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post #961 of 17305
Dwayne,
I agree with what you are saying about the xbox setup. However I was warned not to rely on what the game box states but rather confirm its resolution via one of the gaming sites. I also agree with you about the more enjoyable game does not correlate directly to its resolution. I just wanted to check for any motion artifacts on a 1080i games with a lot of movement. Mx unleashed certainly fit the bill!
brgds,
jp
post #962 of 17305
Dilbert1 - I don't have a Qualia. I don't even have much hope of seeing one anytime soon in the Pittsburgh area. I can only drool at the thought of what you and the other new owners are experiencing.

I do have a new Sony LCD RP, though, and I ran into the same problem with the Video5, Video6, etc. pop-up on the screen. If you have a button on your remote labeled 'Display', pressing it may be the answer. It was for me.

Great good luck to you with the new set. Please keep posting your impressions for those of us who can only dream about it - at least for the time being.
post #963 of 17305
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Dilbert1
The popup "Video 6" is still in the upper left corner. Exit does not work and I have not found anything in the manual yet. I will try calling the number in the manual for help unless anyone has any ideas how to turn those popups off.
I would think it should stay on for 10 seconds or so then go away.
Dilbert1

This can be easily resolved by pressing the "display" button on the remote. The display button actually has two cycles. One press (when there is no popup on screen) will display all info (channel, description, resolution, etc.), that will disappear after ~ 10 seconds. A second press will leave the input (Video 6) and time displayed on screen. If you hit display again, it will disappear.
post #964 of 17305
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by MotorMouth777
I thought they were kidding about the long delivery.................

I am now told that it will take at least 5 weeks to get my set delivered......maybe. Has anyone else heard this noise. What kind of piss poor planning was this to undership to the demand.

It took me the extra month to cough up the BS extra $3k those rat bastards are extorting from me....... Once I get the set I am sure the quality will soothe my feathers but making me wait that long is simply adding insult to injury...........


Tell me again how much I'm gonna love this TV.....Give me strength brothers.................

MotorMouth,

Is this really a surprise? The "old" thread had postings there were only 300 006's in the initial shipment (via air?). I don't know whether that's true or not, but one reason people ordered in early January was to lock-in a unit. It's not uncommon that demand for a hot product initially exceeds its supply.

Hang in there, once you get this baby you will be happy and (hopefully) the delay will be a distant memory
post #965 of 17305
Quote:
Originally posted by colortv
Squawks,

There is no comparison between the blacks of the 006 vs LCD RPTV's. SXRD blacks are vastly superior, but still not as good as CRT. Still, no current RPTV can match the blacks of SXRD.


I'm sorry to hear that at 10K the SXRD failed in this area.
post #966 of 17305
JB007 -

I have taken JP2's settings, spelled out all the words as per the manual, and summarized them here so you can attach them to the first post on this thread.

JP2 - thanks for posting these.


JP2's settings:

HTPC outputting a 1080i signal via a DVI to HDMI cable to the 006:

Video mode: Pro
Picture = 52
Brightness = 47
color=33 (default setting)
hue=0 (default setting)
sharpness =25 (default setting)
color temp.=warm
Noise Reduction =high
Direct Mode=off

Advanced settings (the next two settings are only applicable for 480i sources, and have no effect on a 480p, 720p, or 1080i signal coming into the 006)

drc mode=cinemotion
drc pallette custom3 r=40,c=86

cinema black pro=on
color space=wide
color corrector = low
DTE=off
clear white= on
detail enhancer= medium
black corrector= medium
gamma corrector = low
white balance = default, don't touch
post #967 of 17305
"I understood that this set is reasonably good with shadow detail so I am wondering why I may be seeing a lot of black crush. I will try to get a DVD to test this. I am using the default "normal" video setting."


I like what I'm reading about this set, but the black level issues concern me.
post #968 of 17305
How would you say the Qualia compares to a top of the line Plasma for PQ - colors, contrast and blacks.
post #969 of 17305
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by rebo77
the nvc qualia expierece from hell

ok i took off from work again today to recieve the tv it was set for delivery at 9-12 i just got a call sir sorry but we will not be delivering today your truck was invollved in a accident and there were several people hurt i dont have any further info but i wll contact u after 10 with the info probally deliver next week well set something up for then (me) i was like i just spent 15k on a tv and i have to have it for the super bowl and i curently have no tv in my home so u have to have that thing delivered
(nvc) well thats not my concern right now i have people hurt. ill be contacting you soon.

what luck i canteven call qualia they dont open till 12 est and could the tv be posibly damaged this sucks bigtime.

Some of the delivery experiences from hell are troubling, but I don't think this is one of them. Now, everyone, repeat after me, "it's only T.V., it's only T.V.!" Well, actually, it's Qualiavision, which, admittedly, is better than T.V.

It's natural that after forking over $15k, we all want our 006's delivered immediately, trust me I was the exact same way! However, Sony has contracted with NVC, and they contract with local delivery companies. Many of us have been extremely pleased with the delivery process. My point is that while I understand "blaming" Sony, because they are ultimately responsible, is it really their fault when there is a traffic accident resulting in injury? I took off from work to accept delivery, believe me I was anxious. So, I understand everyone's frustration that has experienced a hassle with delivery of their 006.

I think some of the unhappiness may be filtering back to NVC. I received a telephone call from NVC earlier this week with questions about the delivery. Was it timely, professional, etc.

Hang in there. The anxiety is not worth it (I know, I know, I already have my 006), but you all will too, hopefully very soon!
post #970 of 17305
In my opinion, the 006 is the best picture available. Better than any plasma, DLP, CRT,, D'ILA, I've seen. Of course, I haven't seen everything (who has?) so your mileage may vary.

I can't comment on how it compares to front projectors.

Have no problem with black crush. Its a matter of getting the settings the way you prefer them.
post #971 of 17305
Neo2005 - My stand is substantially taller than 16.5" (24", I believe) and I find it just fine. I think the sony stand would be too low for my taste/setup/furniture.

But this is such a subjective area, it is impossible to give advice. I think what Dilbert was driving at was the importance of recognizing that the TV is PRETTY LARGE in person, and to factor that into your own personal TV viewing arrangement.

I don't think there is a "right" answer, IMHO.
post #972 of 17305
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by nhey
JB007 -

I have taken JP2's settings, spelled out all the words as per the manual, and summarized them here so you can attach them to the first post on this thread.

Thanks, nhey, it's done.
post #973 of 17305
Quote:
Originally posted by nhey
In my opinion, the 006 is the best picture available. Better than any plasma, DLP, CRT,, D'ILA, I've seen. Of course, I haven't seen everything (who has?) so your mileage may vary.

I can't comment on how it compares to front projectors.

Have no problem with black crush. Its a matter of getting the settings the way you prefer them.

That's good news then, if Sony SXRD is the best display technology out there today, beating the venerable CRT in all areas of PQ, while offering the advantages of a newer technology, then we can only hope to see more them of them market and various sizes and price points, while maintaining the same quality as the flagship 006. I really want to check out this set.
post #974 of 17305
auditor55/hidefbob,
PQ for HD and DVD playback is overall better than the toshiba 1080p lcos set and sharp 1080p 45" lcd set that I had. The black levels are much better than either one. I have also spent some time watching a calibrated fujitsu plasma and the 006 was a much better overall viewing experience. The color, geometry, BL, and resolution are the best that I've been able to find. Another area inwhich the 006 is better than the toshiba is the stability of the picture. I had some occasional issues with flicker on the toshiba. I have not noticed any of those issues with the sony. A general issue with technology these days is that there are so many configurations and adjustments that are possible that it can be very confusing for most people. ex. dvi to hdmi, hdcp handshaking, component analogue vs. digital connections, interlaced vs. progressive, scaling and deinterlacing, cable vs satellite, etc, etc.

brgds,
jp
post #975 of 17305
Quote:
Originally posted by nhey
In my opinion, the 006 is the best picture available. Better than any plasma, DLP, CRT,, D'ILA, I've seen. Of course, I haven't seen everything (who has?) so your mileage may vary.

I can't comment on how it compares to front projectors.

Have no problem with black crush. Its a matter of getting the settings the way you prefer them.

I agree completely at this point in time. My comments, thus far, are only from someone who has had the set for 2 days. The good comments are accurate "impressions" and any issues, thus far, are from someone who is still untangling cables.

I think the only thing you can really get from this thread about picture quality is that people seem to be excited about the images when the set is driven from a good HD source.

In time professional reviewers will get their chance.


Dilbert1
post #976 of 17305
Thanks JP2 for your (obviously) educated opinions. I'm also very much looking forward to professional reviewers in all the video mags. I expect we'll be seeing our set as the "cover story" in most of them in the very near future.
post #977 of 17305
When you say CRT, do you mean Directview sets?

Quote:
Originally posted by nhey
In my opinion, the 006 is the best picture available. Better than any plasma, DLP, CRT,, D'ILA, I've seen. Of course, I haven't seen everything (who has?) so your mileage may vary.

I can't comment on how it compares to front projectors.

Have no problem with black crush. Its a matter of getting the settings the way you prefer them.
post #978 of 17305
Quote:
Originally posted by SABAlove
Neo2005 - My stand is substantially taller than 16.5" (24", I believe) and I find it just fine. I think the sony stand would be too low for my taste/setup/furniture.

But this is such a subjective area, it is impossible to give advice. I think what Dilbert was driving at was the importance of recognizing that the TV is PRETTY LARGE in person, and to factor that into your own personal TV viewing arrangement.

I don't think there is a "right" answer, IMHO.

I assume anyone buying the Qualia has gone out to look at a 70 inch LCD television. The Qualia 70 inch while being about the same size will look MUCH LARGER IN YOUR HOME. In the store the space and walls change the scale of the set. At home the TV will look like a canary in a match box. Ok, that is an exaggeration but your (certainly your wife's) comment or expression should be recorded for a good laugh. My ceiling in the entertainment room is about 14 feet. You probably will feel like it is a movie theater. In fact, it may make you think it would not be a bad idea to have a small set in the bedroom for the news.

Dilbert1
post #979 of 17305
Quote:
Originally posted by slocko
When you say CRT, do you mean Directview sets?

I had the Pioneer Elite 730hd, arguably one of the top CRT RPTVs. I have the Sony 34XBR910, the fine pitch model, also arguably one of the top CRT direct view sets.


The Qualia's detail is FAR BETTER than either on HD sources (haven't really watched that much DVD material on it thus far, although the Fifth Element superbit was spectacular on the 006). I'd rank them as 006 clearly the best, followed by the 34xbr910 (excellent picture, but darker, not as detailed, and obviously much smaller screen so much less WOW impact), and in 3rd place the Pioneer.

Of course, there are things yet unknown about the 006: For example, how long will the bulb really last (a 200w UHP), and does watching the set at high levels such as in the Vivid mode, or in any mode with the "picture" setting nearly maxed out, decrease the life expectancy of the bulb? Also, will any problems (God forbid) develop that no one has seen as yet?

It is somewhat reassuring that this is probably 2nd generation SXRD, since the 004 front projector has been available for a while already, but this is the first iteration of a RPTV version, so who knows what to expect long run? So far so (very) good.
post #980 of 17305
For those who are wondering, removing the set's speakers does make the set appear to be considerbly smaller, so that should improve your WAF (it's still big, especially if you are not used to looking at a large RPTV). I previously had a 64" inch set so the change going to 70" is not much for me.

I still think a stand that is taller than about 16 or 17" will be problematic for many folks' families - at least, I guess, until they get used to looking up a little from a seated position. Of course, it's all personal preference when you come down to it.
post #981 of 17305
It's great to see so many videophiles pile on so many accolades on this TV.
post #982 of 17305
I have a DVI/HDMI cable and would like to use that cable for a connection to my PC. So far, my connection from the DVD and Sat Receiver has been component.
Is there any concensus on picture quality from component to DVI/HDMI? Is there a visable difference for using 4 meter cables??

I have some more comments about DVD but no time right now.

Dilbert1
post #983 of 17305
Does anybody have a copy of the manual yet for a download...???
post #984 of 17305
Yo Dilbert1 thanks for the reply....I guess I could always raise the chairs as was suggested. I would love to hear from a few folks who do use a taller stand and please include your seat and or eye height, along with the distance from the screen.
post #985 of 17305
Hello again all!


Can someone please provide feedback for my post at the bottom of page 46 of this thread? ColorTV, Kaduku, JB007, Penton-Man, Nhey, ....any owners?

Thanks again,

Kevin
post #986 of 17305
Here's my .02 regarding the picture quality of the Qualia 006 vs. other sets and technologies...

PLASMA: These sets just don't come close to the Qualia. True black and shadow detail -- in particular -- are vastly superior on the Q. Color rendition and saturation is far more accurate and lifelike. Absolute sharpness without artifacts or blotchiness: the Q wins again. Freedom of motion stutter or blur; the plasmas all seem to exhibit this to some degree; it is absent on the Q. One huge advantage of the Qualia is the superiority of it's scaling of 480i sources, which humbles even the Fujitsu. 480i on the Q is emminently watchable; with the plasmas I find it intolerable. I could go on, but I can't think of a single area where a plasma can touch the Qualia -- excepting size, of course. My experience with plasmas has been with the last two generations of Fujitsu 50", the current Sony XBR 50", and the latest Pioneer Elite 50".

CRT: my experience here is varied. I've owned several generations of Toshiba RPTVs; all were ISFed and had the cabinet lined with black felt to minimize internal reflections. I've had a DWIN 700 running through a Faroudja DVP-2200 @ 800x600 on a six-foot screen. I've spent time in a lot of high-end setups, from the theater at Dolby Labs to hanging out with an installer friend when he calibrates his installs. I love CRT, and have always regarded it as the standard. I've never considered any digital viewing technology (DLP, LCOS, Plasma, LCD) for critical viewing.

So, I have to admit some surprise that I am so happy with my Qualia006. Some things I like in comparison to CRT: I can view the set in something other than a very dark room, without feeling as though I'm sacrificing PQ. Convergence, focus, and alignment of the optical system is a complete non-issue so far. I'm not sure how Sony accomplished this in a RPTV format, but the projection part of this set (including the screen) are truly extraordinary. The color gamut on the Qualia seems broader than a CRT, particularly as regards red. The colors are vivid without appearing garish or exaggerated in any way. The Q's blacks and shadow detail are quite good; this may be the only area where a CRT could definitively beat the Q. But the Q's performance in this area is quite acceptable to me. I mentioned earlier that if a superb CRT scored 100 in this area, then the Qualia was a 90. After watching last night I think i can stick by that assessment. The blacks are ultimately not as rich, dark, and velvety as with CRT, and I think the Q loses a very small amount of shadow detail. Conversely, with even a small amount of room lighting this advantage of CRT -- especially in a front projection system -- would be lost. This is an example of the Qualia being a better performer in the real world, which is something that is very important to me. I don't want to be off in a dark room, alone, watching my setup -- I want to share it with my friends and family, most of whom don't want to do the "darkroom" treatment every time they want to just watch TV.

OK, so maybe it was five-cents worth! To all who have their sets, enjoy! To all who are still awaiting delivery: it's awfully tough waiting, but this set is worth it. And, thanks again to my wife, who loves that I have "hobbies" and supports my fanaticism...

Ray
post #987 of 17305
Quote:


Originally posted by nhey
Thanks JP2 for your (obviously) educated opinions. I'm also very much looking forward to professional reviewers in all the video mags. I expect we'll be seeing our set as the "cover story" in most of them in the very near future.

I agree--especially Widescreen Review. They don't seem to pull many punches. I especially would like to hear Joe Kane's impression!
post #988 of 17305
Quote:


Originally posted by brt3
Here's my .02 regarding the picture quality of the Qualia 006 vs. other sets and technologies...

PLASMA: These sets just don't come close to the Qualia. True black and shadow detail -- in particular -- are vastly superior on the Q. Color rendition and saturation is far more accurate and lifelike. Absolute sharpness without artifacts or blotchiness: the Q wins again. Freedom of motion stutter or blur; the plasmas all seem to exhibit this to some degree; it is absent on the Q. One huge advantage of the Qualia is the superiority of it's scaling of 480i sources, which humbles even the Fujitsu. 480i on the Q is emminently watchable; with the plasmas I find it intolerable. I could go on, but I can't think of a single area where a plasma can touch the Qualia -- excepting size, of course. My experience with plasmas has been with the last two generations of Fujitsu 50", the current Sony XBR 50", and the latest Pioneer Elite 50".

CRT: my experience here is varied. I've owned several generations of Toshiba RPTVs; all were ISFed and had the cabinet lined with black felt to minimize internal reflections. I've had a DWIN 700 running through a Faroudja DVP-2200 @ 800x600 on a six-foot screen. I've spent time in a lot of high-end setups, from the theater at Dolby Labs to hanging out with an installer friend when he calibrates his installs. I love CRT, and have always regarded it as the standard. I've never considered any digital viewing technology (DLP, LCOS, Plasma, LCD) for critical viewing.

So, I have to admit some surprise that I am so happy with my Qualia006. Some things I like in comparison to CRT: I can view the set in something other than a very dark room, without feeling as though I'm sacrificing PQ. Convergence, focus, and alignment of the optical system is a complete non-issue so far. I'm not sure how Sony accomplished this in a RPTV format, but the projection part of this set (including the screen) are truly extraordinary. The color gamut on the Qualia seems broader than a CRT, particularly as regards red. The colors are vivid without appearing garish or exaggerated in any way. The Q's blacks and shadow detail are quite good; this may be the only area where a CRT could definitively beat the Q. But the Q's performance in this area is quite acceptable to me. I mentioned earlier that if a superb CRT scored 100 in this area, then the Qualia was a 90. After watching last night I think i can stick by that assessment. The blacks are ultimately not as rich, dark, and velvety as with CRT, and I think the Q loses a very small amount of shadow detail. Conversely, with even a small amount of room lighting this advantage of CRT -- especially in a front projection system -- would be lost. This is an example of the Qualia being a better performer in the real world, which is something that is very important to me. I don't want to be off in a dark room, alone, watching my setup -- I want to share it with my friends and family, most of whom don't want to do the "darkroom" treatment every time they want to just watch TV.

OK, so maybe it was five-cents worth! To all who have their sets, enjoy! To all who are still awaiting delivery: it's awfully tough waiting, but this set is worth it. And, thanks again to my wife, who loves that I have "hobbies" and supports my fanaticism...

Ray


Ray - outstanding review. Thanks. Would be interested in your settings once you have them dialed in.

Here's a template for owners to use if they have settings they'd like to share. Please indicate if you used Avia, DVE, Colorfacts, or some other method if you post your settings, and what input and connection, and source material you looked at. Thanks.


Video mode:
Picture =
Brightness =
color=
hue=sharpness =
color temp.=
Noise Reduction =
Direct Mode=

Advanced settings (only applicable for 480i sources)
drc mode=
drc pallette =

cinema black pro=
color space=
color corrector =
DTE=
clear white=
detail enhancer=
black corrector=
gamma corrector =
white balance =
post #989 of 17305
Yeah, can't wait to see how the 9'ers do ...OH, never mind!

Quote:


Originally posted by kaduku
rebo77,
Sorry to hear the bad news, for you and the peeps that got hurt. I would personally rent out a u-haul truck, grabs a few of my friends and pick this sucker up myself. That's how important the superbowl is for me!!!!!
post #990 of 17305
I am going to make a cardboard cutout of the screen only....could you give me the actual screen measurements i.e. nothing but glass screen. Many thanks!!
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