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post #2071 of 2324
11/5/07 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

I am getting ready to sell my 1015 and just wanted to get some opinions on how much I should ask for it. It is in great shape and I believe I may even have 2 years left on my extended warranty (I still have to find my paper work to confirm this though).

It is indeed a great receiver and I am only selling to get some new bells and whistles.

Thanks!

Thats one of the best receivers pioneer has released in the 101X line. Everything since doesn't come close imo. If I were you I'd seriously reconsider getting rid of it just for a few updated features. Nothing is more important than SQ no matter how many bells you have and for the price or anywhere near, providing it's in good condition, it's going to be a hard one to replace as for SQ.

Now that I'm through preaching , if you must sell it, do a search for ebays ended listings items for the 1015, that should give you some idea, might research craigsliste and audiogon also. That should get you a good ball park figure.
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post #2072 of 2324
11/5/07 at 9:45am
Thanks! I agree, it is a great receiver but hopefully I won't be losing ant SQ.

I am going to be replacing it with a Onkyo TX-SR605 as I really need HDMI switching and it will play nicely with my HD-DVD player.
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post #2073 of 2324
11/5/07 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

Thanks! I agree, it is a great receiver but hopefully I won't be losing ant SQ.

I am going to be replacing it with a Onkyo TX-SR605 as I really need HDMI switching and it will play nicely with my HD-DVD player.

ehhh, the 605 is a excellent receiver at the price, I'm not knocking it in any way as for SQ in comparison, If I were u I'd do my own test first. Get the 605 before you sell the 1015, at least you have a 30 day trial period on the 605 and can make a wise choice and won't be saying I want it BACKKKKK.

Been there, done that. I sold a receiver once and regretting it ever since. I've even offerd to buy it back for 3x the price and I just get a big HELL NO every time.

PS, I totally agree with Smarty, I was just trying to be nice about it. I really think you should reconsider or at least give them an objective comparison first. HDMI on the 605 isn't worth what your giving up imo.
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post #2074 of 2324
11/5/07 at 9:55am
Add an HDMI switcher then. The 605 is a downgrade from the 1015 in many ways. Now if you were going to an 805, that would be an upgrade. You can get a great HDMI switch-box for pretty cheap.
Because of the popularity of HDMI switching receivers (ahem...cough), the resale price of receivers like the 1015 are going down rapidly. If you were to eBay it, after fees paid etc..., I wouldn't expect you to pocket more than $200. Earlier this year I picked up a 1014 for about $165 including s/h. That is what I am still using in my theater till I can afford to do a substantial upgrade.
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post #2075 of 2324
11/5/07 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Jakeman02 View Post

ehhh, the 605 is a excellent receiver at the price, I'm not knocking it in any way as for SQ in comparison, If I were u I'd do my own test first. Get the 605 before you sell the 1015, at least you have a 30 day trial period on the 605 and can make a wise choice and won't be saying I want it BACKKKKK.

Been there, done that. I sold a receiver once and regretting it ever since. I've even offerd to buy it back for 3x the price and I just get a big HELL NO every time.

Good point! I will hang on to the 1015 until I make sure that I actually want to keep the 605.
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post #2076 of 2324
11/29/07 at 10:13am
Im having a problem with the Auto MCACC right now. I have a 5.1 surround setup, but i screwed up my sub while trying to open it :\\. So now i want to have a setup without the sub. But everytime i try to use Auto MCACC i get an ERROR on the Sub Woofer setting. I set Sub to None in the 4a menu, but i still get an Error when i use Auto.

Any recommendations?
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post #2077 of 2324
11/29/07 at 10:47am
Also, should i set all my speakers to LARGE if not using a subwoofer?
I have
Energy C-500 as Fronts
Energy C-C100 as Center
Energy C-R100 as Rears
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post #2078 of 2324
11/29/07 at 4:16pm
Try the LARGE setting.. It shouldnt matter what your speakers are, you still want to lower you base settings using them..
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post #2079 of 2324
12/20/07 at 3:06am
Hi Guys,
I love my 1015TX. I'm a fairly tech savy guy for 37 but there are a few things I dont understand about it that I could use some help with, namely the EQ. I normally listen to music in 7ch stereo. I used to listen to it in game mode as it sounds the least compressed. Most of the other settings do sound compressed a bit. I wondered if anyone with this reciever who knows it inside and out could help me master it. 13kHz would be the higher frequncies and 40Hz would be the low end I presume. Would it make sence to do a classic V slope to get to good sound. I didnt like the was the MCACC set my my EQ, it was to uneven and a bit bright for me. I do tend to like more trebble than bass but it was just too much. Anyways, if anyone wants to give me a call and help me walk thru these settings that would be way cool. Thanks

George
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post #2080 of 2324
12/20/07 at 3:30am
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Originally Posted by ducktailjiver View Post

Hi Guys,
I love my 1015TX. I'm a fairly tech savy guy for 37 but there are a few things I dont understand about it that I could use some help with, namely the EQ. I normally listen to music in 7ch stereo. I used to listen to it in game mode as it sounds the least compressed. Most of the other settings do sound compressed a bit. I wondered if anyone with this reciever who knows it inside and out could help me master it. 13kHz would be the higher frequncies and 40Hz would be the low end I presume. Would it make sence to do a classic V slope to get to good sound. I didnt like the was the MCACC set my my EQ, it was to uneven and a bit bright for me. I do tend to like more trebble than bass but it was just too much. Anyways, if anyone wants to give me a call and help me walk thru these settings that would be way cool. Thanks

George

Game mode rocks - that setting is on no other Pioneer and music literally sounds new, thankfully bypassing the center channel. I've tried their Elite 72x and 92x but had to return them because of they simply didn't have that singular Game mode - I hope this receiver outlives me! Anyway make sure Loudness is off, and of course you can always turn on the MCACC and go into the settings and manually tone down the treble.
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post #2081 of 2324
12/20/07 at 9:18am
I also found the MCACC settings to be weak on the dB in the hi frequencies and low frequencies so I went in and increased them for every channel. Now I am much happier with the depth of the sound. I also agree that Loudness should be OFF.
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post #2082 of 2324
1/19/08 at 8:51am
Hey, guys, got a dumb question, how does the 1015tX stack up against the 1017TXv-K?
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post #2083 of 2324
1/19/08 at 8:53am
In a nutshell, the 1017 has HDMI inputs (video pass thru only, no audio) and the 1015 has a mosfet amp. Other than some minor differences, they are very similar.
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post #2084 of 2324
1/19/08 at 9:35am
Mosfet amps are better IMHO .
I'm getting ready to sell mt 1014 if anyone is interested. I love the receiver, but I'm moving up to HDMI components.
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post #2085 of 2324
1/26/08 at 9:00am
anyone notice a signifigant difference when passing Dolby Tru Hd or DD + thru the 5.1 anaolgs vs. spdif optical? I could not hear any real difference myself. Thinking about upgrading to the Onkyo 605 or 705
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post #2086 of 2324
1/26/08 at 9:09am
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anyone notice a signifigant difference when passing Dolby Tru Hd or DD + thru the 5.1 anaolgs vs. spdif optical? I could not hear any real difference myself. Thinking about upgrading to the Onkyo 605 or 705

This receiver doesn't do Tru HD.
You are simply getting DD 5.1 from the sending device even though you have it set to Tru HD.
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post #2087 of 2324
1/26/08 at 9:17am
shab...

"passing Dolby Tru Hd or DD + thru the 5.1 anaolgs vs. spdif optical?"

As noted you aren't getting any hd audio via coax/optical in. That is the way it works not just because you have a 1015. I also have a 1015. Just upgraded to a Yamaha 1800.

However using 5.1 multi-channel in you can utilitize a hd video unit, bluray or hd-dvd, to internally decode the hd audio and then send it out via analog to your 1015. You will get the HD audio that way. For me the problem is the 1015's implementation of multi-channel in. Its not an assignable port. It is on or off. It works great. Just not very flexible.

I had an A35 for hd-dvd and now a BD30 for bluray. I did listen to the analog-multi channel route. Sounded quite good and you would not be dissappointed.

However with the Yamaha 1800 using hd audio via hdmi, everything just sounds better. Even non-hd audio like dd 5.1 and dts.

I have come to respect the 1015 a great deal. It has been a friend for a long time. Planning on keeping it. It is not however up to the new HD Audio IF you want to fully enjoy the hd audio. You will enjoy it, it will sound great through the 1015. Just not fully. If that makes any sense.
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post #2088 of 2324
1/26/08 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

shab...

"passing Dolby Tru Hd or DD + thru the 5.1 anaolgs vs. spdif optical?"

As noted you aren't getting any hd audio via coax/optical in. That is the way it works not just because you have a 1015. I also have a 1015. Just upgraded to a Yamaha 1800.

However using 5.1 multi-channel in you can utilitize a hd video unit, bluray or hd-dvd, to internally decode the hd audio and then send it out via analog to your 1015. You will get the HD audio that way. For me the problem is the 1015's implementation of multi-channel in. Its not an assignable port. It is on or off. It works great. Just not very flexible.

I had an A35 for hd-dvd and now a BD30 for bluray. I did listen to the analog-multi channel route. Sounded quite good and you would not be dissappointed.

However with the Yamaha 1800 using hd audio via hdmi, everything just sounds better. Even non-hd audio like dd 5.1 and dts.

I have come to respect the 1015 a great deal. It has been a friend for a long time. Planning on keeping it. It is not however up to the new HD Audio IF you want to fully enjoy the hd audio. You will enjoy it, it will sound great through the 1015. Just not fully. If that makes any sense.


Thank you very much for the input! I also have a Tosh XA2 that passes all the hd audio as it decodes and sends thru the 5.1 out's. I just did not realy hear any difference in the audio, perhaps I should turn the "loudness" setting of, would that give me more "pure" sound?

I appreciate the feedback
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post #2089 of 2324
1/26/08 at 9:53am
shab...

"...perhaps I should turn the "loudness" setting of, would that give me more "pure" sound?"

I don't want to go there: "Loudness impact on "Pure"."

I would suggest running the MACC again and then rechecking the speaker settings and sw output. On my 1015 it always sets my center channel to Large, it is better at Small, and it sets the SW just a few db too low for my liking.
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post #2090 of 2324
1/26/08 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

shab...

"...perhaps I should turn the "loudness" setting of, would that give me more "pure" sound?"

I don't want to go there: "Loudness impact on "Pure"."

I would suggest running the MACC again and then rechecking the speaker settings and sw output. On my 1015 it always sets my center channel to Large, it is better at Small, and it sets the SW just a few db too low for my liking.

I will definately try when I get home from work, running the MACC again, thanx!!!
Do you have your Loudness on or off?
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post #2091 of 2324
1/28/08 at 6:49am
Rule of thumb for me, always keep the loudness off.
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post #2092 of 2324
1/28/08 at 7:48am
Loudness was off. Not using it now as I was. But loudness was off. Remember that Loudness is mostly targeted for low volume listening. Boosts are designed to compensate at the lower volume. I did not use it at low volume all that much as it was mostly movies or when I wanted the sound to be loud enough that loudness was not a good idea, like when watching football games,etc.

If you need to compensate for some frequeny issues, using MACC and the equalizer probably better idea than loudness.
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post #2093 of 2324
1/29/08 at 7:48am
I have just discovered watching a Blu Ray movie in the "game mode" delivers excellent sound. An example would be watching "Ladder 49", in the intro scene, I could hear the footsteps of the fireman in the background, where it is not as noticable in the Dolby Pro logic II surround (when I hit auto surround on the remote)

Just an observation
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post #2094 of 2324
2/1/08 at 6:24pm
I have the 1015tx connected to a 5.1 speaker setup. When I play a dolby digital ex or dts-es source from dvd or bluray, the display on the receiver always shows just dolby digital or dts....never ex or es. I've tried every setting I can find. My dvd player and bluray player are both connected through toslink optical. What am I missing? Why does the receiver never recognize the source as dd-ex or dts-es? Thanks.
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post #2095 of 2324
2/1/08 at 6:37pm
Probably because you have your system configured inside the receiver as 5.1, which as you stated already your speaker system IS 5.1.
An ES or EX soundtrack is 6.1 and/or 7.1.
You will not be able to take advantage of those type of soundtracks until you upgrade your speaker system to 6.1 or 7.1.
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post #2096 of 2324
2/1/08 at 7:10pm
Well adding another speaker isn't an option at this point, so I'll stick with just the 5.1 and 2 fewer letters on the display. Thanks for the fast response.
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post #2097 of 2324
2/2/08 at 8:38am
I would recommend trying the "advanced game mode" and see what you think of the audio. I do have 7.1 setup in my home, and I think it sounds FANTASTIC
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post #2098 of 2324
2/2/08 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by shabre View Post

I would recommend trying the "advanced game mode" and see what you think of the audio. I do have 7.1 setup in my home, and I think it sounds FANTASTIC

I'll have to mess with the advanced surround modes again. For movies I usually use THX Cinema or just the standard DD or dts. For music I like "7 channel stereo" or "pro logic II music".

For some reason I can't enable "THX HOME" mode unless I push the "Listening Mode" button on the receiver. Pressing the THX button on the remote only gives me "THX Cinema" with a DD or dts source. Is there any real difference between the two?
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post #2099 of 2324
2/2/08 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by CGND View Post

I'll have to mess with the advanced surround modes again. For movies I usually use THX Cinema or just the standard DD or dts. For music I like "7 channel stereo" or "pro logic II music".

For some reason I can't enable "THX HOME" mode unless I push the "Listening Mode" button on the receiver. Pressing the THX button on the remote only gives me "THX Cinema" with a DD or dts source. Is there any real difference between the two?

Just a guess but its likely the mode is limited again due to the speakers connected as "true" THX I believe requires 7.1. The manual likely goes into detail about it.
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post #2100 of 2324
2/16/08 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by shabre View Post

I would recommend trying the "advanced game mode" and see what you think of the audio. I do have 7.1 setup in my home, and I think it sounds FANTASTIC

I just tried it and could'nt agree anymore. However while on normal dialog, the sound comes with a (very) little echo. You can notice it if you switch between Adv. Game and Standard settings.
Someone mentioned earlier about central channel bypass. Does center channel get bypassed when using adv. game? That could be an explanation of the echo.
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