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post #5971 of 17191
Proper calibration is key to getting the best performance. I would suggest anyone with this set strongly consider doing this right.

D-Theater is one of the best sources available to the consumer. I would suggest getting a D-VHS player and looking at something like U-571 over i.Link. That will show you what your TV is capable of with a high quality source.
post #5972 of 17191
Ben Dover -Thanks for the suggestion about the OTA antenna to rule out the satellite as the source of the problem. The best hi def picture in town with an over-the-air signal comes from the local public channel WQED in Pittsburgh but their antenna went down last night. The other OTA channels are at this time of the day (noon) all broadcasting upconverted signals. I'll check again later and report back.

umr- I don't think I want to pay for a D-VHS player with the Blu-Rays coming out fairly soon... (I don't need to archive and have the Dish DVR 921), but I am getting the proper calibration done next month ($400 with a Photo Research PR650 SpectroRadiometer ) and will also post on those results.
post #5973 of 17191
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Originally Posted by veinboy View Post

I am connected via HDMI. I don't know if it's the satellite source or the TV but at least one other person (Empire-of One, post #3085 page 155) has seen it independently at a dealer's showroom but he didn't mention what the feed was there.

Have you seen this watching a DVD or any other source besides sat?
post #5974 of 17191
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Originally Posted by umr View Post

Proper calibration is key to getting the best performance. I would suggest anyone with this set strongly consider doing this right.

D-Theater is one of the best sources available to the consumer. I would suggest getting a D-VHS player and looking at something like U-571 over i.Link. That will show you what your TV is capable of with a high quality source.

UMR- ever since Eliab calibrated my set, I strongly prefer viewing HD material over an HDMI connection rather than via iLink. There is no way to calibrate an iLink input is there? I tried the same user menu settings I have for the HDMI input for my iLink input, but the HDMI picture is still better.
post #5975 of 17191
Thread Starter 
Joel and veinboy,

Please don't think me rude, but I purposely have not and will not look for the issues you describe. Call me an ostrich, but while I'm aware there are shortcomings with this set, I am so mesmerized everytime I watch TV on the Q006, that I prefer not to know where the scars are located. If I don't know it's there, then I won't fixate on it or worry about it. I am cursed with being a bit of a perfectionist, so this would just ruin it for me.

By the same token, I don't look for door dings on my new ride either. I know they're there, but mentally, I'm a happier person not knowing where to look every time I walk up to my car
post #5976 of 17191
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Originally Posted by nhey View Post

UMR- ever since Eliab calibrated my set, I strongly prefer viewing HD material over an HDMI connection rather than via iLink. There is no way to calibrate an iLink input is there? I tried the same user menu settings I have for the HDMI input for my iLink input, but the HDMI picture is still better.

Yes, but you need a reference source for i.Link like I have.
post #5977 of 17191
Joel,

The only stand out quality of the Qualia over the other digital sets was slightly more resolution. If I came into that store to buy a set I wouldn't consider it worth the premium price for the difference. If one knows to look for it, and I don't see how one could miss it, the haloing (extreme edge enhancement ) was something not on the other sets. On a similar note I have never seen a CRT-RPTV in a store that comes close to the picture I see at home. The Mits CRT-RPTVs in most cases need a lot of calibration to come up to their potential. I'm sure in most cases the Qualia will show better than the Mits in the store, probably much better. It is unfortunate but true. I'm assuming the Qualia needs tuning (or something) like the Mits. Either that or one has never seen a Mits that looks like mine.

The Set makers can not compete with the digital sets out-of-the-box quality with CRT-RPTVs out of the box, hence the end of expensive, high quality CRT-RPTVs. I, so far, rue the end of CRT-RPTVs but I obviously am in the minority.
post #5978 of 17191
jb007- You are completely correct in not looking for the scars or defects for the reasons that you mentioned and I hope that my mentioning this doesn't interfere with others enjoyment of their sets or ruin it for them. But I'm convinced that the problem I discussed really does exist and another Qualia owner has sent me a private message acknowledging that it is annoying to them also.

It is also seen on OTA high def broadcasts and in my opinion and others is not related to the source. I'm pretty sure that it bothers me enough that if I would have seen this before I bought it, I probably would not have purchased the set. I pointed it out to the wife and she sees it but it doesn't bother her at all. But that's just me and my personality. I tend to sometimes see the glass as half empty and it is a curse especially considering all of the great positive things that have been said about Qualias.

I think it should be mentioned though so that others can look for this problem before they purchase a Qualia. Then they can see for themselves whether they see it at all and if they do, whether or not it is bothersome to them.
post #5979 of 17191
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Originally Posted by umr View Post

Yes, but you need a reference source for i.Link like I have.


I assume you are referring to your DVHS machine. Correct? Do you have a calibration tape that you can use in the DVHS machine over an iLink connection to a RPTV like the 006?
post #5980 of 17191
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Originally Posted by nhey View Post

I assume you are referring to your DVHS machine. Correct? Do you have a calibration tape that you can use in the DVHS machine over an iLink connection to a RPTV like the 006?

That is correct. I have two of them. One is for 720p and the other is for 1080i.
post #5981 of 17191
Hello Veinboy,
Have you noticed any difference or have any preference with 480i vs 1080i output from your Sony DVD player to the 006?
post #5982 of 17191
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Originally Posted by veinboy View Post

Whenever there is any hi-def camera motion or zooming against a light background like the sky, faces, snow or the green grass of athletic fields or golf courses or landscapes, the graininess or grit of the screen against the moving light colored scene is more than a little distracting. Throughout this thread I only saw one other mention of this and that was by Empire-of-One on post #3085 and I saw this after my purchase.

I've set my Standard, Pro and Vivid settings all to Cinemotion but this doesn't help much. I discussed this with Eliab from info@Avical.com who travels the country and does the ISF calibrations. He will be coming to calibrate my Qualia next month but didn't promise that he could help much in this regard.

After my purchase I went back and looked at some larger Sony 50 inch plasmas and didn't see the same graininess but the demo tapes that the store was showing made it difficult to really tell if it was also inherit in these plasmas .

Does this defect bother anyone else? Any suggestions or solutions? I hope I'll eventually get used to it but right now it's driving me crazy.

Veinboy,

Is it a "shimmering" type of effect? I noticed this type of effect on my Toshiba LCoS and now on my Sony GWIV RPTV on bright, solidly colored areas. My assumption was/is that it was due to the combination of fixed pixels, polarized light, and the lenticular screen. The Toshiba had a pitch of less than .1mm if I remember. I think the polarized light is key too because I've never seen this effect on DLP's.

I can easily see the effect on the GWIV when displaying a 100IRE field, especially if I move my viewing angle horizontally. Lowering the White Level seems to minimize it to a degree, but doesn't eliminate it. Do you see the same thing?

Can anyone confirm if the 006 is using a lenticular screen or some type of diffusion screen? If it is a diffusion screen than the cause of what your are seeing must be something else.

Sean
post #5983 of 17191
Thread Starter 
For those of you that like boxscores . . .

This thread has now reached 300 pages, that consist of 5,983 posts on the Q006, with 242,225 views. Penton-Man continues to be omni-present with 987 posts in this thread, followed in second place by kaduku with 382 (not even half of PM's posts!)

As Joel would say,

Cheers!
post #5984 of 17191
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Originally Posted by jb007 View Post

For those of you that like boxscores . . .

This thread has now reached 300 pages, that consist of 5,983 posts on the Q006, with 242,225 views. Penton-Man continues to be omni-present with 987 posts in this thread, followed in second place by kaduku with 382 (not even half of PM's posts!)

Just wanted to post on the 300th page! Go Qualians!
post #5985 of 17191
Hi everyone,

Mini Dive is having a cookout to celebrate the 300th page

Ya'll are invited . . .
LL
post #5986 of 17191
Penton-Man ... After very close examination of both the 480i and the 1080i outputs from my Sony 975 to the Qualia, I can honestly say that I see no difference at all ... although I realize that most people favor the picture from the 480i output.

Sean S ... The graininess that I see on light colored backgrounds when the camera slowly pans isn't really a "shimmering" effect that some people might even call moire. Occassionally I can see some shimmering with striped shirts or car grills on the Qualia but that doesn't bother me much. (I do see a lot of moire, however, on my perforated Stewart screen that I use with my DILA G 15 projector in my theater and Don Stewart told me that's never been described before with that set up, so maybe I'm crazy) ...or just tormented!
post #5987 of 17191
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Originally Posted by divedude View Post

Hi everyone,

Mini Dive is having a cookout to celebrate the 300th page

Ya'll are invited . . .

nice...getting a jump on the memorial day weekend?
post #5988 of 17191
Page 300!!!

I wonder what the AVS record is?

--Dwayne

P.S. Only 200 posts to be #2 ahead of kaduku! But we all know that NO ONE will out-post Penton-Man on this thread . . . .
post #5989 of 17191
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Originally Posted by Zechman View Post

Page 300!!!

I wonder what the AVS record is?

--Dwayne

P.S. Only 200 posts to be #2 ahead of kaduku! But we all know that NO ONE will out-post Penton-Man on this thread . . . .

I didn't even know I made the list! JB, are you sure about this tally.
post #5990 of 17191
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Originally Posted by divedude View Post

Hi everyone,

Mini Dive is having a cookout to celebrate the 300th page


Ya'll are invited . . .


Hey Divedud, sign me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love my WEBER too!
post #5991 of 17191
Smooth Convergence Between HD Gaming Computers and Home Theater Projectors

"With all that horsepower and a Blu-ray drive, you'd think the PS3 might be able to play HD material, and you'd be correct. In fact, I hear it will only output 1080p from its dual HDMI outputswhich is somewhat puzzling when you consider that the Sony's finest RPTV, the Qualia 006, can only accept a 1080i input."

http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/052005e3/
post #5992 of 17191
i suppose by the time any of these gaming systems come out there *might* be a TV set that can accept 1080p, but for now it doesn't appear that anything currently available, or even available in the immediate future, can/will accept 1080p.

I'll have to connect it to my 23" HP LCD.
post #5993 of 17191
i just cooridinated for my Q to get calibrated. i called the isf tech who did it for my xbr 60" lcd.he did an excellent job. after i called him this time and told him it's a Q006 that i want calibrated , he said he would call me back. Today he called back to inform me that the isf founder (a friend of his) himself will be comming with him to do the actual calibration. Wow! nice. i feel confident that it will be calibrated precisely. The calibration is cooridinated for next week. i will let you all know how it went.
post #5994 of 17191
BenDover

I got my Sharp LC45GX6U to successfully accept 1080P. I bypass the AVC unit and drive the panel directly.
post #5995 of 17191
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Originally Posted by hifi59 View Post

i just cooridinated for my Q to get calibrated. i called the isf tech who did it for my xbr 60" lcd.he did an excellent job. after i called him this time and told him it's a Q006 that i want calibrated , he said he would call me back. Today he called back to inform me that the isf founder (a friend of his) himself will be comming with him to do the actual calibration. Wow! nice. i feel confident that it will be calibrated precisely. The calibration is cooridinated for next week. i will let you all know how it went.


Where are you located? Sounds great that you will have two ISF techs there, no less the ISF founder himself

They must have been "itching" to get their hands on a Q. Maybe they can do some Service Menu tweaks!!!
post #5996 of 17191
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Originally Posted by bobhoppel View Post

BenDover

I got my Sharp LC45GX6U to successfully accept 1080P. I bypass the AVC unit and drive the panel directly.

OK, you have my attention

Can you elaborate on this?
post #5997 of 17191
Hello All,

I received my Q006 today. It is wonderful, even though I haven't watched any HD content yet (tomorrow).

I am having problems with lip sync. I have a HD DirecTV TiVo connected via HDMI. The TiVo is connected via an optical cable to a Denon reciever. If the TiVo is outputting in a format that is interlaced (480, 1080i) AND direct mode is off there is about a quarter of a second delay in the lip sync. It is very noticeable.

If direct mode is on, the lip sync is perfect.

If the TiVo is outputting at 480p or 720p the lip sync is perfect.

1) Is there a disadvantage to direct mode? Does it lower the picture quality?

2) What format should the TiVo output ideally (even if lip sync was perfect for all)? My thinking was that since the scaler in the Q006 is probably better I would output in the same resolution as it was broadcast in.

3) What height stand do you guys recommend? Our stand is 28" and seems a little high.

Thanks for all of your input,
dan
post #5998 of 17191
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

Where are you located? Sounds great that you will have two ISF techs there, no less the ISF founder himself

I believe that be Joe Kane of North Hollywood?.....and Digital Video Essentials fame.
post #5999 of 17191
Oops,
I think that there were actually co-founders of the ISF...... Joe Kane and Joel Silver (currently in the Boca Raton area ?).
post #6000 of 17191
DBordello...Is direct mode a DirectTV HD Tivo term/setting? I am not familiar with this setting on the Q itself.

Can your Denon receiver compensate for the lip sync delay?
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