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post #12361 of 12461
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Originally Posted by Muse View Post

Gotta solve the lip synch issue, of course.

Muse,

I might have a little insight on your lip-sync issue.

There is one station in my area, WBBZ, that carries two subchannels, one a 4:3 copy of the main
and THiS. It is remote even for Welland and Fort Erie and I've noticed that when I'm just on the brink
of losing the signal, there occurs l-s problems but as soon as an inversion hits or some other weather
phenom the signal strength improves and l-s problem disappears.

It also occurs on a couple of weaker Canadian stations that haven't learned their lesson on power levels.
So for me it is the quality of the incoming signal that determines when it happens.
post #12362 of 12461
Ah, well, with me when a lip synch issue comes up (and I almost never watch live TV, only timeshifted TV) I can fix it by pressing the pause button (or play button, AFAIK they have the same function in MyHD, it just toggles pause/play on each press) multiple times. Just how many times varies considerably. Sometimes when I'm lucky it's maybe 6-7 times. Often its more like 10 times, maybe more. I never know how many times. Of course doing that is quite annoying, it interrupts the process, the experience. Often I give up before I get a perfect synch, I make do with an acceptable synch. I mean it's like how much annoyance am i going to put up with to achieve a perfect synch when I'm going to lose it again if I REW or FFD at some point. I never know if I'm going to lose synch when I REW or FFD, it happens sometimes but not usually, then I have to resynch if I can't stand it. Of course, some kinds of programs it's not something you notice because you aren't watching people talking! I've seen people saying here (Terry, I think) that they've never experienced any lip synch issues using MyHD, which has me thinking that it's equipment related, my motherboard in particular. I suppose that my PCI sound card is a possible contributing factor, it's drivers. I've tried several versions of the driver but that didn't turn out to be a solution. I'm due for a new motherboard. Thanks for that post you made a few weeks ago, Browncoat, suggesting CPU/mobo combinations, the AMD, etc. I'm going to look into that. If the motherboard is reasonably upgradable, I think I'll go that route. Really, my desktop PCs are pretty antiquated. Indeed my HTPC has only 2GB RAM. My impression is that the MyHD cards don't use system resources, that they use their own resources, in particular processing power, one thing I really like.
post #12363 of 12461
I was going to try using a DVI daughter card in my 130 and noticed the only PCI slot is at the far end of my MB where the 130 is located. The rest are PCIe slots and no way to move my card over. Is there any way for this daughter card to be installed on the other side of the 130 with a jumper cable?

If this can happen is there any problem running 1080p with the pass through?
Edited by lovebohn - 3/30/13 at 7:19pm
post #12364 of 12461
The daughter card does not need a PCI (or any) slot. It just needs the paddleboard I/O slot on the back of the case, of which there is often one beyond the end of the motherboard. Take another look and you'll probably find that you can mount the daughter board on the MDP-130 hanging over the side of the motherboard in that "extra" I/O slot on the case.

EDIT: Yes, you can pass through the 1080p (or even higher rez) desktop image.
post #12365 of 12461
Sorry if that came out wrong. I agree it doesn't need a spot on the MB just an open slot to the right (if your looking at the card). On my MB the only PCI slot is the last position and no room past it. This is a Intel DQ35JO board. I guess I'm SOL on this feature?

post #12366 of 12461
The case doesn't have any room past this since it's at the very bottom

post #12367 of 12461
I see the problem...your case is too short. wink.gif If you were to put that motherboard into a full tower case you'd have the room needed for the daughter board, but that's likely not an option I suppose.

I have no idea if you could fashion a workable jumper cable and put the daughter board on the other side of the MDP-130. It might work, but the extra inductance of the longer wires might mess things up also.
post #12368 of 12461
I'm probably missing something really obvious here, but I'm getting the (setting time is overlapped) error when trying to schedule a program to record on Ant 1, while another program is scheduled to record at the same time on Ant 2.

Ideas?
post #12369 of 12461
The "obvious" thing that you're missing is that you only have one tuner to share between those two antennas. wink.gif
post #12370 of 12461
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

The "obvious" thing that you're missing is that you only have one tuner to share between those two antennas. wink.gif

D'OH!

Stupid brian damage!!!

rolleyes.gif

Thanks Terry.
post #12371 of 12461
Hi gang,

Seems to me the reason that I never upgraded my computer to dual processors was because MyHD software does not support it. Well I ran across a dual core processor that fit in my A8V Deluxe mobo, so I updated my bios to one that supports dual processors, and then slapped in the dual core CPU. To my amazement I can view my channels! Is anyone else running dual core CPUs and are there any limitations, or I'm just having another senior moment?


Homer
post #12372 of 12461
Welcome to the elderly ranks, Homer. wink.gif

Most MyHD functions work just as well on multicore PCs, but there are some critical exceptions, such as file play over the LAN and DVD playback. There's a full list in the MetaFAQ.
post #12373 of 12461
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Welcome to the elderly ranks, Homer. wink.gif

Most MyHD functions work just as well on multicore PCs, but there are some critical exceptions, such as file play over the LAN and DVD playback. There's a full list in the MetaFAQ.
++


Checked the meta-faq pages and it all comes back to me now so haven't totally lost it yet. I did not upgrade to dual CPUs about 6 years ago because back then I was still using D-VHS tapes to record from a cable firewire converter box. No longer using tape, but for last few years have been using HomerHD with Cliff's EPG, although my EPG subscription has expired and has not been renewed.

Now, the big dual core obstacle for me is playing over LAN --> to be perfectly clear: Please confirm that with dual core I can still record a show through CWG, but can not simultaneously watch same show on my basement computer over LAN with MyHD's software? Also, slightly different scenario, how about if the recording is on the same computer as the computer that I want to view simultaneously, then I should have no problem viewing through MyHD, correct? Maybe I have lost it.confused.gif




Woody
Edited by a8vdeluxe - 6/19/13 at 10:07am
post #12374 of 12461
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Originally Posted by a8vdeluxe View Post


++


Checked the meta-faq pages and it all comes back to me now so haven't totally lost it yet. I did not upgrade to dual CPUs about 6 years ago because back then I was still using D-VHS tapes to record from a cable firewire converter box. No longer using tape, but for last few years have been using HomerHD with Cliff's EPG, although my EPG subscription has expired and has not been renewed.

Now, the big dual core obstacle for me is playing over LAN --> to be perfectly clear: Please confirm that with dual core I can still record a show through CWG, but can not simultaneously watch same show on my basement computer over LAN with MyHD's software? Also, slightly different scenario, how about if the recording is on the same computer as the computer that I want to view simultaneously, then I should have no problem viewing through MyHD, correct? Maybe I have lost it.confused.gif




Woody

Hi,

 

Wow, please tell me more. I have been paying $25 / Year and just sent SD another $25 this month. CW_EPG is a dead duck without the EPG AFAIK.  (The program listings are great and well worth the $25 / Year. I dread the day when SD stops, there are some free listings but the CW_EPG team may not want to spend the time switching.)

 

I have four HDHR tuners. While I am doing my recordings to a local disk, HDHR recording to my NAS would work just fine. MyHD capturing to the NAS cannot be done. (NAS = Network Attached Storage)

 

MyHD will not play any captures on my NAS, as I often am reminded when I try. But no problem, moving the capture to my local disk is just takes a minute or two.

 

I have had a dual core CPU in my HDHR for ~ six years and have been using both CPUs as I do not have the D-VHS tape equipment and play DVD's using a  DVD player.

 

 

Quote:
I can still record a show through CWG, but can not simultaneously watch same show on my basement computer over LAN with MyHD's software?

 

MyHD can not play back a capture until the capture is finished, local disk dual CPU tested (or network with a single CPU). Same for Fusion, nasty failure.

 

VLC Media play will, and I do it all the time, play a capture that has not completed. If you catch up VLC will close.

 


HomerHD = HD Home run right?

 

Cliff's EPG = CW_EPG also correct?

 

SHF


Edited by SFischer1 - 6/19/13 at 12:49pm
post #12375 of 12461
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Originally Posted by SFischer1 View Post

Hi,

Wow, please tell me more. I have been paying $25 / Year and just sent SD another $25 this month. CW_EPG is a dead duck without the EPG AFAIK.  (The program listings are great and well worth the $25 / Year. I dread the day when SD stops, there are some free listings but the CW_EPG team may not want to spend the time switching.)

I have four HDHR tuners. While I am doing my recordings to a local disk, HDHR recording to my NAS would work just fine. MyHD capturing to the NAS cannot be done. (NAS = Network Attached Storage)

MyHD will not play any captures on my NAS, as I often am reminded when I try. But no problem, moving the capture to my local disk is just takes a minute or two.

I have had a dual core CPU in my HDHR for ~ six years and have been using both CPUs as I do not have the D-VHS tape equipment and play DVD's using a  DVD player.




 
MyHD can not play back a capture until the capture is finished, local disk dual CPU tested (or network with a single CPU). Same for Fusion, nasty failure.

VLC Media play will, and I do it all the time, play a capture that has not completed. If you catch up VLC will close.

HomerHD = HD Home run right? RIGHT

Cliff's EPG = CW_EPG also correct? RIGHT

SHF


Fish, sorry I did not mean to imply that I could record without SD subscription. CW-EPG is a dead fish (no pun intended) without sub, and the simple HDhomerun live viewer is all I have without the sub. Also, thanks for confirming MyHD playing over LAN seneriaos.

With a single core CPU I could always watch the live recording by clicking on the file and it would automatically open up MyHD and start playing. I always had to stay behind at least a few seconds otherwise it would start playing from the beginning. So now it sounds like that with dual CPUs I will not be able to watch recordings in progress on MyHD?



Homer
Edited by a8vdeluxe - 6/19/13 at 1:49pm
post #12376 of 12461
Homer, I'm away from my PC just now and cannot test this, but IIRC you can play in-progress recordings on MyHD (regardless of number of CPUs) as long as the recording is on a local HDD.
post #12377 of 12461
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Homer, I'm away from my PC just now and cannot test this, but IIRC you can play in-progress recordings on MyHD (regardless of number of CPUs) as long as the recording is on a local HDD.

Hi Terry,

 

There is a possibility that a MyHD capture in process may be able to be played by MyHD with only ONE CPU active.

 

I got the same BLACK video with the time increasing when I dropped a  MyHD capture still in process onto the MyHD icon that I get when I drop a file from my NAS onto the MyHD icon. This is with both CPU's active. I also tested the MyHD capture in process with right click and open with MyHD.

 

Same result dropping the HDHR capture onto the MyHD icon.

 

EDIT:

I cannot test one CPU before 17:00 and I would need to find DualBootPRO  software I paid for and install it on my HTPC. (I do not trust the MS boot editor!)

 

XP still has boot.ini, I will try after 17:00.

 

Can you give me an ETA for your test so I need not put my HTPC in peril of my fumbling fingers. 

 

SHF


Edited by SFischer1 - 6/19/13 at 3:56pm
post #12378 of 12461
Quote:
Originally Posted by a8vdeluxe View Post


Fish, sorry I did not mean to imply that I could record without SD subscription. CW-EPG is a dead fish (no pun intended) without sub, and the simple HDhomerun live viewer is all I have without the sub. Also, thanks for confirming MyHD playing over LAN seneriaos.

With a single core CPU I could always watch the live recording by clicking on the file and it would automatically open up MyHD and start playing. I always had to stay behind at least a few seconds otherwise it would start playing from the beginning. So now it sounds like that with dual CPUs I will not be able to watch recordings in progress on MyHD?



Homer

Hi,

 

You may have done the test that is needed to be done with one CPU only with MyHD doing both a capture and playing it back.

 

I have a very vague memory that it may work, but it has been so long ago that I have had only one CPU.

 

Two or more CPU's, no go for sure.

 


SiliconDust's live HDTV viewer has been so buggy that I have always used VLC Media player instead. Does it have a display of the stations EPG (Sent over the air) like Fusion does. That is how I scheduled the Fusion capture.

 

While CW_EPG controls the HDHR capture scheduling,  SiliconDust's software does the actual capture.

 

Thus there may be other software that can record from the HDHR tuner.

 

Windows Media Center is one that can do it.

 

EDIT:

 

 http://www.nextpvr.com/

 

Looks like one that would do the captures.

 

SHF


Edited by SFischer1 - 6/19/13 at 4:02pm
post #12379 of 12461
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Originally Posted by SFischer1 View Post

Can you give me an ETA for your test so I need not put my HTPC in peril of my fumbling fingers.
Sorry, I won't be able to try it until next week sometime.
post #12380 of 12461
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post


Sorry, I won't be able to try it until next week sometime.

Hi Terry,

 

Well as it was boot.ini on XP, which I have edited many times before, I went ahead and did the "/ONECPU" test.

 

I did not get the results I expected. "/ONECPU" verified using task manager.

 

MyHD did NOT respond to either dropping the capture file onto the icon or right clicking the .tp file and selecting open with MyHD.

 

Nothing happened, not even the BLACK video with time increasing which I got with both CPUs active.

 

I was able to play a capture from my NAS as expected which gives the BLACK video with time increasing with both CPUs active.

 


Note: Microsoft Security Essentials gives a BSOD when Real Time protection is turned on and file buffer ahead is also messed up.

 

Just two reasons I was willing to take the chance with my fumbling fingers, I want to wipe the HDD clean and start over. (~ 2-3 Hours to get back to CW_EPG normal operation by 22:30.)


Homer:

 

If you have installed the new dual CPU, then unless Terry reports a different result, I suggest not playing with boot.ini.

 

In refreshing my memory on how to edit boot.ini I found a lot of bad advice, lots from Microsoft even.

 

You do know that you might need to buy XP again when you replace the CPU.

 

SHF

post #12381 of 12461
I haven't forgotten about this...but I'm going to have to make some hardware changes to perform any tests (my MyHD rigs currently have no directly connected displays) and my day job is keeping me extraordinarly busy this month so it will be a while before I can get to that.
post #12382 of 12461
Terry, guys, many of you are running MyHD in windows seven 32-bit,
but are the programs, the MyHD driver/support application and the Play List Manager
32 bit or 16 bit?

Here's where I'm confused;
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/316-compatibility-mode.html
Quote:
32 bit Windows has emulation for 16 bit programs built in. 64-bit Windows only has emulation for 32 bit programs.
If the program ran on 32-bit Windows 7 and not 64 bit, then chances are it's a 16 bit program and you may have to
use something like DosBox or XP Mode to be able to run it in 64-bit Windows.

For I would like to go full 64 on the new workstation.
Also one *ahem* "distro" that calls itself "Windows 8 Extreme Edition"
based on W8 Pro has returned to a start button, no metro UI, looks tempting,
but the need to re-activate every 180 days is keeping me away from that one.
Plus with stuff like the free "Classic Shell"/"Classic Start" utility again makes
8 tempting but still staying away.

Lastly, myself, as well as others, on other boards, are waiting for Windows 9,
to see if M$ returns to a true desktop, with support for legacy h/w,s/w............
rather than the tablet-aimed Fisher-Price-like 8.

(and boy! the more I stay away,the more the admin change AVS!!!)

..and yep, still on XP SP3 on the old Pentium box.
post #12383 of 12461
Bruce, the issue is not with the MyHD program, but with its drivers, which are 32 bit. Forget about MyHD if you're moving to a 64-bit Windows, it won't work period.
post #12384 of 12461
Well friends, after 7+ years of ownership I have decided to part with my beloved MDP-130.

It was purchased from Digital Connection back in 2006, along with the DVI daughtercard.

The MyHD MDP-130 and DVI daughtercard combo were used in my first HTPC build, which served primarily as a DVR. The HTPC was used from 2006 to 2012.

When I retired that HTPC (after building another), I put the MyHD MDP-130 and the DVI daughtercard back in their original boxes (which I kept, along with all documentation and support software). They both worked perfectly right up to the day I retired them last year. There has never been a single problem with them in 6 years of use.

Initially I thought I might use the MyHD products in another build. However, ever since I started using Windows 7 x64 in my latest HTPC (along with HDHomerun devices controlled with CW_EPG), I realize now that I probably will never again go back to Windows XP x86 (32-bit), which, as we know, is the OS on which this MyHD product works best.

As I still have great affection for the MDP-130 (I remain subscribed to this thread even though I stopped using it), I would like to sell mine (the MDP-130 + DVI daughtercard) to someone who will give them a "good home". And since it seems that there are still a few XP holdouts that hang out here, I figure that someone reading here would be willing to oblige smile.gif

So if anyone is interested, please PM me with any questions (price is negotiable, pictures available upon request). And many thanks to the group here for all the years of support you provided while I used this still excellent product.

*EDIT*
(To the Moderator: If this post is inappropriate here, I apologize in advance and understand if it gets deleted.)
Edited by Vlad Theimpaler - 8/12/13 at 12:53pm
post #12385 of 12461
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post

Well friends, after 7+ years of ownership I have decided to part with my beloved MDP-130.

Understand your sentiment, my first was the MDP-100 at work. Was purchased (Digital Connection) right after they were made available. Soon afterward purchased one for personal use, later replaced it with two MDP-120's/DVI cards. They were finally replaced by thee MDP-130's/DVI cards (one in HTPC, other two in office PC's). Alas, with PBS switching to DVB-S2 and H.264 last summer the one in the HTPC rarely gets used anymore, it was used mainly for playback of H.262. Still use one all the time in the office PC but its days may be numbered.

Built a new office PC with a ASUS P8Z77-V LE and Windows 8 Pro. Purchased a Hauppauge Win-TV-HVR-1250 but have not installed it yet. If it works out OK then it will become the main recording device because VideoReDo is a fair amount faster on the Ivy Bridge PC. The old XP computer CPU stays at 100% if I try to edit H.264 with VideoReDo, the Ivy Bridge PC uses about 20% CPU with the same file. However, I plan to keep and continue to use my XP machines for day to day general use.

A big thanks goes to the folks that made Classic Shell available for Windows 8. Now my Windows 8 looks almost like my classic Windows XP machines.
post #12386 of 12461
Hey why would video from a previously record HD channel not show up on my display. I haven't been watching my recorded OTA HD on the PC lately (saved to NAS and played with a media player in the living room). I can still watch live HDTV with the card just fine, but if i go into my NAS to watch a show i get a black screen with no audio but you can see the time changing like it's playing. I did update to a newer LCD monitor with HDMI input, but I still have a VGA feed coming from the MyHD card. I can watch live HD with either one. Why no video with the recorded files? This setup has worked fine for years and I feel like it did even after I bought the new monitor...any thoughts?

XP Pro OS.
post #12387 of 12461
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Originally Posted by lovebohn View Post

Hey why would video from a previously record HD channel not show up on my display. I haven't been watching my recorded OTA HD on the PC lately (saved to NAS and played with a media player in the living room).
...

Hi, because MyHD was not designed to play captures from a Network source like your NAS.

 

If I want to play a capture on my NAS using MyHD I first copy or move the capture to a local disk on my HTPC.

 

The black screen always will show up for a Network file when you have more than one CPU enabled.

 

No Can Do unless you switch to ONE CPU only, then it will work.

 

SHF

post #12388 of 12461
I'm 99% sure this has worked for years with no issues. The NAS is mapped so it appears like an internal drive.
post #12389 of 12461
Unless your HTPC uses only one CPU, MyHD will behave precisely as you describe when playing LAN files--mapped or not. I.e. Nany is right. If it worked before you had a different hardware configuration.
post #12390 of 12461
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Bruce, the issue is not with the MyHD program, but with its drivers, which are 32 bit. Forget about MyHD if you're moving to a 64-bit Windows, it won't work period.
Then I'll just play with the one DVD that has both the 32 & 64 on it before going with the other which is just 32 as final.
Well, right now I just can't afford to separate the second 130 from the new workstation, maybe later swap out the Sempron
for a multi . I'm almost finished the one that is
replacing the seven year old Pentium, which is why I asked the above again.

Eventually build another box or retire the one in the workstation and get HDHR, for the Sempron built last fall to replace the eMachine,
the smallest unit is only 80 bucks CDN now. (newegg.ca) and would be cheaper than starting a new build.

Edited by browncoat - 8/17/13 at 8:34am
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