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post #16951 of 17199
[quote=jb007;21507066]Fellow Qualians,

Moving into a new home and am contemplating turing one of the rooms into a mini-theater. I've never had a front projector before, so I am asking for some advice, particularly about the screen. The room is 16'4" x 11'9" Any thoughts?[/QUOTE

busy until weekend. Can give you some advice, as I did it a few years ago. Ted
post #16952 of 17199
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

That's just the way Sony handles the exchange. I would speculate the replacement TV's come out of a different allotment than the ones designated for retail sale. Additionally, not everyone lives near a Sony Style store and has a vehicle large enough to transport a 65" boxed television.

other than losing 5 precious inches (there's got to be a bad joke in there...), i am very happy with my pending replacement after doing some research on the 65HX929.

LED, backlit, w/local dimming TVs are rather expensive these days...and not all that common.

and again, the nominal fee is what i would have burned through in a couple of lamp replacements.
post #16953 of 17199
[quote=Ted99;21508236]
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

Fellow Qualians,

Moving into a new home and am contemplating turing one of the rooms into a mini-theater. I've never had a front projector before, so I am asking for some advice, particularly about the screen. The room is 16'4" x 11'9" Any thoughts?[/QUOTE

busy until weekend. Can give you some advice, as I did it a few years ago. Ted

Looks like the screen wall should be the 11'9" wall so you can have a descent viewing distance from the screen.
I suggest you contact someone like AVS supporter Audio Visual Science and also visit the appropriate AVS web pages. Prepare to be overwhelmed with info and information. The choices are endless.
post #16954 of 17199
jb,

how were you initially alerted to the fact that the replacement would be arriving in a couple of weeks instead of spring; were you alerted by sony or by the delivery company to the surprise?
post #16955 of 17199
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

jb,

how were you initially alerted to the fact that the replacement would be arriving in a couple of weeks instead of spring; were you alerted by sony or by the delivery company to the surprise?

I received an email from Sony that the 929 had shipped, with a tracking number. The local shipping company called to set up a delivery date.
post #16956 of 17199
Thread Starter 
[quote=thestewman;21510883]
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Originally Posted by Ted99 View Post


Looks like the screen wall should be the 11'9" wall so you can have a descent viewing distance from the screen.
I suggest you contact someone like AVS supporter Audio Visual Science and also visit the appropriate AVS web pages. Prepare to be overwhelmed with info and information. The choices are endless.

Thanks Stew. There is a lot of information out there. I'm thinking a 120" 16x9 screen will be the way to go, but what about 133"? Should I consider a dual purpose 16x9 and 2.35:1? And then, which brand screen? Is there really a noticeable $5,00 difference between screens or is it like Monster HDMI cables v. Monoprice HDMI cables? Ah, decisions, decisions
post #16957 of 17199
The 929 got delivered yesterday. My experience was much like the rest here that have gotten them. Last year, as the OB just began to fail I contacted the main Qualia line and some guy ended up authorizing a 929 for $375. At the time the required defect picture just wasn't good enough, but I knew, unfortunately, that time was on my side. When the green tint got bad enough to photograph, I contacted Sarah at Sony Listens on facebook. I emailed her a picture and it was approved (I didn't have to insert the event number). First I was offered a 729 (edgelit) and was told the 929 was backordered until the spring. I asked if I could wait and just happended to mention that I was aware of the $375 offer. Sarah approved it. Then I got an email from a different Sony department. I called and spoke to a guy who told me to send the black sticker with the serial number, along with my event number to a location in Fort Myers, FL (I live near Daytona Beach, and don't know if it's a regional Sony location.) Then I got another email outlining the whole procedure, with a request for a picture with the event number and a different department to send it to at the same location in Fort Myers. Confused, I called the guy back. He confirmed that my picture had already been approved and suggested I send my letter by cetified mail. Instead, I sent it overnight and called the next day to be sure it had been received. Within a week my 929 was at my house. First impressions are excellent. No crease or uneven lighting issues. I'll never own this generation's edgelit sets in a large size because of the non-uniformity of the lighting. I've got an Oppo 95 coming soon for 3D.
post #16958 of 17199
Hey just curious.. did anyone do any of the following:

1) buy an extended warranty for their replacement 929 (through sony)?
2) sell their 929?

If you did sell it, what venue did you use (classifieds here?) and did you get a decent coin for it?

I'm 90% keeping it but every time i see a 92" DLP or 80" Sharp or even the 70" elite I think of the size I'm missing out on.

I would buy an aftermarket warranty through squaretarde but I think they go by price paid not actual market worth of the set...

cheers,
G
post #16959 of 17199
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Originally Posted by sofer View Post

The 929 got delivered yesterday. My experience was much like the rest here that have gotten them. Last year, as the OB just began to fail I contacted the main Qualia line and some guy ended up authorizing a 929 for $375. At the time the required defect picture just wasn't good enough, but I knew, unfortunately, that time was on my side. When the green tint got bad enough to photograph, I contacted Sarah at Sony Listens on facebook. I emailed her a picture and it was approved (I didn't have to insert the event number). First I was offered a 729 (edgelit) and was told the 929 was backordered until the spring. I asked if I could wait and just happended to mention that I was aware of the $375 offer. Sarah approved it. Then I got an email from a different Sony department. I called and spoke to a guy who told me to send the black sticker with the serial number, along with my event number to a location in Fort Myers, FL (I live near Daytona Beach, and don't know if it's a regional Sony location.) Then I got another email outlining the whole procedure, with a request for a picture with the event number and a different department to send it to at the same location in Fort Myers. Confused, I called the guy back. He confirmed that my picture had already been approved and suggested I send my letter by cetified mail. Instead, I sent it overnight and called the next day to be sure it had been received. Within a week my 929 was at my house. First impressions are excellent. No crease or uneven lighting issues. I'll never own this generation's edgelit sets in a large size because of the non-uniformity of the lighting. I've got an Oppo 95 coming soon for 3D.

Seems your path wasn't without some twists, turns and bumps...but alas, you made it to the end.

What is your subjective opinion of the difference between 70 an 65?

What did you end up doing with the Q? That s seemingly going to be my next quandary in this whole sorted affair
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[quote=Ted99;21508236]
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

Fellow Qualians,

Moving into a new home and am contemplating turing one of the rooms into a mini-theater. I've never had a front projector before, so I am asking for some advice, particularly about the screen. The room is 16'4" x 11'9" Any thoughts?[/QUOTE

busy until weekend. Can give you some advice, as I did it a few years ago. Ted

1. Go as wide as possible. My room is 15' wide and my screen is 11'7'' wide. It leaves about 2' on each side for the main speakers (angled inward). Cost does matter for screens. First, are speakers behind screen? If so, woven is better than perforated. Second, PJ brightness--If PJ is not bright enough, you will need a more reflective screen( ie: 2.0 or above gain). If PJ has a lot of brightness, gain of 1.0 is best. Most common is a gain of about 1.3 for the best compromise. The higher the gain, the more important it becomes to have a bat cave and the narrower the viewing angle, which can be important if the seating distance is less than 1.5 x the width.

2. 16:9 vs 2.35: Most movies are 2.35, but PJ's are native 16:9. If you don't have an anamorphic lens, you'll be watching most movies with black bars. Another reason to go as wide as possible in screen.

3. PJ: The two most important things are brightness and throw ratio. Throw ratio will determine the distance the PJ must be placed from the screen to fill the whole screen (If you get this wrong, the picture may not fill the whole screen, or it may be that you cannot zoom enough to make the picture small enough to fit on the screen. Do some research on this, it's too long for a discussion here. Brightness will determine how good the picture is. The key measurement is Ft-L on the screen, which is very different from ANSI Lumens that the PJ mfg's advertise. Everything starts with Lumens, but then you use screen area, screen reflectivity, where you are in the PJ's throw range, lamp aging, solid or woven/perforated screen, and callibration (callibrated usually drops the PJ Lumens by as much as 50%). Secondary factors are LCD, LCOS, and DLP or 3-chip DLP. All have their pros/cons and another area for research. Then lamp type comes into play. Front PJ lamps are 2 to 3x the price of RPTV lamps. Other options are bocoming available, such as LED, but they have their pros/cons, as well. More research. Another factor is heat. When UMR did the callibration on my Sim2 front PJ, he remarked on how cool the movie room remained. He said that in most instalations, the room became warm after an hour, or so. I have my PJ located outside the viewing room projecting through a hole in the rear wall. The problem is that house thermostats are usually somewhere other than in the tightly closed viewing room, and the 200w+ lamp adds a lot of heat. We don't usually see this with our RPTV's because the TV is usually in an area that is not isolated from the remainder of the house. So, lamp watts is important.

The front projector forums on this site are very good. I learned a lot in my research. Research is the most important thing you can do.

Ted
post #16961 of 17199
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

Seems your path wasn't without some twists, turns and bumps...but alas, you made it to the end.

What is your subjective opinion of the difference between 70 an 65?

What did you end up doing with the Q? That s seemingly going to be my next quandary in this whole sorted affair

Going down in size 70" to 65" isn't that bad; but I'd rather be going up to as big as possible, always.

I'm either going to donate the Q to a charity that will pick it up (the picture with programming isn't too bad yet). Or just pay someone to haul it away. Either way, it's going to be a sad day; the Q and this forum thread has kept me entertained for over six years.
post #16962 of 17199
Wow, i just got a shipment confirmation email moments ago informing me that my replacement is on its way...coupled with the unseasonably warm weather we've been having in the northeast, it sure does feel like spring around these here parts!

maybe i'll have it in time for the superbowl!

thanks to all for the help...
post #16963 of 17199
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

Wow, i just got a shipment confirmation email moments ago informing me that my replacement is on its way...coupled with the unseasonably warm weather we've been having in the northeast, it sure does feel like spring around these here parts!

maybe i'll have it in time for the superbowl!

thanks to all for the help...

Amazing how they find a unit to ship in every case almost immediately.

Good Luck
post #16964 of 17199
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Amazing how they find a unit to ship in every case almost immediately.

Good Luck

like i tell my kids all the time, the squeaky wheel gets the oil....
post #16965 of 17199
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Amazing how they find a unit to ship in every case almost immediately.

Good Luck

Yes. Amazing. Then from backorder to front door in less than a week. Hey, I'm not complaining, and I'll buy Sony from here on out. Full-array with local dimming LED is the only way to go for me.
post #16966 of 17199
Still can't figure out how to feel about my 65 - it has one pixel that won't go red near the center so it is not badly flawed although it is annoying on the netflix screen to see that one bit of blackness. I haven't managed to get the ooh feeling I expected out of it. I played with a few settings, but I noticed that in 3d things seemed substantially off with the customized settings on. I just left it on vivid for the kids and that seems to work very well for 3d - but obviously not natural and you see the processing artifacts. I guess just hard for me to "catch the spirit" and the one little flaw isn't helping. I hope they come out with better 3d glasses as they mentioned at the latest conference. My little ones can't really wear the current model easily.
post #16967 of 17199
I've had perhaps a dozen flat panel displays (TV and computer). Only one ever had a bad pixel--Sony, of course.
post #16968 of 17199
Thread Starter 
A couple of observations...

The box lists the contents as an HX92, not HX929.

Did everyone else receive a hand written note from Sony thanking them and offering assistance if needed?
post #16969 of 17199
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

A couple of observations...

The box lists the contents as an HX92, not HX929.

Did everyone else receive a hand written note from Sony thanking them and offering assistance if needed?

mine is getting delivered tomorrow...don't konw what a HX92 is but I'll be sure to let you know about the box markings and whether or not I receive a hand-written note. It wouldn't surprise me though if that was special treatment reserved for the first owner

did you set yours up yet? if so, what do you think?

i'm thinking of doing a brief side-by-side for a while before i retire the 006 (just to get a sense of what i'm losing in the screen real estate department)...plus, my son thinks it would be great to watch the superbowl with two giant tv sets


[EDIT: if you google HX92 you get some hits from what appears to be foreign sites; e.g., Malaysia. I hope they are not sending us set that were intended for foreign markets that may have different specs/features.]
post #16970 of 17199
Might be good, if they have PAL 1080P/50 hz capability. Higher resale value for the very small market that needs this.
post #16971 of 17199
i'm really not interested in 3d when i go to the theater but since the hx929 is 3d ready, i may pick up a couple of pairs of the 3d glasses (TDG-BR250).

but since i really haven't kept abreast of this stuff i find myself not knowing whether you need anything else other than the glasses; i.e., since these are active shutter glasses, how do they communicate with the tv and/or the player? also, i imagine a 3d blu-ray disc will play on "regular" blu-ray player since i believe it is the tv that is processing the 3d signal, not the player? or do i have that wrong?

tia
post #16972 of 17199
sony confirms kazuo hirai as new president and CEO

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/01/s...ident-and-ceo/

Wonder if the replacement programs will continue....
post #16973 of 17199
My replacement set is an XBR65HX929. There are two different stickers on the back of the TV, but the box is long gone. Funny, I remember asking the delivery guy to be sure it was a 929 and he said it was as he looked on the box.

No hand written note, though.

I have a pair of the BR250 glasses. I got them in a set with the Harry Potter movies. All I did was charge them and they were good to go. The 929 detected the 3D signal when the movie began (I think), but on my DirecTV 3D channels I had to set the 3D mode from the remote.
post #16974 of 17199
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

i'm really not interested in 3d when i go to the theater but since the hx929 is 3d ready, i may pick up a couple of pairs of the 3d glasses (TDG-BR250).

but since i really haven't kept abreast of this stuff i find myself not knowing whether you need anything else other than the glasses; i.e., since these are active shutter glasses, how do they communicate with the tv and/or the player? also, i imagine a 3d blu-ray disc will play on "regular" blu-ray player since i believe it is the tv that is processing the 3d signal, not the player? or do i have that wrong?

tia

ok, i've been doing some research and realize it isn't as straightforward as i thought/hoped.

i may have to replace the hdmi cables that are currently routed from my equipment rack to the tv's location with "high speed" hdmi cables. also, it seems i'll have to get a 3d blu-ray player that has two hdmi outputs for backward compatibility with my existing AVR and pre-amp/processor. an alternative to replacing the cables routed to the tv location would be to have the blu-ray player physically located with the tv as opposed to my equipment rack and use one of the existing hdmi cables to route the audio signal back to the rack components and the other to feed the 3d video signal to the set...hmmm, seems i haven't been keeping up with this 3d technology and advances in hdmi spec

any thoughts about getting a panasonic bdp-310 vs. getting either the oppo bdp-93 or bdp-95, other than the obvious differences in price?
post #16975 of 17199
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Originally Posted by sofer View Post

My replacement set is an XBR65HX929. There are two different stickers on the back of the TV, but the box is long gone. Funny, I remember asking the delivery guy to be sure it was a 929 and he said it was as he looked on the box.

No hand written note, though.

I have a pair of the BR250 glasses. I got them in a set with the Harry Potter movies. All I did was charge them and they were good to go. The 929 detected the 3D signal when the movie began (I think), but on my DirecTV 3D channels I had to set the 3D mode from the remote.

thanks, sofer.

i was looking at the same HP bundle but just wasn't sure whether anything else was needed...seem the hx929 is all set to sync with the glasses.
post #16976 of 17199
I have found that many BD/DVD players will not play a DL DVD made on my computer. Some are better at it than others. My older Panny won't do it at all. I believe the Oppo will do the best of any, other than a HTPC. The Oppo also has superior upscaling for DVD's to 1080P--can make a big difference. The better receivers have better upscaling than the typical BR player, so if you have one of these, feed them the native signal and don't worry about the Oppo. Upscaling is where most of the cost difference comes from. You gets what you pays for.

I found that the regular 3' HDMI cables that came with non-3D players have worked for the Direc TV 3D signals and signals from my HTPC. High speed may be necessary for longer runs, but has not been a problem for my short runs.
post #16977 of 17199
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

A couple of observations...

The box lists the contents as an HX92, not HX929.

Did everyone else receive a hand written note from Sony thanking them and offering assistance if needed?

jb,

mine got delivered today. the box does indeed have HX92 in large bold face type (this must be a "family" designation) but there are also a number of stickers, etc. that indicate the exact model, which is XBR65HX929 ... see attached pics.
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post #16978 of 17199
Hi People!

I'm new to this forum. I just got a kds70q006 and screen looks really Green (like: )... Reds and Blues can be seen on the screen but everything is covered by a green mist...

Any comments? Solutions? Is it worth to fix it?
post #16979 of 17199
I got my replacement 65hx929. So far happy with it, I will be following that owner's thread for more details now. After this long voyage, I have to say that Sony did come through, surprisingly given the class action suit and all.
post #16980 of 17199
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Originally Posted by EnzoDamario View Post

Hi People!

I'm new to this forum. I just got a kds70q006 and screen looks really Green (like: )... Reds and Blues can be seen on the screen but everything is covered by a green mist...

Any comments? Solutions? Is it worth to fix it?

Read the back posts for the past 3 years--you have a lemon
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