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post #121 of 3491
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Originally Posted by nostar View Post

RicoSuave ,

28-1 CBS is low power and will be until June 2006. You should be able to pick it up with an outside antenna. Does it come in at all with the indoor antenna?

31-1 Fox doesn't broadcast in HD so I wouldn't worry too much about it. It probably is a program and system information protocol (PSIP) problem. I had the same problem with my samsung ts360 receiver.

The receiver refuses to lock the channel in so I can't even attempt to tune it in. As for Fox, did you find a solotion to the PSIP problem? Is there any reason to think it will be fixed when they go HD?
post #122 of 3491
Thread Starter 
I had the same problem getting 28-1 CBS, and 28-2 UPN to lock with the Dish 811. The problem turned out to be antenna which was having too much multipath issues.

As a result I went out and got an outdoor antenna from Radio Shack and mounted it in my attic as I already had RG6 cabling run from my Dish 500 install, which was removed when I got the Super dish which got mounted in a different located outside and got all new RG6 cable run.

The outdoor antenna with a $20 signal amp fixed my problem. I have CBS and UPN signal going from 78%-80% (waiting for them to move to the high power tower).

Like everyone else I also have the fox station problem

I also live on SW side of Gainesville off of Tower RD
post #123 of 3491
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

I had the same problem getting 28-1 CBS, and 28-2 UPN to lock with the Dish 811. The problem turned out to be antenna which was having too much multipath issues.

As a result I went out and got an outdoor antenna from Radio Shack and mounted it in my attic as I already had R6 cabling run from my Dish 500 install, which was removed when I got the Super dish which got mounted in a different located outside and got all new R6 cable run.

The outdoor antenna with a $20 signal amp fixed my problem. I have CBS and UPN signal going from 78%-80% (waiting for them to move to the high power tower).

Like everyone else I also have the fox station problem

I also live on SW side of Gainesville off of Tower RD

Do you have a model number for the antenna and amp? How much was the antenna?
post #124 of 3491
Thread Starter 
The Radio Shack antenna is this one..

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D2156

The Signal amp was from Walmart by Philips for $20 bucks.
Radio Shack sells some signal amps as well.
post #125 of 3491
I decided to give the Zenith Silver Sensor a try before moving on to the outdoor antenna. Much to my surprise the channel scan picked up channels 28.1 CBS and 28.2 UPN. The signal strength fluctuates between 81 and 85 but the CBS comes in perfectly. I'm sure I'll loose reception when it rains but I'll take whatever I can get. Are there any news on when ABC is going to start broadcasting digitally?
post #126 of 3491
Thread Starter 
I tired that antenna before getting the outdoor one.. I didn't have the same luck. I had multipath issues also my signal strength was only at 69%-72% max on 28-1 and 28-2, but Wuft came in strong with 85%.

Now, we all await ABC HD in August!!
post #127 of 3491
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

The Radio Shack antenna is this one..

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D2156

The Signal amp was from Walmart by Philips for $20 bucks.
Radio Shack sells some signal amps as well.


I wonder where radio shack gets those crazy mile numbers they have on that antenna you have. If that is half way true, you must be able to get the two VHF digital stations out of jacksonville (ABC and NBC) or maybe not?

I did have problems getting WOGX for a day and a half, but they fixed them i guess cause i can get the picture again. Now if people would start sending emails to WOGX I put the email address and the phone number to that guy there on this board, I will be moving away from Florida in a month so it more HD stations will probably come (since i will be gone, thats how my luck always is!)
post #128 of 3491
Thread Starter 
The VHF mile range is over stated on the antenna because I don't pick up any JAX VHF channels.

I emailed the WOGX guy twice and I didn't get any reply. I'll try once again.
post #129 of 3491
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Originally Posted by RicoSuave View Post

As for Fox, did you find a solotion to the PSIP problem?

RicoSuave,

One day it just started to work. I think it was about the time that they uplinked their signal to Dishnetwork for the Gainesville locals.
post #130 of 3491
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

The VHF mile range is over stated on the antenna because I don't pick up any JAX VHF channels.

desiguy2447,

From the Picture, That antenna looks pretty good. Do you get anything on analog 12 from Jax.?
post #131 of 3491
Thread Starter 
I tired to tune into analog channel 12 with no luck. Once in a blue moon I pick up ABC from JAX at channel 25, the analog channel.
post #132 of 3491
Any signs of WCJB going up in digital yet?
post #133 of 3491
Thread Starter 
nope, not yet. I've been trying pick up WCJB's digital channel 16 with no luck. I tired last night. So it is not up yet, but according to the launch date WCJB has 15 days before they should be live with DT/HD. Lets see if WCJB can launch on time.
post #134 of 3491
WCJB is in the testing phase for Channel 16.1. The test signal was present on Friday night (identified as WCJB-DT) for about three hours. There was no audio, but video was displayed. My TV monitor identified the signal as 16X9, but the content being transmitted during the test appeared to be 4X3 with grey bars on each side. It looks like the wait for ABC-HD is finally coming to an end.
post #135 of 3491
Greetings. I live in Gainesville, and have been following this thread for the past few months to help prep myself for receiving OTA HD when the time was right. Well, the time is finally right!

I currently have DirecTV, and recently picked up the HR10-250 HD DVR w/TiVO. I can now use this receiver to add OTA UHF reception, so I'm in the market for an indoor (hopefully) UHF antenna to pick up our meager digital broadcast offerings. I picked up a TERK TV5 powered antenna from Circuit City tonight - based on some pretty glowing feedback here and there - to see if that would do the job, but I'm having a lot of problems holding a reasonably solid signal. The signal comes in fairly strong (low 70s), but will jump down to 0 then back up again every few seconds. I'm assuming this is multipath interference I'm experiencing, but if anyone has any other ideas on what's occurring, I'm all ears.

I am thinking about ordering the Zenith Silver Sensor, and was wondering if it's possible to combine the output from two such directional UHF antennas using a simple UHF/VHF combiner. Since two of our stations are in the 35-49 degree range, and the other two are in the 170-176 degree range, I was pondering using two Silver Sensors pointed in those respective directions in order to pick up all 4 stations simultaneously with as strong a signal as possible. My only concern is what happens when a combiner is introduced into the mix, and will it even work. Any input is appreciated.

For the record I'm in the NW section of town, less than 5 miles from the WGFL low-power tower in High Springs.

jriems
post #136 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jriems View Post

I'm assuming this is multipath interference I'm experiencing, but if anyone has any other ideas on what's occurring, I'm all ears.

Do you get ghosting (multipath) on analog 20,51 and 53? If you do this is a pretty good indication that you are having the same problem with the digital signals!

Why don't you do yourself a favor and pick up a small uhf outside antenna that you can rotate. Your system is no better than the weakest link.
post #137 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jriems View Post

Greetings. I live in Gainesville, and have been following this thread for the past few months to help prep myself for receiving OTA HD when the time was right. Well, the time is finally right!

I currently have DirecTV, and recently picked up the HR10-250 HD DVR w/TiVO. I can now use this receiver to add OTA UHF reception, so I'm in the market for an indoor (hopefully) UHF antenna to pick up our meager digital broadcast offerings. I picked up a TERK TV5 powered antenna from Circuit City tonight - based on some pretty glowing feedback here and there - to see if that would do the job, but I'm having a lot of problems holding a reasonably solid signal. The signal comes in fairly strong (low 70s), but will jump down to 0 then back up again every few seconds. I'm assuming this is multipath interference I'm experiencing, but if anyone has any other ideas on what's occurring, I'm all ears.

I am thinking about ordering the Zenith Silver Sensor, and was wondering if it's possible to combine the output from two such directional UHF antennas using a simple UHF/VHF combiner. Since two of our stations are in the 35-49 degree range, and the other two are in the 170-176 degree range, I was pondering using two Silver Sensors pointed in those respective directions in order to pick up all 4 stations simultaneously with as strong a signal as possible. My only concern is what happens when a combiner is introduced into the mix, and will it even work. Any input is appreciated.

For the record I'm in the NW section of town, less than 5 miles from the WGFL low-power tower in High Springs.

jriems

I live in NW Gainesville near the Millhopper. I am able to get a consistent signal strength of 94 for WUFT-DT (36.1) and a signal strength of 88-90 for WGFL-DT (28.1). using a Zenith Silver Sensor hooked up to my HR10-250. WCJB-DT (16.1) has been testing and I have been able to receive the signal (although they have been testing at low power.) Due to your geographic location, you should be able to receive WUFT and WGFL with little difficulty. As to your original antenna choice, I would advise anyone against buying a TERK antenna. I found it to be a poor choice to pull in digital signals.

My only problem with WUFT-DT is that I live about 2 miles from the antenna site, and at times the signal overpowers the receiver (causing pixelation.) I was advised to attach an attenuator to the antenna to decrease signal strength, but it did not correct the intermittent problem.

As to reception of WOGX-DT (31.1), forget it. The transmitter site is just north of Ocala. It is virtually impossible to get a consistent signal in NW Gainesville without a large outdoor amplified antenna. Hopefully WOGX will increase power in the future to remedy this problem.
post #138 of 3491
Thread Starter 
Nice to hear that WCJB-DT 16.1 is in the testing fase. The antenna web site changed the live date from 8-15 to TBD, which stands for (To Be Determined). Hopefully I'll pick up the signal one night when the tech's from WCJB are testing the DT signal.
post #139 of 3491
Its on right now, prolly in test phase, but its messing up my Dish 811 reciever, and i cant figure out why its doing that
post #140 of 3491
Thread Starter 
ABC-DT is on right now with audio. I picked it up on my 811, but the picture kept jumping. Also my 811 locked up as in I couldn't change channels from the ABC-DT channel. Finally I manually powered the unit off, and as soon I turned it on I changed the channel to CBS-DT. Signal strength for ABC-DT is very high at about 92-95 percent.
post #141 of 3491
I had the same problem as you, i decided to pull the antenna connection from the 811 so i could change the channel. I then decided to hook it up to my sanyo's built in digital tuner and can get the channel without locking up my reciever
post #142 of 3491
Update: they just pulled the signal off the air
post #143 of 3491
Thread Starter 
Lets hope when ABC-DT goes live that our 811's work!! I'm thinking that the ABC tower is sending out information that our 811's don't like since it is in testing mode.
post #144 of 3491
My best guess is that the WCJB is sending out PSIP information but its not constant, its sending out and then not sending it out and then sending it out again, and some atsc decoders like the Dish 811 it will totally screw the thing up. My Sanyo TV's built in digital tuner though did not have a problem with this fluctuating PSIP information. Basically, i think they have some glitches in thier PSIP sender unit.
post #145 of 3491
Thread Starter 
yeah, I also think it is the PSIP information from WCJB, that is causing the 811 to behave strange!!
post #146 of 3491
This question if for those of you that have seen WCBJ's test programming. Are they broadcasting in HD?
post #147 of 3491
16:9 720P Dolby Digital HD CC Caption
post #148 of 3491
Thread Starter 
I haven't seen any HD programming, but ABC does broadcast HD in 720P
post #149 of 3491
My Sanyo TV shows that the channel is broadcasting in 720P, but they only have tested the station during hours that show only SD programs. I was not in the house today, did they test at all today?
post #150 of 3491
They were on during the "Who wants to be a Millionaire".

I'm sure they are HD ready but just haven't tried it out yet. I'm getting a letter box with gray bars on the sides. 16:9 and 720P. The psip info looks good now on my zenith(LG) tv.
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