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post #1111 of 17193
G.B. - See first post for menu settings by a couple of owners.


JP2- I remember you saying that you ended up not tweaking the grey scale on your 006 because the "warm" setting was so close to 6500k across the scale, based on your Colorfacts equipment. Was that the reason?

I have an ISF calibration scheduled in a couple of weeks, but am wondering if it is really worth the $$$ considering that the warm color temp. preset seems to be pretty much dead-on to 6500K. I am also very happy with the picture I have right now.

My calibrator did a great job with my previous RPTV (a CRT), but I'm wondering how much improvement is really possible with this set considering there are no geometry, convergence, or focusing issues that require tweaking, and the grey scale looks to be very, very good out of the box on the 'warm' setting. I guess the question is what exactly can an ISF calibration do to improve on a great picture? I know how to set the basic controls myself using DVE or Avia.
post #1112 of 17193
ColorTV must not have seen my question. I noticed they had a 1250VA (vs. 1100 VA) that said it was pure sine-wave for only $13 more. Did you notice that, too?

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Originally posted by SABAlove
Color-
Thanks for the post of the belkin stuff.
post #1113 of 17193
nhey, I was just seconding the motion you had...posted earlier in the forum. You even made the template for them to have a standard to log the setting..........I wish soon we had a copy of the manual on the forum...I have the 950 XBR it lacks a lot on how to the settings. Someone said you have a better manual for this set. Thanks to A.V.S. we all worked together to get our set looking good. Umr also helped with his experience on the L.C.D.'s ...Lots of inputs on new technology like this set is very important.
post #1114 of 17193
Tripplite HT1500

This looks like an interesting UPS by Tripplite that takes up to 450 watts from attached equipment. The Qualia needs 330 watts.

http://www.tripplite.com/shared/pdf/manuals/932232.pdf
post #1115 of 17193
mpsan-
That looked like a surge protector/powerline conditioner. I did not see where it said UPS... If it IS a UPS with sine wave output at 1250VA, it's hard to see how that's not worth $13 more...
post #1116 of 17193
I talked to my concierge in Vegas about my sick Qualia and without
any questions he promptly stated that he would make the necessary
calls right now to arrange a switch-out. He promised to call me back with
the details. He did state that this was the first reported problem on the
006. My guess is the shipping experience for my TV probably jarred
something inside causing all the odd problems.
I am going to request the shipping of the second unit be handled
a whole lot more professional than the first. Something tells me that the
tour my first 006 took in the back of that Uhaul all over Oklahoma
probably didn't help it's well being. Not to mention how they must have
loaded it.
Anyway, so far so good.
Thank you all very much for the kind words and support.
This is the first time I have ever been so stressed out over a TV.
But then again, this is NOT just a TV. It's a 70" VR experience.
I will keep you all informed.

Thanks,
Martin
post #1117 of 17193
nhey,
If your ISF person is willing to take the time and teach you how to modify the settings and what each one is supposed to do, that may be worth the cost. They may even be able to tweak the set a bit better if they are able to access other sm settings. I agree with you though, I don't know how much better they could adjust this set.
brgds,
jp
post #1118 of 17193
Hi all,

In mounting the back lighting be careful about what you put on top of or on the back of any RPTV. Keep in mind that the mirror is attached to the back and it doesn't take much pressure to change the shape of the mirror and warp the image. Give it a try. Press on the top and/or back of the set and see what it does. Do it carefully though.

I am so glad to see that Sony seems to have overcome the issues that RCA, Toshiba and Philips couldn't. I had the Cineos LCoS and I could see the potential of this technology, even though the set had issues. I was such a LCoS fanboy that one member dubbed me the "LCoS Evangelist".

I still think that this is the best micro-display technology out there now.
post #1119 of 17193
sorry just found it... link below

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...uct_Id=186810#

I don't see anywhere a discussion of how long this thing lasts for... I dimly recall a formula from high-school physics that could probably shed some light on this, but I think I killed those brain cells a long time ago (college...)
post #1120 of 17193
The PDF from their site says the 1250 model battery running @ 50-100% of load will last 100 minutes and require a 12 hour recharge.

Keep in mind that these are MOV based surge protection which is not desirable to use for your high-end A/V equipment.

Look here for more details
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...76#post2421176
post #1121 of 17193
Nope, here is the one I meant...

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=186810



Quote:


Originally posted by SABAlove
mpsan-
That looked like a surge protector/powerline conditioner. I did not see where it said UPS... If it IS a UPS with sine wave output at 1250VA, it's hard to see how that's not worth $13 more...
post #1122 of 17193
...I hope you have the S/N so sometime in the future we don't get it back!

Quote:


Originally posted by Tulsa1
I talked to my concierge in Vegas about my sick Qualia and without
any questions he promptly stated that he would make the necessary
calls right now to arrange a switch-out. He promised to call me back with
the details. He did state that this was the first reported problem on the
006. My guess is the shipping experience for my TV probably jarred
something inside causing all the odd problems.
I am going to request the shipping of the second unit be handled
a whole lot more professional than the first. Something tells me that the
tour my first 006 took in the back of that Uhaul all over Oklahoma
probably didn't help it's well being. Not to mention how they must have
loaded it.
Anyway, so far so good.
Thank you all very much for the kind words and support.
This is the first time I have ever been so stressed out over a TV.
But then again, this is NOT just a TV. It's a 70" VR experience.
I will keep you all informed.

Thanks,
Martin
post #1123 of 17193
Whow! I finally found a forum where a lot of people know what they are talking about. Her is my delima. I have a Zenith with 9" Crts. From what I Hear that is about as good as it gets. What I want to know is what will I get for my 13K? Is it worth the difference. The only think I can tell so far is that I get the up coding to 1080P but I will not be able to use source material at 1080P. Thanks in advance for your help and advise.
post #1124 of 17193
Better yet, look up on the site... 100min for 1250 at 50-80% load. Mentions simulated sine-wave. Similar sine-wave mentioned for 1100, but only 1.5-4 minutes backup time! Pretty huge difference. Anyone used one of these? Any fan noise we need to be worried about?
post #1125 of 17193
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Originally posted by w8jvm
Whow! I finally found a forum where a lot of people know what they are talking about. Her is my delima. I have a Zenith with 9" Crts. From what I Hear that is about as good as it gets. What I want to know is what will I get for my 13K? Is it worth the difference. The only think I can tell so far is that I get the up coding to 1080P but I will not be able to use source material at 1080P. Thanks in advance for your help and advise.

9" guns are great, but they do require careful, periodical convergence adjustments for best picture. They do tend to burn-in with station logos and what have you, if left on a long time.

Qualia will offer a perfect convergence and no burn-in worries. I would also think that true pixel-by-pixel 1080 resolution on the Qualia will give you more detail than a 9" CRT, but that is more debatable. Also, Qualia may offer better brightness. CRT will offer deeper blacks.

Best if you take your favorite reference DVD and go check the Qualia out with DVD and HD material. Also, watch this space for R Harkness' review of this set, coming soon.
post #1126 of 17193
Richard,

We went to see a closeout of a new 9" Mits and it was not even close to anything else there. All of the DLP's and LCD's were sharper than the Mits with the 9" CRT's. So we are waiting to see the Qualia when it is at a local shop...soon from what I hear.

'73


Quote:


Originally posted by w8jvm
Whow! I finally found a forum where a lot of people know what they are talking about. Her is my delima. I have a Zenith with 9" Crts. From what I Hear that is about as good as it gets. What I want to know is what will I get for my 13K? Is it worth the difference. The only think I can tell so far is that I get the up coding to 1080P but I will not be able to use source material at 1080P. Thanks in advance for your help and advise.
post #1127 of 17193
Thanks for the data! The one other question I have is about not having the ability to input 1080P signals. If I spend 13K it will have to last me a long time and I am wondering if that will be an issue in a few months / years?
post #1128 of 17193
I just got a call back from Sony with talk about maybe trying to fix it.
I explained that I had not received a good working 006 that I had
paid for and was not receptive to settling for a repaired TV.
They agreed that they would probably be willing to replace it with a new
one but did not have an estimate how long this might take.
This is starting to leave a very bitter taste in my mouth after just
popping $14K but I am going to give them a chance to make good on this.
The person that called me back the second time was over Qualia support
so I took the opportunity to discuss the shipping experiences of my 006.
She promised this would not happen to me again.
The calls from them did seem to climb the ladder as needed but we shall
see if their response is fair and timely.
I will let you know how it progresses.

Enjoy your Qs,
Martin
post #1129 of 17193
Tulsa1

I know how much you want it to be perfect from the first time you turn it on until you die of old age at around 120.

I might agree to them looking at it if they can fix it on the first visit and its something like a loose wiring harness. Beyond that, I think I'd ask them for another one.
post #1130 of 17193
Not to press my luck, but one other experiment just got me curious. I notice a slight quality difference when I look at HDTV via my OTA imput and the same signal over my comcast cable input. With a set as good as the Qualia, do you owners notice a significant quality difference. Or, is it just these old eyes playing tricks on me
post #1131 of 17193
I would think years. Stations are not even all hd yet and who knows when the new DVD players will come out and have Media support.


Quote:


Originally posted by w8jvm
Thanks for the data! The one other question I have is about not having the ability to input 1080P signals. If I spend 13K it will have to last me a long time and I am wondering if that will be an issue in a few months / years?
post #1132 of 17193
Barrybud - thanks for the great link !
post #1133 of 17193
Tulsa -

If you settle for a tech visit (and they are successful in getting the 006 to function) make sure you at least get a free ISF calibration with it.

You can probably get a new replacement TV eventually if you are persistent, however, as I said before eventually is the key word and will undoubtedly be based upon when the next shipment arrives and if all those have been scooped up.

Sending a tech to your residence may simply be a ploy to validate your findings to make sure they are not dealing with some nut case.

Was the last Qualia support person who spoke with by any chance Margaret French ?
post #1134 of 17193
I just came back from Fry's. They did not have the Qualia of course. They did have two 60" Sony LCD RPTVs (I understand the qualia is LCoS and not LCD?). Anyhow one had a glass shield/covering built on the screen, the other did not. The glass shield caused massive reflections, etc. I wanted to know does the Qualia have that that glass piece covering the screen or a matted surface?
post #1135 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by Tulsa1
I just got a call back from Sony ...The calls from them did seem to climb the ladder as needed but we shall see if their response is fair and timely. I will let you know how it progresses.

Tulsa1 -- check your PM...
post #1136 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by grendyl
I just came back from Fry's. They did not have the Qualia of course. They did have two 60" Sony LCD RPTVs (I understand the qualia is LCoS and not LCD?). Anyhow one had a glass shield/covering built on the screen, the other did not. The glass shield caused massive reflections, etc. I wanted to know does the Qualia have that that glass piece covering the screen or a matted surface?

grendyl,

The QUALIA does indeed have a glass shield in front of the screen. I believe it's made of acrylic, but it is specially treated to be anti-reflective and does a very good job...
post #1137 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by mpsan
ColorTV must not have seen my question. I noticed they had a 1250VA (vs. 1100 VA) that said it was pure sine-wave for only $13 more. Did you notice that, too?

Based on my experience last night, the Belkin 1250VA might be a better choice. After the game I was demoing the 006 to my friends with some D-Theater 1080i source material. I inadvertently had my amp cranked up way too loud when the D-Theater logo came on which caused the amp to draw more current than the Belkin UPS was able to supply, causing a fast shutdown of the whole system when the Belkin tripped! Not exactly what I had in mind, since one of the bases I wanted to cover with the Belkin UPS was to let the lamp cool down gradually by the TV's internal fans in the event of a power failure. An embarrasing moment to be sure, but at least everyone's hearing was protected by the fast shutdown! All was well moments later when I restarted the Belkin UPS and no further problems even at fairly loud volume. I have all components plugged into the Monster 5100 power conditioner - the Monster is the only thing plugged into the Belkin UPS. The 1250VA would probably have been a better choice for the extra pittance - a cushion is a good thing.
post #1138 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by nhey
Tripplite HT1500

This looks like an interesting UPS by Tripplite that takes up to 450 watts from attached equipment. The Qualia needs 330 watts.

http://www.tripplite.com/shared/pdf/manuals/932232.pdf

But keep in mind other peripherals you may want to plug into the UPS such as cable DVR, DVD player, and a/v receiver. You could quickly run out of power cushion as I found out with the 1100VA as mentioned in the previous post.
post #1139 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by colortv
Not exactly what I had in mind, since one of the bases I wanted to cover with the Belkin UPS was to let the lamp cool down gradually by the TV's internal fans in the event of a power failure.

Lots and Lots of LLL !
post #1140 of 17193
Quote:


Originally posted by colortv
But keep in mind other peripherals you may want to plug into the UPS such as cable DVR, DVD player, and a/v receiver. You could quickly run out of power cushion as I found out with the 1100VA as mentioned in the previous post.


ColorTV - I'm not sure how to calculate the capacity I would need for a UPS.

Is it the sum of the watts each component + the 006 draws?

006 = 330 watts
AV receiver = 100 watts
HD TIVO = 40 watts
Comcast 6412 = don't know, assume 40 watts
DVD player = 40 watts


Total = 550 watts

So I would need a UPS that can provide at a very minimum at least 550 watts of power??
How much do the 1100va and 1250va provide?
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