could explain the banding that can be seen in the DVE resolution patterns, because the 480x720 image on the DVD would be slightly downscaled, resulting in a small loss of resolution. Fixing this problem may result in an even cleaner image from the DV971H!
  2. The MTK chip handles the DVI pillar-boxing (Wide/SQZ mode) and the zooms. While this is necessary for the component output, it causes a loss of resolution and a loss of zoom quality on the DVI output. The Faroudja chip is designed to handle this, and does a significantly better job. It would be good if OPPO could provide the option to leave the Mediatek chip in WIDE mode, and use the Faroudja chip to handle at least the 2 most common scaling scenarios: An automatic pillar-box for 4:3 content, and an automatic letter-box zoom for 4:3 letter-box content. (The player should be able to read the 4:3 "letterbox" flag to automatically zoom to fill the screen - it already reads the 4:3 "pan and scan" flag to automatically pillar-box in Wide/SQZ mode).
  3. Colorful ghosting on the vertical edges of saturated colors. When Sharpness is set any higher than OFF, this ghosting intensifies and the vertical edges break up. For example, in the setup menu, the yellow selection bar looks ragged on the left and right edges, with a band of blue/magenta next to those edges. The same effect can be seen on the Avia DVD Hue and Saturation Bars - the colors bleed into each other, and into the black text. OPPO's DVD-DL317 Mini DVD Home Theatre System (powered by a similar MTK chip) has a fine-adjustment for sharpness, and as you increase it, the same weird colors begin to appear around menu lettering and saturated colors. It must therefore be a Mediatek problem.
  4. When Truelife is OFF, the NR circuit appears to default to LOW, even though the menu says it's OFF. This causes image retention/ghosting problems in snappy action sequences. Turning on Truelife fixes that issue, but increases the likelihood of macroblock-enhance.
  5. The subwoofer output is disabled when the front speakers are set to "Large". (This applies to the analog outputs only).
  6. Does not automatically display the DVD subtitle-set containing the translation for brief foreign dialog. DVD's like "Star Wars" have this extra subtitle. The DV971H defaults to ALL subtitles OFF, or else it shows foreign language subtitles where English signs or text appear in the film (as in "The Incredibles").
  7. Some languages are not recognized and displayed in the subtitle and audio track options, like Portuguese, Korean, and German (e.g. No Portuguese, on the R4 Brazilian version of LOTR).
  8. Slight Y/C delay on the 480p output.
  9. Minor twitching of parts of the image on some rare DVD material (partly fixed now).
  10. Uneven color saturation over the component connection. Red and Green are about 15% high.
  11. Will not pass "blacker-than-black" over the component connection.

WISHLIST:
  1. Audio Delay feature for the RAW SPDIF output. It is still uncertain whether the current hardware will be able to support this. The inconsistent lip-sync problem has been resolved. A small consistent delay remains, but this can be compensated for, by using the Audio Delay feature on the analog outputs.
  2. A further reduction in the video delay from the MTK chipset may be possible. The Faroudja delay cannot be reduced (this is unavoidable... all of the better upconverting DVD players have a measure of video delay due to the frame-buffering and video processing required for motion-adaptive de-interlacing).
  3. Save the breakpoint when pressing EJECT or PWR-OFF (whichever comes first). Resume from the breakpoint by default (easy to cancel by pressing STOP twice).
  4. 1080p DVI output.
  5. 854x480 DVI support for projectors like the Infocus 4805.
    Ability to reposition subtitles on the screen. Helpful for disks where the subtitles normally fall in the black letterbox bar, which is a nuisance for front projection users who mask their screens.
  6. Ability to convert the black pillarbox/letterbox bars to an adjustable shade of gray, to reduce burn-in on plasma displays.
  7. Kill the preview pane to display file names more easily.
  8. While displaying DVD stills, the pause button sometimes causes a chapter-skip or causes the player to temporarily stop responding to remote commands (particularly in the Avia test patterns).
  9. "Jacket_P" Support. When a DVD with "Jacket_P" info is paused for a while, the player would display the movie's splash screen instead of the OPPO logo.
  10. Remove On-Screen-Display for "Pause".
  11. Selectable Frame / Field pause mode.
  12. Quick-replay / review function
  13. Faroudja's "macroblock-enhance" bug. Macroblocking appears on some DVD's as an artifact of heavy MPEG compression. It looks like patches of moving/pulsating off-color blocks, and is most often seen on background walls and floors, in mist, and in fade-in/fade-out scenes. It is normally very subtle, but for some reason, the Faroudja chip exaggerates it. This bug appears to be very display dependant, so it only becomes distracting on some displays. This problem has already been reduced to some degree with the "Truelife" and "Noise Reduction" options. Panasonic worked with Faroudja to reduce this problem in the S97 player, but it seems to have no significant advantage over the OPPO in this area. Apparently, it cannot be fixed altogether, so it remains a trade-off with the use of this otherwise fantastic de-interlacing and scaling chip.
  14. Gamma adjustment.
  15. Display remaining chapter and title time on the LED display without having it appear on the screen.

Comments welcome. Please bear in mind that Oppo Digital is doing a tremendous job of addressing firmware defects (and reasonable requests) from fussy consumers like us. If your issue is listed here, don't badger Oppo with calls or complaints - they will be fixed in due course.

REVIEW/TEST RESULTS:

Keep in mind that the display can introduce its own artifacts. It will be noted if it is thought the display is contributing to any anomaly.

Basically, this is a rundown of the DVE video test patterns with certain tests from Avia included. The first description notes the test and expected results. Beneath that are the actual tested results, in italics.

Let me know what you think of this format.

EQUIPMENT:

Display: Panasonic TC-22LH1, Hitachi 32HDT55, Dell W1900, Sharp LC-26D7U
Cable: Monster DVI-HDMI, Samsung DVI, Dell-supplied DVI
Discs: DVE, Avia
Other: 6500K florescent light

REVIEW (DVI & Component):

Physical:
I think the Oppo is an attractive looking player -- I really like the understated styling and brushed metal accent on the front panel. The player is solid feeling. While the tray is thin and flexes, it appears to be tough. Solid metal on five sides. The disc door opens quietly. The discs spin smoothly and there seems to be no unusual vibrations. The RCA connectors are gold plated. Four foot pads with simulated "feet" in front. The remote is decent and much nicer than the Momitsu V880 -- larger buttons and better "feel". The buttons glow-in-the-dark. Uses two AAA batteries. Beginning 11/28/2005 a new style remote is being shipped. This remove is a huge leap in quality over the previous two versions. Great ergonomics, more solid "feel", nice balance. The glow-in-the-dark buttons have returned.

Operation:
Fast, secure, disc handling. Skipping tracks and general navigation is a joy. As with other MediaTek players, layer change is lightning fast. The Panasonic S97 has a lot more configuration items, no doubt about it, however the simplicity of the Oppo has its appeal as well. No HDCP issues as there isn't any HDCP! The "zoom" feature, works much like the Terapin TT-1800 with both anamorphic zoom and reduction. The quality of the zoom is not quite in the leauge of the Momitsu V880, but the picture looks fair. DVI was enabled "out of the box". With component there is only 480i available. Did not find any means to configure for 480p component. I would urge Oppo to enable 480p component (and pass BTB at component) as the MediaTek does a good job of deinterlacing. The picture controls do not operate at 480i so contrast and brighness are not adjustable at that resolution. A built in DTS decoder is available w/latest firmware. One disc lockup with DVE noted when testing 480i when trying to access top menu.

Picture:
The Oppo player has a *lot* of detail. Beginning with the 4/13/2005 update, the picture controls work properly with "center" being a good (if not optimum) starting point. With these settings, color, tint, BTB, grayscale all looked correct and verified via DVE, filters, and 6500K reference. Good motion characteristics -- as expected with Faroudja. Pans looked smooth. With firmware 6/28/2005 and later there are no edge enhancement issues. Macroblock enhance is noted in some dim scenes. Some light random blocks of color tint noted with black and white material. Individual results may vary, but after lenghty viewing I think the Oppo may be doing a slightly better job than the S97. In many ways, the picture of this player reminds me of the 'S97 -- not real surprising given the Faroudja processing. Macroblock enhance aside, I would say the picture is vastly better than the V880. The Oppo does not exhibit the "green depression" noted with the Sony '975. No odd grayscale tinting noted. Component is a bit disappointing, no 480p, and 480i did not pass BTB.

DVD COMPATIBILITY (if listed, it's "OK"):
  • DVD-R : DVD Video
  • DVD+R : DVD Video, Divx/Xvid
  • DVD-RW : DVD Video (but not VR mode)
  • DVD+RW : DVD Video
  • CD-R : MP3, JPEG, NTSC VCD, PAL VCD, SVCD, Divx/Xvid
  • CD-RW :
  • DVD-Audio : YES. For two channel set the Downmix to "Stereo", for multichannel set to "5.1CH".
While the EQ and SF buttons will not affect the sound as in other modes, these are undocumented "Previous Page" and "Next Page" DVD-Audio operations.

PAL : (region free)
NTSC: (region free)

CONNECTION COMPATIBILITY:
DVI: Digital only. DVI->VGA adatper will not work. HDCP not present.
Component: Will not upconvert via component / not progresssive via component
480i via DVI : No - only 480p, 720p, 1080i

VIDEO PERFORMANCE:
1080i : HDMI w/Panasonic TC-22LH1, Sharp LC-26D7U
720p : DVI w/Hitachi 32HDT55, Dell W1900, Sharp LC-26D7U
480i : Component w/Panasonic TC-22LH1

SUMMARY:

Blacker than Black :
1080i : Passes BTB
720p : Passes BTB
480i : Does not plass BTB

Whiter than White :
1080i : Passes WTW
720p : Passes WTW
480i : Possibly (need to recheck)

Macroblock enhance :
1080i : Present, visible, no better/worse than other players
720p : Present, visible, no better/worse than other players
480i : no (no Faroudja processing)

Chroma Upsampling Error :
1080i : no
720p : no
480i : no

Subtitle Sync :
1080i : Good, some occasional combing noted
720p : Good, some occasional combing noted
480i : Excellent

Bad Edit :
1080i : OK
720p : OK
480i : OK

Layer Change :
1080i : *Blink* of an eye
720p : *Blink* of an eye
480i : *Blink* of an eye

Motion Adaptive Deinterlacer :
1080i : Yes
720p : Yes
480i : N/A

Frame/Field pause :
1080i : Field
720p : Field
480i : N/A

4:3 display on 16:9 (aka "pillarbox"):
1080i: Yes (with a slight penalty of reduction in resolution)
720p: Yes (with a slight penalty of reduction in resolution)
480i: No

DVE TEST PATTERN RESULTS (DVI @ 720p and Component @ 480i):

12 - Video Test Signals, Display Setup Patterns

12.2 - DVD PLUGE w/Gray Scale - Check for BTB, uniform color w/6500k ref, uniform geometry

720p : BTB OK, gray OK, geometry OK
480i : No BTB, gray OK, geometery OK

12.3 - DVD PLUGE w/White - check for BTB, change in BTB bars, uniform geometry

720p : BTB OK, gray OK, geometry OK
480i : No BTB, gray OK, geometry OK

12.4 - Needle Pulse - mostly for CRT. Ensure vertical line does not bend (lower white level if line bends)

720p : No problem noted
480i : No problem noted

12.5 - DVD PLUGE w/Gray & Bars - "catch all": check for BTB, black/white crush,color w/gray reference

720p : BTB OK, no black/white crush, color OK
480i : No BTB, no black/white crush, slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed

12.6 - Color Bars w/Gray Reference - color check w/filter: red based colors the same, green based colors the same, blue based colors the same

720p : Color Bars OK. No "green depression".
480i : Color Bars, slight dip in blue, slightly skewed. No "green depression".

12.7 - Split Bars w/Gray & DVD PLUGE - "catch all": check for BTB, black/white crush, split bars

720p : BTB OK, no black white crush, color bars OK
480i : No BTB, no black white crush, color bars, slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed

12.8 - Combination - "catch all": check for BTB, color, Y/C delay, luminance sweeps

720p : BTB OK, color OK, some Y/C delay noted, some fading with luminance sweeps at high frequency
480i : No BTB, color slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed, Y/C looked good, slight fading with luminance sweeps at high frequency

12.9 - 20% Window w/DVD PLUGE : the pluge should not change with the varying window brightness no bars should appear or disappear

720p : BTB OK
480i : No BTB

12.10 - 100% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9

720p : BTB OK, no fading or brightening
480i : No BTB, no fading or brightening

12.11 - 40% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9

720p : as with 12.10
480i : as with 12.10

12.12 - 80% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9

720p : as with 12.10
480i : as with 12.10

12.13 - 20% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9

720p : as with 12.10
480i : as with 12.10

12.14 - Reverse Gray Ramps (with steps) - even color with ref 6500K - no black or white crush within the framing "dots"

720p : even color with 6500K, no black/white crush
480i : even color with 6500K, no black/white crush

12.15 - Reverse Shallow Ramps - criss-crossed gray ramps. The ramps should be smooth with almost imperceptible steps. The gradation should be smooth and visible with both the top and bottom ramps. If not, crushing is taking place.

720p : Ramps OK
480i : Ramps OK

12.16 - Ambient Light Reference - adjust 6500K backlight to match brightness, if used

Not/Applicable

12.17 - 1.33 Overscan Pattern - check for overscan and edge enhancement (very much display dependent). The center cross should not be outlined by a white line on any edge.

720p:
Top 4%
Bottom 2%
Left 1%
Right 3%
No edge enhancement noted


480i:
Top 4%
Bottom 1%
Left 3%
Right 2.5%
Some edge enhancement noted


12.18 - 1.33 Aspect Ratio & Geometry Pattern - left: all horizontal/vertical lines visible: no flashing,no banding. right: all diagonal lines visible, smooth, no flashing, no banding

720p : Mostly OK, some banding of high freq, horizontal/vertical lines noted (may be display). Otherwise OK.
480i : Mostly OK, slight banding of high freq, horizontal/vertical lines noted (may be display). Otherwise OK.

12.19 - 1.78 Aspect Ratio & Geometry Pattern - as above with 1.78 markers

720p : as with 12.18
480i : as with 12.18

12.20 - 1.78 Convergence & Geometry - should be centered

720p : see 12.17 some cropping/off center noted (may be display)
480i : see 12.17 some cropping/off center noted (may be display)

12.21 - Video Black


13 - Video Test Signals Picture Resolution

13.2 - SMPTE RP 133 - multiple:
1. Alphabet on all sides should be complete and readable.
2. Gray blocks should be uniform in color w/reference 6500K source. Next to the 0% box there is a 0% outer and 5% inner box. The 5% inner box should be visible. Next to the 100% box there is a 100% outer and 95% inner box. The 95% inner box should be visible. If either inner box is not visible, crushing is occurring.

720p :
1. Top row of capital letters cut off (may be display). Left "A" cropped.
Right "M" missing.
2. Inner boxes OK.


480i :
1. Top row of capital letters cut off (may be display). Left "A" cropped.
Right "M" missing.
2. Inner boxes OK.


13.3 - Multiburst Vertical - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no
flashing, no jittering.

720p : Some banding noted with "full" (may be display), otherwise OK.
480i : very slight banding noted at "full", otherwise OK

13.4 - Multiburst, Horizontal, 0.5 to 5.75 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness of segments, no banding no flashing, no jittering.

720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)
480i : Even brightness, very slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)

13.5 - Multiburst, Horizontal, 5.75 to 6.75 Mhz - all line visible, even brightness, no banding no flashing, no jittering. If the brightness decreases, freq response is fading. If brightness increases left to right, freq response boost or edge enhancement

720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)
480i : Slight decrease in brightness, very slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)

13.6 - Luminance Sweep, 0.5 to 5.75 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no flashing, no jittering.

720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)
480i : Even brightness, slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display)

13.7 - Pb & Pr Sweep 0.25 Mhz to 2.785 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no flashing, no jittering, no fading to gray

720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies,some fading to gray (may be display)
480i : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies,some fading to gray (may be display)

13.8 - Video Black


14 - Video Test Signals, System Evaluation

14.2 - 20% Flat Field - even gray at 6500K

720p : Even color gray w/6500K reference
480i : Even color gray w/6500K reference

14.3 - 40% Flat Field - as above

720p : as with 14.2


14.4 - 60% Flat Field - as above

720p : as with 14.2
480i : as with 14.2

14.5 - 80% Flat Field - as above

720p : as with 14.2
480i : as with 14.2

14.6 - 100% Flat Field - as above

720p : as with 14.2
480i : as with 14.2

14.7 - 100% Window w/PLUGE - BTB check, still OK?

720p : BTB OK
480i : No BTB

14.8 - Red 100% Amplitude - red, no orange tine, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check

720p : Color good
480i : Color good

14.9 - Green 100% Amplitude - green, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check

720p : Color good
480i : Color good

14.10 - Blue 100% Amplitude - blue, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check

720p : Color good
480i : Color looks slightly subdued

14.11 - Red 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100%

720p : Color good
480i : Color good

14.12 - Green 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100%

720p : Color good
480i : Color good

14.13 - Blue 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100%

720p : Color good
480i : Color looks slightly subdued

14.14 - Cyan 75% Amplitude - check for noise

720p : Color good
480i : Color looks a bit greenish

14.15 - Magenta 75% Amplitude - check for noise

720p : Color good
480i : Color slightly reddish

14.16 - Yellow, 75% Amplitude - check for noise

720p : Color good
480i : Color good

14.17 - Horizontal Color Bars 100% Saturation - check w/filters

720p : Color good
480i : Blue looks slightly subdued, other colors as noted previously

14.18 - Vertical Color Bars 100% Saturation - check w/filters

720p : Color good
480i : Blue looks slightly subdued, other colors as noted previously

14.19 - Video Black


15 - Video Test Signals, 1.33 Pattern

15.2 - Convergence, 1.33:1 Linear - pillarbox check, should be white line around entire pattern

Not Applicable

15.3 - Convergence, 1.33:1 1.78 letterbox markers - same with 1.78 markers

Not Applicable

15.4 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, 2/3 rate - ideally the concentric rings should move smoothly,no breakup, no flashing, no distortion as it moves and changes direction. This tests the motion adaptive deinterlacing. In practice it is normal with a good motion adaptive deinterlacer for the concentric rings to distort for a moment, then resume good shape when redirection occurs. The diagonal lines on the left should be smooth with no jittering. If output is 480i then the motion adaptive circuitry used will be that of the TV -- if present. 480i will be more of a test of the display.

720p : Looks OK, concentric rings motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Looks Fair, concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

15.5 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, frame rate - as above

720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

15.6 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, field rate - as above

720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

15.7 - MPEG Decoder Test - *major* catch all test pattern:
1. diagonal lines on left smooth, no jittering
2. No banding with 4:2:0 on bottom left, it should be flashing alternate colors
3. Red and blue triangles in the center left should have smooth diagonal edges
4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles in center upper left and right should be smooth and even brightness (aka ICP test)
5. Luminance sweeps at bottom should be even with no bleeding.
6. Rotating box in upper right should be smooth with no jaggies or combing

720p :
1. Diagonal lines smooth
2. No banding, flashing alternate colors
3. Red and Blue Triangles have smooth diagonal edges
4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles are smooth - passes test
5. Little bit of bleeding noted (may be display)
6. Rotating box is smooth


480i :
1. Diagonal lines fairly smooth
2. Banding present
3. Red and Blue Triangles have fairly smooth diagonal edges
4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles are somewhat smooth - some ICP present
5. Little bit of bleeding noted (may be display)
6. Rotating box is smooth


15.8 - Black Stretch Test - check for BTB

720p : BTB does fade a bit with this test (probably display)
480i : No BTB is passed to fade/enhance

15.9 - Bounce - no geometry changes with flashing. Mainly for CRT displays.

720p : No problems noted
480i : No problems noted

15.10 - Video Black


16 - Video Test Signals, 1.78 Pattern

16.2 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, 2/3 rate - as with 15.4

720p : Looks OK, concentric rings motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Looks Fair, concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

16.3 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, frame rate - as with 15.4

720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

16.4 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, field rate - as with 15.4

720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth
480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth

16.5 - A/V Timing Clock - color ramps w/flashing white bar on top. The colors should be smooth and the flashing white bar should coincide with the tone.

720p : Colors smooth, timing OK.
480i : Colors smooth, timing OK.

AVIA (selected) TEST PATTERN RESULTS (DVI @ 720p):

Color Decoder - primary colors should be at 0% with reference to background gray

720p : Colors OK when adjusted, no green depression noted.
480i : Colors OK except for blue when adjusted, blue about 10% down, no green depression noted.

Y/C Delay - primary colors should match up with gray box below at 0.00. Keep in mind that this test is only a rough estimate (Fixed with latest firmware update).
1080i:
Blue : -0.00
Red : -0.00
Green : -0:00



720p:
Blue : -0.00
Red : -0.00
Green : -0.00


480i :
Blue : 0.00
Red : 0.00
Green : 0.00


Moving Zone Plate - Concentric and diagonal lines should retain shape and detail upon movement

Fair, lots of breakup, diagonal lines hold together a bit. The reported "shimmering" can be seen with this pattern as the Vertical Edge Enhancement interferes with adjacent detail lines.

Pixel Crop (4:3) - Should be no pixels cropped from sides or top. Highly display dependent. When run through a Sharp LC-26G7U via the computer DVI route, no pixel cropping was noted. These following figures are from a Dell (720p) and Panasonic (1080i) displaya and are almost certainly the result of overscan with the displays.
720p :
TOP : 12
BOTTOM : 9
LEFT : 12
RIGHT : 20


480i :
TOP : 14
BOTTOM : 5
LEFT : 20+
RIGHT : 16


Thank you: Jeffhdz (for compatibility check), LiteUp! (for region free), GSB, MikeSRC, Josh Z, Guitarman, Neuromancer, Toonces T. Cat, Casey Ng, everyone at Oppo Digital, anyone who has contributed suggestions and reports that have made the DV971H one of the best values in DVD players today.

Paul
post #2 of 8048
Very nice Paul, thanks.
post #3 of 8048
Thanks Paul for a great review. Now for the big question. Which machine would you recommend? Which one would you use or keep? The Panasonic,
Sony, or Oppo.? If you will keep all three which one would you use yourself?
post #4 of 8048
Are these players sold at brick and mortar stores ? Exactly where are people purchasing this unit and what is the retail ?
post #5 of 8048
Quote:
Originally posted by psujohny
Are these players sold at brick and mortar stores ? Exactly where are people purchasing this unit and what is the retail ?

Extremephoto and Amazon.com for $200 plus shipping. I have not seen any reports of a sighting at a brick and mortar store. The player is manufactured by Winbase Electronics Corp. which also has what appears to be exactly the same model with Winbase on the faceplate but I can find nobody that carries Winbase.

http://www.winbase.com.cn/proframe.htm

Chris
post #6 of 8048
Thread Starter 
I *think* Winbase is strictly an OEM.

Paul
post #7 of 8048
Thanks for all the hard work Paul. Come Monday you're all going to get an earfull out of me about this player. Here's to hoping it's good.
post #8 of 8048
Quote:
Originally posted by Paul Bigelow
I *think* Winbase is strictly an OEM.

Paul

There is a picture of a 971H with Winbase on the faceplate and several other products appear to be available with the Winbase name. It may be that Winbase doesn't sell in this country but the website sure makes it appear that they do more than build for other companies.

Paul, thanks for all the information. I am fighting the urge to buy this player since I just bought the Zenith DVB318. I only need DVD video playback but the Oppo sure looks better than my choice.

Chris
post #9 of 8048
Oppo doesn't have a brick and motar store, though you're welcome to drop by the main office if you like. The machines go for $200 + S/H from amazon.
post #10 of 8048
Hey Oppo, on the up-coming firmware, can you add a feature to the zoom where you can watch a 2:35 movie and get rid of the black bars? The first zoom is too much, cuts off a small portion on the top and bottom, and the zoom OSD stays on.
post #11 of 8048
Paul, thanks for doing this again. You are a dedicated videophile

This reference thread will save us a lot of time.
post #12 of 8048
Thread Starter 
Rich,

I was hoping it might!

Seems to be be a very interesting player with some great potential. Hopefully, Winbase/Oppo Digital are particularly responsive concerning firmware updates. I think we'd all be happy to go to the trouble of finding faults if there is a reasonable chance that the faults will either be fixed or explained why they can't be. While the macroblock might be a tough one, the other issues should be fairly easily addressed.

Still have to do component, verify disc format capababilities, etc.

The macroblocking was pretty muich expected given the processor, I'm hoping the compatibility issue with the Panasonic LCD TV @ 1080i HDMI can be resolved or was a fluke. Only the Denon and Toshiba I briefly owned had problems with 1080i HDMI. Other players such as the Panasonic, Sony, do not. The Momitsu was OK except for the menu and subtitles.

Paul
post #13 of 8048
Thread Starter 
Hi Deaf,

Good point. I place the suggestion into the first posting of "things to fix".

Paul
post #14 of 8048
If macroblocking is present why are people buying these new Faroudja based players? Is macroblocking really display dependent or are some people less tolerant of it than others?
post #15 of 8048
Thread Starter 
Jay, could be both. Some displays do show it more than others. I've seen it. I'm thinking that if a display is susceptible to false contouring that the macroblocking is going to be more visible.

Paul
post #16 of 8048
I just received my Oppo today and hooked it up in place of my Samsung HD841. The 841 will get donated to someone I don't necessarily like!...lol

The PQ of the Oppo at 480p is fantastic, better than the 720p of the Sammy. Perhaps it needs to be, because...

I can't seem to get the Oppo to upscale. Whenever I hit the DVI button on the remote I get the "function not allowed" circle and slash in the upper left corner. I also cannot acess the "initial setup" menu.

My monitor is a Hitachi 65WX20 which is capable of supporting 720p and 1080i, is HDCP compiant and has worked perfectly with a Bravo D1, the Samsung 841 and a Denon 1910. I have a DVID cable from Pacific Cables, and a DVID cable I purchased from Extremephoto along with the Oppo. I have tried both cables without any change.

Anyone have any idea what may be happening? Did I just get a bum unit?
post #17 of 8048
Thread Starter 
That's odd. Try unplugging the player for one minute and try again.

Paul
post #18 of 8048
Are you trying it when the DVD is playing or when it's stopped.? It needs to be stopped.
post #19 of 8048
Quote:


Originally posted by Hi Deaf
Are you trying it when the DVD is playing or when it's stopped.? It needs to be stopped.

Thanks Hi Def...that did the trick. I was used to being able to change resolutions on the fly with the 841, and since the Oppo manual didn't specify stopped, I never thought to try it stopped.

I ran a quick setup using THX optimiser on AOTC. The PQ of this thing is AWESOME at 1080i. Jitter is very low and layer changes lightning quick. The 841, which secrets says it a somewhat fast 1 second, is a snail by comparison. On layer change it regularly would interrupt the audio to my Rotel RSP 1098 long enough to make it's relays start clicking into default PLII from either DTS or DD. This of course was annoying.

Now I can't wait to get my PJ and 100+ inch screen!

Thanks again!
post #20 of 8048
I wonder how this player stacks up in the audio compared to the 1910's
post #21 of 8048
Quote:


Originally posted by Paul Bigelow
Jay, could be both. Some displays do show it more than others. I've seen it. I'm thinking that if a display is susceptible to false contouring that the macroblocking is going to be more visible.

Paul

Paul,

Thanks for the excellent technical review. My main concern is with macroblocking considering I have a Benq DLP FP shining on a 100" screen. Can you explain what you mean be false contouring? I don't think my FP exhibits this but I need to be sure before I pull the trigger on this unit. I still have not seen a definitive answer on why the Faroudja 23XX chip installed INSIDE a FP exhibits no macroblocking versus INSIDE a DVD player. The scaler/deinterlacer in my FP is not the best hence my search for a suitable DVD DVI player.

John
post #22 of 8048
Thread Starter 
John,

You're welcome!

"False Contouring" also known as "posterization" or "solarization" is the unnatural appearance of:

1. Concentric circles of color on facial highlights such as cheekbones
2. Bands of blue appearing underwater or in the sky

Typically these situations would call for smooth transitions in the color of skin tones, water, and sky but instead the color is noticibly "stepped". Some displays do better than others.

Paul
post #23 of 8048
Thread Starter 
Tried out some MP3's. Nice display, IMHO. Displays: Time, Title, bit rate, volume level, even a spectral display.

DVD-RW: OK
DVD+RW: OK
CD-R: OK

Paul
post #24 of 8048
Thanks, Paul.

I have not seen the false contouring on my FP based on your description. But I'm using a cheap Philips DVD player through progressive component and letting the FP scale the image. In your estimation is the macroblocking quite evident or do you really have to look for it? I don't see any with my setup but I'm not using a Faroudja scaler/deinterlacer.

John
post #25 of 8048
Thread Starter 
John,

The Philips DVD player probably doesn't have the issue. I see it with the Oppo and Panasonic, but I have to look for it and it isn't visible most of the time. Other people with other displays report differently -- some report seeing it much more often and much worse (at least with the Panasonic 'S97 player). I do not know how it will look on your display.

Paul
post #26 of 8048
johnny_marin,

For what it is worth, I've got a single chip DLP and a 106" screen and have seen no macroblocking so far. I didn't know what it was so I read several of the threads on macroblocking and found some picture examples and have not seen what was posted. I've had no evidence of macroblocking in any of the space scenes in Star Wars or any of the darker moody Imperial scenes. I also tried to find scenes in other movies with expanses of light such as sky or sand; nothing there either. If I did not experience it in those scenes, I don't know where I would.

I know macroblocking exists, I have seen pictures of it. And I don't doubt that the Faroudja FLI23xx may be prone to it in some circumstances, but I sometime think things get posted so much on this forum that they almost become a meme.
post #27 of 8048
DVD Video on DVD-R: OK
DVD Video on DVD+R: OK
Divx/XviD on CD-R: OK
Divx/Xvid on DVD+R: OK
SVCD on CD-R: OK
PAL DVD Region 6 original DVD: OK
NTSC DVD Region 1: OK
PAL VCD on CD-R: OK
NTSC VCD on CD-R: OK
JPEG pictures on CD-R: OK

These are the discs I have tested so far. It played everything I put in! Nice "Explorer" style navigation for Divx.
post #28 of 8048
It seems that Macroblocking is display dependent. If you see no problem
you are probably fine.
post #29 of 8048
Very nice Paul. You are really getting quite polished at these things.

Thanks for the effort.

RJ
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post #30 of 8048
Thread Starter 
Jeffhdz,

Thanks! I'll use that info and place in the first post.

Bytehoven.

Thank you as well. Nothing replaces seeing a player in person but I hope this information make a good starting point.

Paul
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