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post #16771 of 17304
Hey Dave,

I'm sorry to read about your problems with your TV. Please email your model and serial number and a discription of the problem to Sonylistens@am.sony.com and we will work to resolvr your issue.

Thanks,

Mike Puma
post #16772 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfokos View Post

I had already tried that, but to no avail.

Are you sure its the Qualia and not your DVD player.
Test the dvd player HDMI output on another tv.
Have you selected the correct Qualia tv/video input ?
I believe it has to be #6 or #7
post #16773 of 17304
Interesting new twist... When I try connecting my older DVD player with its DIVX-to-HDMI cable -- that works fine. What are the chances of 2 HDMI cables failing simultaneously?
post #16774 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfokos View Post

Interesting new twist... When I try connecting my older DVD player with its DIVX-to-HDMI cable -- that works fine. What are the chances of 2 HDMI cables failing simultaneously?


Again:

Are you sure its the Qualia and not your DVD player.
Test the original bad dvd player HDMI output on another tv.

AND

have you selected the correct Qualia tv/video input ?
HDMI only works on inputs #6 or #7
post #16775 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Again:

Are you sure its the Qualia and not your DVD player.
Test the original bad dvd player HDMI output on another tv.

AND

have you selected the correct Qualia tv/video input ?
HDMI only works on inputs #6 or #7

I have a DVD player and also a DVR. Both connect via HDMI -- one to input 6 and the other to input 7. They both stopped working. I have tried all permutations of cables, devices, and inputs.

However, after this latest episode with the DIVX-HDMI cable, I will now go out and get another HDMI cable today, just to be sure. I really wasn't expecting that to work.

Thanks for the suggestions and thoughts!
post #16776 of 17304
Also... I was able to use the DVD player using its component outputs.
post #16777 of 17304
Update: It is NOT the HDMI cable... *sigh*
post #16778 of 17304
No updates from drfokos for awhile - sounds like the Q found a new way to go south... perhaps part of a board got fried. Good luck - sounds like Sony is interested in providing some assistance which seems like a good sign.
post #16779 of 17304
Well guys, after waiting and waiting, finally tomorrow I get my new Elite 70 inch delivered and setup in the house. They will also be removing the (formerly) beloved Q, once and for all. Because they're only sending 2 guys, I suspect and have warned them that due to the 300-lb. weight, we will likely have to dismantle and carry it out in pieces. But one way or another, it will breathe its final breath tomorrow. Kind of sad about this to be honest. What do you guys think? Can 2 guys (plus me) carry this thing out of a 2nd floor room down and outside? No crazy stairwells, all pretty straightforward. I know that it took 3 guys (huge guys too) to deliver it. Not looking forward to them tearing this apart in my living room. Oh well, it is what it is.

On the plus side, I can't wait for the Elite. It has been calibrated for both ISF Day and ISF Night modes by Ed Johnson at Value Electronics in upstate NY. Supposedly it came out perfect. Perfect color uniformity, perfect gamma, etc. We'll see. But this will be an exciting day for sure.

Cheers guy, I'll post back when I have her up and running!
-Brian
post #16780 of 17304
Not unless they are 600 lb gorillas
post #16781 of 17304
Guys, just wanted to provide a quick set of impressions based on the last 36 hours of initial ownership of the new Elite 70inch as it compares directly to the Qualia 006, my former beloved :-) I'll have more info soon, as it's still VERY early to give the most accurate analysis, but FWIW here goes:

1. The Qualia is indeed movable by 2 medium-sized guys, but they might drop it on their foot once or twice :-) Of course, a willing 3rd party (err, customer) might help alot in carrying this beast. In short, we got it out of here, I shed a tear as the van drove away. She was just such a beautiful beast, and she really is responsible for opening my eyes to good quality video, being a long-time audio freak who couldn't have cared less about video prior to 2005. She changed me man, she changed me :-) For that, she will always be missed.

2. The Elite's build quality externally is not at the level of the Qualia. The Qualia was a 300-lb. tank and built to sit up high and be "statue-esque" with a big backend. The Elite is 3 inches thin, sits in a perfect frame form factor, and is barely 100-lb's soaking wet. This is a Good Thing(TM) in my opinion, but it takes getting used to for some of us. The Elite is sexier in its subtlety form-factor wise, nice and tight, no gangly backend. The black bezel is not high gloss which is fantastic, it is sleek and perfect in my opinion. The only light that comes on is a small blue Power light in the far lower left corner, and even that can be disabled if one wants absolutely no light from anywhere near the set (other than the picture of course).

3. Picture Quality - okay, this is tough. The Elite is better. But not by an enormous amount. And I certainly need more data, even after some very heavy viewing of different material. Now, keep in mind, my Q had a giant green blob in the middle of the screen for the last 6 months, so one could argue my frame of reference is flawed. But it's more than that. Color uniformity is incredible on the Elite. Perfect from edge to edge, all 70inches. Motion, once I figured out how to disable Motion Enhancement on the Elite, was as smooth as the Qualia - and this was tested with 1080p/24 sources, 1080p/60, 1080i/60. The "immersive" quality of the Q, which drew me to it back in 2005, is equal in the Elite I would say. Though overall enjoyment of the Picture Quality is higher on the Elite. The biggest difference I would say is around Black Levels and Uniformity. The black levels on the Elite are absolutely the best I've ever seen and completely reference quality. They are insanely gorgeous, literally blending right into the bezel. There is no artifacting, no halo effect, nothing that I could see in that regard. The whites pop perfectly as well, just greater range on the set color-wise it seems. Even Comcast cable channels that I hated the look of on the Q, came out and "popped" like I haven't seen since my original Q and its original optical block were calibrated by UMR back in 2006. It's really so refreshing to have this kind of quality back, but with significantly improved Black Levels.

4. This is a set that allows for ultimate tweaking of "nerd knobs" in terms of every aspect of Picture quality you can imagine - with 2 ISF modes, Day and Night, for calibrators. This may be overwhelming for some, but the point is this - this set is DEMANDING of good calibration. If you're bothering to spend the kind of money this set requires, a good calibration is in order. Now, that said, out of the box, MovieTHX mode is actually the best one and not shabby at all. But even still, unlocking ISF Day and ISF Night and allowing the colors to be even more dialed in is 100% required in my opinion. The trick is that these are new sets, and not many calibrators have ever touched one, and certainly this means the learning curve is high initially. Take that into account, though I have no doubt an excellent calibrator like UMR could easily "pick this up quickly" and be achieving really great stuff with it.

5. 3D - oh God, what is happening to me? Did I just say '3D'??? Oh my, I really must be changing in my old age! I have not yet tried any 3D material, but that's not for lack of interest, just for lack of time. I was so busy ensuring that 2D looked proper and was set up properly with my equipment, that I haven't experienced 3D yet. The Movie mode is calibrated and set for me to use it for 3D apparently, but can't vouch for it yet. I did however purchase the IMAX Hubble 3D BluRay and Nightmare Before Xmas 3D and Tron3d. So i'm ready and armed for this weekend! The 2 pair of included glasses sure look cool though, not bad at all! Just need some time with them. BTW, I recently purchased the Oppo95 BluRay player, so I'm ready for 3D and all now. Also DirecTV has some 3D channels that I hope to test as well this weekend. ESPN3D among them.

6. I am SO glad I replaced the Q with the Elite, in the end, it was absolutely the right move. And that's only 36 hours in, with little time to fully realize the enjoyment level of the Elite. Of course, I had no choice but to replace the Q with its giant green blob. But I think I just happened to choose the best damn replacement for a 70inch set you could possibly choose, at least today. If I can get 6 years of pure enjoyment (hopefully more) out of the Elite, it will be well worth it.

Hope that is helpful in some regard guys, sorry for the stream-of-consciousness there, but work calls! I gotta go earn the privilege of this thing ya know :-)

Cheers to all!
-Brian
post #16782 of 17304
Thanks Brian

Please keep us up to date as you gain more experience. There are still several of us who may still be undecided which direction to go.
Are you planning on having a UMR calibration ?

Stew
post #16783 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Thanks Brian

Please keep us up to date as you gain more experience. There are still several of us who may still be undecided which direction to go.
Are you planning on having a UMR calibration ?

Stew

ISF Day and ISF Night modes are now fixed completely! The calibrator at VE in New York (where I bought the Elite) fixed up the Motion Detection and Film Modes for me, and now all is well! Now I get the color accuracy and perfect gamma, perfect black levels and white levels of ISF mode as well as disabling all the motion "intelligence" that the set tries to do for crappy sources. In my case, the Elite will never see anything but 1080p/60 or 1080p/24 from either the Oppo95 or the Anthem D2V. So I don't need the set to be doing extra processing and doing all kinds of things to the signal. Just display it, stand out of the way, and let it shine! Be a dumb monitor, quit trying to be smarter than my other equipment for cryin' out loud! Nahh, but hopefully you get the point - these 'features' like Motion Enhancement and Film mode are designed to increase flexibility for those who send stuff like 480i or 480p to the display. Those of us with excellent video processing either in our disc players or in a receiver/processor don't need all that fuss, and it actually runs counter to simplifying the video chain. I will take care of feeding it a proper 1080p/24 or 1080p/60 image, and now it's just stepping out of the way and displaying it in all its glory. And oh my, what glory it is! The time to sit back and enjoy it is here!

Cheers gang, good luck in your decisions ahead. In my book, you could not go wrong with the Elite (just be sure to have it calibrated!).

-Brian
post #16784 of 17304
Glad you like the Elite,Hoping my Qualia will last a while longer,before I have the OB problem.
post #16785 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan View Post

ISF Day and ISF Night modes are now fixed completely! The calibrator at VE in New York (where I bought the Elite) fixed up the Motion Detection and Film Modes for me, and now all is well! Now I get the color accuracy and perfect gamma, perfect black levels and white levels of ISF mode as well as disabling all the motion "intelligence" that the set tries to do for crappy sources. In my case, the Elite will never see anything but 1080p/60 or 1080p/24 from either the Oppo95 or the Anthem D2V. So I don't need the set to be doing extra processing and doing all kinds of things to the signal. Just display it, stand out of the way, and let it shine! Be a dumb monitor, quit trying to be smarter than my other equipment for cryin' out loud! Nahh, but hopefully you get the point - these 'features' like Motion Enhancement and Film mode are designed to increase flexibility for those who send stuff like 480i or 480p to the display. Those of us with excellent video processing either in our disc players or in a receiver/processor don't need all that fuss, and it actually runs counter to simplifying the video chain. I will take care of feeding it a proper 1080p/24 or 1080p/60 image, and now it's just stepping out of the way and displaying it in all its glory. And oh my, what glory it is! The time to sit back and enjoy it is here!

Cheers gang, good luck in your decisions ahead. In my book, you could not go wrong with the Elite (just be sure to have it calibrated!).

-Brian

How did you manage the calibration from a calibrator in NY ?
post #16786 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

How did you manage the calibration from a calibrator in NY ?

He made the 2.5 hour trek to come and see it firsthand and remedy the problem. They had delivered the set to me in the first place, with the calibration already in place prior to delivery. Unfortunately, the motion settings were not correct initially. Very happy to have it resolved.

-Brian
post #16787 of 17304
Way to go on the Elite; thanks for the insights. Funny how so many people are ripping on the price and Qualians paid thousands more for the Q. And to high end audio folks, some pay more for cables and interconnects than the Elite costs. It's beginning to look like the Elite is worth the price of admission and a worthy successor to the Q.
post #16788 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by sofer View Post

Way to go on the Elite; thanks for the insights. Funny how so many people are ripping on the price and Qualians paid thousands more for the Q. And to high end audio folks, some pay more for cables and interconnects than the Elite costs. It's beginning to look like the Elite is worth the price of admission and a worthy successor to the Q.

Agreed. Last night, we watched Avatar 3D Bluray and all I can say is, holy sh!t! Absolutely amazing, honestly guys, the best movie viewing experience I've ever had - and I mean WAY better than I ever imagined it would be. I've seen plenty of 3D movies at IMAX theaters, and this was so much better! Honestly, I didn't think I'd ever say this, but I just found the killer app to this television - 3D baby! Insane how beautiful and perfect the depth and colors were, so incredible, I had to scrape my jaw off the floor afterwards.

Now, maybe I'm easily impressed, because for one thing, I had a big massive green blob on my screen the last 6 months, and for two, I never had 3D in the house before. But everyone says how 3D is not ready yet, it doesn't work well on today's sets, blah blah blah...all I can tell you is 3D on the Elite was PERFECT! No less than absolutely stunning, for 2 and half hours we couldn't stop saying 'wow...' over and over. Incredible.

Sorry to sound like a fanboy here guys, but honestly, I just found some new enjoyment in the home theater, wow, this is nuts. Forget everything you've heard about crappy 3D - it doesn't have to be that way! The Elite is proof!

-Brian
post #16789 of 17304
Great to hear the 3D hardware is finally ready for prime time. So they have built it now will they come with content? To me until they have a huge library in 3d and plenty of content on cable it will just be too sidelined to be worth any real amount. I won't watch the same film endlessly so I need a ton to choose from. Although I still think by the time 3D content is ready the glasses will be a thing of the past.

Thanks so much for your review great to hear there is hope if I have to let my Q go into the dark stormy (and probably green) night.
post #16790 of 17304
The 70" + LCD thread had some opinions that Sharp will be offering an 80" next year, but not in the Elite line. Apparently, it has something to do with which plant can cut 80" glass economically, and it isn't the most advanced one that does the Elite line. Since I use my TV only for DirecTV and not Blu-Ray, this might be a good step for me. The Sony 60" is doing good duty as a stand-in until I decide next year. 60" looks tiny on the Q stand.
post #16791 of 17304
Just out of curiosity are there only a handful of guys left here who still have working sets?

I bought the last available model at Tweeter before they went out of business .. anyway my five year extended warranty (purchased through Tweeter and handed off to third party) runs out late next summer I think. I had one major service on this (the screen would not power on .. just blinking lights) - they replaced the ob once. Anyway, I have been using my tv a lot (daily) because I finally gave in and signed up for hd programming and bought a collectors ed. gears of war 3 xbox console like a normal geek - getting too fat to play any more ice hockey.

anyway 3 questions:

1) If I ever hit the "green blob of doom", will Sony ask me for my receipt so I can show them the thousands I spent on it? I'll have to hunt it down but I do have the warranty paperwork. I paid less thank 10k for it .. does that matter to Sony when they consider a replacement - do they go by screen size or finances?

2) Is what TheManWithaPlan accomplished (getting a 65") replacement an anomaly? Did owners who got a replacement earlier get inferior models or is the 65hx929 pretty standard.. or has Sony's offerings improved over time to keep up with technology/finances?

3) If my extended warranty isn't through Sony, am I screwed?

thanks for any info,
G
post #16792 of 17304
Oh by the way, I should clarify that everything on my set seemed yellowish/hazy.. kinda greenish before the set went completely out. The tech repaired by replacing the OB after a few visits back in April of 2010. The set has worked like a champ even with extended viewing/PC use and recent hardcore gaming.

G
post #16793 of 17304
Sony looked at what I paid, which was close to retail, at the time they made me an offer. Have no idea what the threshold was/is. Sony offered me the top of their current line, which was the LX960 at the time. Might still be the case, but note that the 65 has not yet released by Sony.

Third-party warranty: You have the choice, at the next failure to persue your third party warranty or Sony's offer of the day. Read your warranty carefully as to their terms if TV is "unrepairable",which it will be as Sony no longer offers OB parts. It'll be up to comparing the two offers AND whether the third party will say to you "you have to take the Sony offer".

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF SONY LISTENS TELLS US WHAT COORDINATION IS TAKING PLACE BETWEEN SONY AND THIRD-PARTY WARRANTY COMPANIES.
post #16794 of 17304
Thanks for the info.. I'll check my warranty with a fine tooth and comb.

G
post #16795 of 17304
I purchased my 70 Qualia used from a friend back in 2009. Has been working great until now. Recently the set started displaying the yellow haze on the picture. I am wondering if Sony will replace this for me or have it repaired? Does Sony require a proof of purchase before they offer a replacement set? I may still be able to get it if so. I would like to get it working if not.

Thanks again guys!
post #16796 of 17304
Yeah my Q has had the OB replaced 2 times now and it’s starting to show signs of going bad again. I still have an extended warranty until November 3, 2011, what are your thoughts on trying to get a replacement set?
Thanks,
Marty
post #16797 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan View Post

Guys, just wanted to provide a quick set of impressions based on the last 36 hours of initial ownership of the new Elite 70inch as it compares directly to the Qualia 006, my former beloved :-) I'll have more info soon, as it's still VERY early to give the most accurate analysis, but FWIW here goes:

1. The Qualia is indeed movable by 2 medium-sized guys, but they might drop it on their foot once or twice :-) Of course, a willing 3rd party (err, customer) might help alot in carrying this beast. In short, we got it out of here, I shed a tear as the van drove away. She was just such a beautiful beast, and she really is responsible for opening my eyes to good quality video, being a long-time audio freak who couldn't have cared less about video prior to 2005. She changed me man, she changed me :-) For that, she will always be missed.

2. The Elite's build quality externally is not at the level of the Qualia. The Qualia was a 300-lb. tank and built to sit up high and be "statue-esque" with a big backend. The Elite is 3 inches thin, sits in a perfect frame form factor, and is barely 100-lb's soaking wet. This is a Good Thing(TM) in my opinion, but it takes getting used to for some of us. The Elite is sexier in its subtlety form-factor wise, nice and tight, no gangly backend. The black bezel is not high gloss which is fantastic, it is sleek and perfect in my opinion. The only light that comes on is a small blue Power light in the far lower left corner, and even that can be disabled if one wants absolutely no light from anywhere near the set (other than the picture of course).

3. Picture Quality - okay, this is tough. The Elite is better. But not by an enormous amount. And I certainly need more data, even after some very heavy viewing of different material. Now, keep in mind, my Q had a giant green blob in the middle of the screen for the last 6 months, so one could argue my frame of reference is flawed. But it's more than that. Color uniformity is incredible on the Elite. Perfect from edge to edge, all 70inches. Motion, once I figured out how to disable Motion Enhancement on the Elite, was as smooth as the Qualia - and this was tested with 1080p/24 sources, 1080p/60, 1080i/60. The "immersive" quality of the Q, which drew me to it back in 2005, is equal in the Elite I would say. Though overall enjoyment of the Picture Quality is higher on the Elite. The biggest difference I would say is around Black Levels and Uniformity. The black levels on the Elite are absolutely the best I've ever seen and completely reference quality. They are insanely gorgeous, literally blending right into the bezel. There is no artifacting, no halo effect, nothing that I could see in that regard. The whites pop perfectly as well, just greater range on the set color-wise it seems. Even Comcast cable channels that I hated the look of on the Q, came out and "popped" like I haven't seen since my original Q and its original optical block were calibrated by UMR back in 2006. It's really so refreshing to have this kind of quality back, but with significantly improved Black Levels.

4. This is a set that allows for ultimate tweaking of "nerd knobs" in terms of every aspect of Picture quality you can imagine - with 2 ISF modes, Day and Night, for calibrators. This may be overwhelming for some, but the point is this - this set is DEMANDING of good calibration. If you're bothering to spend the kind of money this set requires, a good calibration is in order. Now, that said, out of the box, MovieTHX mode is actually the best one and not shabby at all. But even still, unlocking ISF Day and ISF Night and allowing the colors to be even more dialed in is 100% required in my opinion. The trick is that these are new sets, and not many calibrators have ever touched one, and certainly this means the learning curve is high initially. Take that into account, though I have no doubt an excellent calibrator like UMR could easily "pick this up quickly" and be achieving really great stuff with it.

5. 3D - oh God, what is happening to me? Did I just say '3D'??? Oh my, I really must be changing in my old age! I have not yet tried any 3D material, but that's not for lack of interest, just for lack of time. I was so busy ensuring that 2D looked proper and was set up properly with my equipment, that I haven't experienced 3D yet. The Movie mode is calibrated and set for me to use it for 3D apparently, but can't vouch for it yet. I did however purchase the IMAX Hubble 3D BluRay and Nightmare Before Xmas 3D and Tron3d. So i'm ready and armed for this weekend! The 2 pair of included glasses sure look cool though, not bad at all! Just need some time with them. BTW, I recently purchased the Oppo95 BluRay player, so I'm ready for 3D and all now. Also DirecTV has some 3D channels that I hope to test as well this weekend. ESPN3D among them.

6. I am SO glad I replaced the Q with the Elite, in the end, it was absolutely the right move. And that's only 36 hours in, with little time to fully realize the enjoyment level of the Elite. Of course, I had no choice but to replace the Q with its giant green blob. But I think I just happened to choose the best damn replacement for a 70inch set you could possibly choose, at least today. If I can get 6 years of pure enjoyment (hopefully more) out of the Elite, it will be well worth it.

Hope that is helpful in some regard guys, sorry for the stream-of-consciousness there, but work calls! I gotta go earn the privilege of this thing ya know :-)

Cheers to all!
-Brian


i have heard nothing but good things about the sharp elites, but i also have read they are not cheap.

what did this bad boy set you back?
post #16798 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

i have heard nothing but good things about the sharp elites, but i also have read they are not cheap.

what did this bad boy set you back?

MSRP for the 70inch is 7999...I did not pay that. You can find it cheaper, but not much cheaper. If you can swing it, I can't say enough positive things about this set, really really amazing. But get it calibrated, or don't bother buying it. Cheers!
post #16799 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by lgordon View Post

I purchased my 70 Qualia used from a friend back in 2009. Has been working great until now. Recently the set started displaying the yellow haze on the picture. I am wondering if Sony will replace this for me or have it repaired? Does Sony require a proof of purchase before they offer a replacement set? I may still be able to get it if so. I would like to get it working if not.

Thanks again guys!

Sony wanted a copy of my sales receipt as part of the process. You'll have to take your chances with Sony for your case.
post #16800 of 17304
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjw2095 View Post

Yeah my Q has had the OB replaced 2 times now and it's starting to show signs of going bad again. I still have an extended warranty until November 3, 2011, what are your thoughts on trying to get a replacement set?
Thanks,
Marty

Suggest you try the extended warranty, first; and see what they say. Who is the warranty with?
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