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post #31 of 36
Ray, you did mean BRINGING OUT THE DEAD, didn't you? I wasn't wild about it either. I think CTHD is over-rated, but it's not a lousy movie by any means. I know very little about Chinese mysticism. I am intrested in the mind-set on the other side of the Pacific. CTHD was, for me, a start. All films that we don't fancy are not lousy. You'll get over your disappointment in the film. It's still an above average film IMO. Best wishes!

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post #32 of 36
Re Battlefield Earth, I note that there were over 10 books in the series... http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif

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post #33 of 36
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Oops My bad
Yes I meant Bringing Out The Dead.
Ray


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post #34 of 36
The thing about this film is that, to me anyway, it represents the pinnacle of a genre. It certainly doesn't have the BEST martial arts sequences in the world (though they were excellent), but it has a very powerful story. Two stories of forbidden love, and the consequences of following or not following your heart, with a little action mixed in for good measure http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif.

I ask you to name a better all around martial arts film. I'm serious, if someone can name a better martial arts film I would really like to see it! The last time I went searching for the best martial arts film I was pointed in the direction of "Iron Monkey". While the film is certainly a blast, and one of the best, it fails to come anywhere near CTHD in the story department (and if you thought CTHD was over the top, watch this film!).
post #35 of 36
Well, martial arts movies are generally very bad (with an exception of fights themselves, which is the reason people are watching those movies). Pardon my analogy, but they are almost like porno - all stuff outside of fights just to fill screen time. CTHD is a very rare exception.

Joekun point is an excellent one- it was by far the best martial art movie I saw (again, not the fights - I'll take ol' reliable "Enter the Dragon" any day over CTHD). And if it is one's favorite genre, it is easy to understand high praises and "best movie" calls.

However for us who are not fans of this genre it was hard to believe that CTHD was directed better then, for example, "Requiem for a Dream", which was my 2000 pick. Therefore the controversy.

Comparing CTHD with "Battlefield Earth" is just plain silly. You may not like content, acting or genre of CTHD, and still enjoy music, cinematography, etc. You also can rarely see such beautiful ending in any US movie.

"Battlefield Earth", on another hand, is offensively bad and insult to people's taste and intelligence.


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post #36 of 36
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However for us who are not fans of this genre it was hard to believe that CTHD was directed better then, for example, "Requiem for a Dream", which was my 2000 pick.
I haven't seen "Requiem" yet, but intend to soon. Your point is well taken, but the same could be said of a movie like "Boogie Nights". Though the genre would probably be drama, I generally don't like films about drugs and people hitting bottom. I recognize that it was exceptionally well done, but it just doesn't fly with me.

My point is that we should recognize strides within certain types of film whether we like that type of film or not. CTHD may very well lead to bettering this genre, in which case it becomes a milestone in film history that changes the way we look at martial arts film. I can point to many films that the Academy has chosen as "Best Picture" that I don't particularly care for, but in general I can understand why people do.

So if it isn't your bag, that's cool, but "This sorta thing is my bag, baby" http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif and still my favorite film of 2000.
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