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post #121 of 5110
Those awaiting the 7700 - please post the Avia crop loss when you receive your unit.
post #122 of 5110
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Originally posted by MikeSRC
They may be using the Pixelworks deinterlacing they use on some of their other projectors. I also wonder if the Senseye processing is defeatable.

Mike........

At CES the BenQ rep told me that for the 7700 they had brought the scaler/de-interlacer "in-house" instead of buying someone else's.

Steve
post #123 of 5110
Yeah, I was told the same thing, but they said it was part of the Senseye processing, which it doesn't seem to be. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
post #124 of 5110
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Originally posted by SpeedyHTPC
Those awaiting the 7700 - please post the Avia crop loss when you receive your unit.

SpeedyHTPC,

You might want to give a brief overview of the cropping issue you observed on the PE7800 so that people know what to look for in the 7700.
post #125 of 5110
Hi, everyone

The latest on the 7700 deliveries. BenQ has had a change. I'm told that the 120 7700's on the first batch started shipping today from Taiwan, that they are being flown in and dropshipped to a half dozen of their largest direct dealers. That means that they should be "in the stores" on Monday. Fingers crossed! And that means that I won't see my eval unit until next Monday either. -art
post #126 of 5110
I know some internet dealers are already taking pre orders, i just placed one. Price was actually lower what i found on google. send me a msg if you want the info, as i cannot post it here.

This will be my first PJ ever, after going back and forth with HS51 and MT700, i think this will be up to par or better than both of them. (i hope). Its a big investment on something not even out yet. lets see
post #127 of 5110
I spoke to an internet dealer yesterday and he told me they should have them in stock next week and customers should start getting them in mid-april at the latest. He also quoted me a much more expensive price than what I was expecting.

Also - I'm curious what the differences between the Tosh MT700 and the BenQ 7700 will be (besides the scaling circuitry). It'd be nice if it was a better unit (just for competition's sake), but the two are so very similiar....
post #128 of 5110
My local dealer (San Clemente CA) (who sells on the internet), advises that their first batch has shipped (by air) from Taiwan. They expect Friday or Monday.

My understanding is that there are 110 - 120 total units coming - being split up between their 5-6 largest dealers. Whether any from this batch will make it to the distributors that feed the smaller dealers, I don't know. I was told by BenQ on Monday, that the PC distributors - like Ingram, will not have any product on the initial shipments, and after that only a few select dealers that buy from distributors will have any access at all.

As to price? I expect the selling price to be around $2999, which last I heard was probably going to be MAP (Minimum advertised Price). If anyone wants to know which dealers are getting product this, early next week, they can contact me with Private Mail. -art

Of course things keep changing - until they are here, who knows...
post #129 of 5110
It's odd that of the two projectors, Beng & Toshiba, the one with the lower MSRP is starting off with a higher price. I can buy a da-lite manual pulldown screen with the difference.
post #130 of 5110
My thoughts exactly. I'm guessing the street price will be different. I dunno. Can't wait to see.....
post #131 of 5110
Good old MSRP - if ever there was anything truly meaningless in the projector industry its that. The BenQ 8700+ lists for $7995, and you all know what that is selling for.

I just noticed An Epson business projector selling for $1899, with an $4999 list (current model). More telling is MAP pricing, but even that is crazy. When the now discontinued BenQ 8700+ was mostly selling for around $4K, MAP (minimum advertised price) was $5995. That's why everyone advertises bundles - so they would give away screen, mount cables and the kitchen sink to indicate to people what the projector's real street price was.

-art
post #132 of 5110
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Originally posted by KramerTC
It's odd that of the two projectors, Beng & Toshiba, the one with the lower MSRP is starting off with a higher price. I can buy a da-lite manual pulldown screen with the difference.

KramerTC - a quick note on the screens. If you have the budget get the sturdier Dalite Type C, the B is pretty basic. Also spring for tensioning if you are going over 100". And since you are looking at the 7700 or toshiba, I'd suggest that you go with the HC CinemaVision if available with the pull down. That's Dalite's closest to the Stewart Firehawk, which would be my first recommendation, but expensive.
post #133 of 5110
Do we need to be careful with the $$$ talk? I think its harmless but I've seen trigger fingers on the "delete thread" button before And I like this thread a lot!
post #134 of 5110
Sorry about that - my discussion was relating to MSRP issues. I specifically avoided mentioning any current model products. From what I gather, anyone wants to ask someone about specific pricing they should be using private mail?
-art
post #135 of 5110
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Originally posted by presenter
KramerTC - a quick note on the screens. If you have the budget get the sturdier Dalite Type C, the B is pretty basic. Also spring for tensioning if you are going over 100". And since you are looking at the 7700 or toshiba, I'd suggest that you go with the HC CinemaVision if available with the pull down. That's Dalite's closest to the Stewart Firehawk, which would be my first recommendation, but expensive.

I'm planning on a Model C HCMW and if I feel bold enough I may spring for an electric tensioned model from Da-Lite... the more I read about screens (and considering that I don't have a projector thus no real first hand experience) I'm leaning towards a matte white for its neutraility. If go electric tensioned I'd go for Da-Mat at 110'' diagonal. What do you think? Too dim?
post #136 of 5110
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Originally posted by KramerTC
I'm planning on a Model C HCMW and if I feel bold enough I may spring for an electric tensioned model from Da-Lite... the more I read about screens (and considering that I don't have a projector thus no real first hand experience) I'm leaning towards a matte white for its neutraility. If go electric tensioned I'd go for Da-Mat at 110'' diagonal. What do you think? Too dim?

If you are dying for an electric, and are willing to forego high contrast you can get an Elite brand motorized screen for under $400 - with remote.

They are actually very nice, and amazingly priced, but strictly Matte White. (Elite comes out of China, thus the low pricing). -art
post #137 of 5110
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My thoughts exactly. I'm guessing the street price will be different. I dunno. Can't wait to see.....

Without going into much detail I would not bank on the 7700 having a lower street than the Toshiba
post #138 of 5110
Kramer

I am using the 8700+ on a 110" piece of blackout fabric, with 1100 hours on the bulb I am just now starting to wish I had a screen with a bit of "gain"... so my guess is that the 7700 will be just fine on a "real screen." Personally I think I would pop for the Carada Brilliant White..., but that is a fixed not pull down screen.
post #139 of 5110
I'm forced to go with a pull down screen because the room isn't dedicated to HT and the screen will be in front of bookshelves.

The reason I'm thinking of going with a no-gain screen is because I have a 64'' CRT RPTV and I experience eye fatigue sometimes when I watch two movies in a row. My tv was ISF calibrated and I also used DVE so it is a fairly dim picture. But then again I've no idea how dim or bright a 110'' diagonal matte white would be for me. The only way to find out is going to have to be by trial by fire. I have large samples from da-lite but w/o a projector and no prior front projector experience...

Regarding price: limited distribution from Benq to get dealers to have this unit on their showrooms does nothing for me. The only AV dealer in town with front projection is Tweeter and they only have a Yamaha LCD on display. If it's priced higher than the Toshiba then I'll have to vote with my wallet.
post #140 of 5110
Kramer............

Consider this..........

Buy a piece of "blackout" fabric from Joann's Fabrics.... you can get a piece 96"x54" and hang it from your bookcase. Try out your projector on this and see how it looks to you... it will only cost about $15 and you will get a good idea of what a 1.0 screen will look like... I do not know exactly how the screen compares, but when I was comparing about 8 samples to the blackout cloth my guess would be that the blackout cloth is somewhere between .95 and 1.0

Use this piece of cloth as your zero and compare it with the samples you get from the various screen manufacturers.
post #141 of 5110
Thanks HiHoStevo,
That's a very good sugestion. I think I will do that first before spending any money on a screen.
post #142 of 5110
There's also a matte white board at Home Depot made by "Do-able". It's by the pegboard. When I taped Da-lite Matte White to it I couldn't see a difference. And it's 20% cheaper at $12. The only negative is you can get it up only up to 96"x48". Still it's a bit easier to work with then black out cloth since you don't have to deal with stretching it out.
post #143 of 5110
FlyingGimp,

In what section is this pegboard found at HD? I feel like a dumbass. I read about this pegboard in the DIY screen forum and went looking for it but couldn't find it.

Edit: reread your post... next to the pegboards... not a pegboard... duh... thanks.
post #144 of 5110
I guess this is still a waiting game on this unit, they are still starting to come in this week right?
post #145 of 5110
I am a novice at this PJ stuff, but I am wondering why anyone would wait on this PJ when the Toshiba is already out.

I decided to get a PJ while watching the Super Bowl this year, so I started reading about PJ's on this forum and I read about the BenQ 7700 and decided this is the one I was going to get. I knew about the Toshiba as well, but I assumed that since BenQ was making both, that the BenQ would release first so I would get the BenQ. Then to my surprise the Toshiba released first so I ordered it b/c:
1. It was available first
2. We now find out the Toshiba seems to be cheaper by maybe ~$300(I also assumed the Toshiba would be higher than the OEM????) - 2nd false assumption
3. The only known difference is that the Toshiba had an interlace chip from that Japanese company I can't spell which is very highly respected while BenQ did some internal unknown/unproven/cheaper way.

Like I said I was going to buy which ever came first b/c I wanted to have my room setup by the Masters in HD, so I would have bought the BenQ w/o any hesitation, but w/ the above points why is anyone waiting? Is there some reason(s) I am clueless about?

The painting is be done in the next two days so my goal of the Masters on Saturday is within reach.
post #146 of 5110
I'm waiting until they are compared head-to-head. I won't miss the Masters in HD because I already have a projector (though not 720p DLP... yet...). I'm never one to buy the first run, latest and greatest. I don't like being a guinea pig when it's that much $$$. Same reason I don't buy cars that have changed the model significantly (this is from experience, btw, not just theory).

Anyway, if I didn't have a PJ yet (or, for example, my PJ got destroyed or stolen) I'd probably get the Toshiba now. I just have the luxury of waiting.
post #147 of 5110
I agree with Milt, I am not just going to jump on the Toshiba, How can you say that the toshiba is less expensive than a projector that is not even out yet, Prices fluctuate on projectors more than any other product on the market, just because BenQ has a listed a MSRP that does not mean that they will stick to it, and if they do it may only be for a month or two, I just got the drywall in my theater hung this weekend so Im not in any hurry, it is better for me to wait til I am near ready to Hang one before I buy, that and I also want to see them compared head to head before I decide
post #148 of 5110
That's an even better reason, Travis. It's almost always best to wait until the last minute of building a dedicated theater to buy the projector (unless you're enjoying one elsewhere in the house).
post #149 of 5110
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for this projector?

There's no mention of the length of the warranty on Benq's website (selected the US region) while the 8700 and 7800 have the 3 yr warranty which includes the hot-swap during the first year.
post #150 of 5110
Just seen a 7700 today. A few observations:
1) It's very quiet. Definitely more quiet than Sharp Z2000.
2) The build is gd. Much better than its earlier "low end" models like 7800. The pearl white surface with the silver side makes it look gd.
3) There is no apparent light spill from either side or front. ( I put my hands in front of it and dun see any light)
4) The manul content looks extremely similar to the one of Tosh MT700 posted in the other thread ! The throw table is identical!
5) the remote also looks the same.

Sorry can't comment anything on the PQ as it's just out of the box in a dealer room with no light control.
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