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post #2191 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

Thanks ! I will stop by RS on the way home from work tonight.

If you work in Gainesville, I would stop there ask they probably have more stock.

Please post back what happens. It's worth a 12 dollar test.

We still don't have enough signal reports from gainesville and area using different antennas.

If you have a meter on your set tune the channels and let us know.

Also move the antenna to lots of places, rotate it, etc. You probably know the drill with rabbit ears.

I even bet if it doesn't work, RS I think is good about returns.
post #2192 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

If you work in Gainesville, I would stop there ask they probably have more stock.

Please post back what happens. It's worth a 12 dollar test.

We still don't have enough signal reports from gainesville and area using different antennas.

If you have a meter on your set tune the channels and let us know.

Also move the antenna to lots of places, rotate it, etc. You probably know the drill with rabbit ears.

I even bet if it doesn't work, RS I think is good about returns.

Will do, I work just West of the one on Main St.
post #2193 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

Will do, I work just West of the one on Main St.

Not to down the one on Main (it's really on 16th Ave) but they are more of a "cellphone store" They have one or two rabbit ear sets but the likelihood you'll have to wait forever in line behind someone getting new cell service or arguing about the current rate plan is very likely. (I pop in there on my way home too cause it's on the way)

The one on Archer is a better bet as they stock all kinds of stuff. I bought my mast, tripod and UHF from them a couple years back. If you do end up getting a mast though, Lowes has 5foot masts for around 6 bucks as opposed to RS's 13 bucks.
post #2194 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

Will do, I work just West of the one on Main St.

You can tell my age or how long ago I lived in Gainesburger as that was the only Radio Shack for a long time. Or I think, dang that was a long time ago.

I would go after work, eat a BurglerKing and hit the radio shack.

LOL, years ago I got thrown out of that one. They said I asked too many questions and didn't buy enough. Well I am guilty. They had already put the one by WalMart on 13th street so I bugged them after that, lol. But the main street store was better or was back then. I think the one on Archer road closed? I just don't go into G-ville anymore. Palatka has everything these days. And if I need more I head for Ocala.

I am curious if it works or I sent you on a wild goose chase.
post #2195 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

You can tell my age or how long ago I lived in Gainesburger as that was the only Radio Shack for a long time. Or I think, dang that was a long time ago.

I would go after work, eat a BurglerKing and hit the radio shack.

LOL, years ago I got thrown out of that one. They said I asked too many questions and didn't buy enough. Well I am guilty. They had already put the one by WalMart on 13th street so I bugged them after that, lol. But the main street store was better or was back then. I think the one on Archer road closed? I just don't go into G-ville anymore. Palatka has everything these days. And if I need more I head for Ocala.

I am curious if it works or I sent you on a wild goose chase.

Both the Gainesville and Alachua stores on pretty much directly on my route home, so whether or not it works it won't be a wild goose chase. Definitely worth a shot.
post #2196 of 3491
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Originally Posted by nobleach View Post

Not to down the one on Main (it's really on 16th Ave) but they are more of a "cellphone store" They have one or two rabbit ear sets but the likelihood you'll have to wait forever in line behind someone getting new cell service or arguing about the current rate plan is very likely. (I pop in there on my way home too cause it's on the way)

The one on Archer is a better bet as they stock all kinds of stuff. I bought my mast, tripod and UHF from them a couple years back. If you do end up getting a mast though, Lowes has 5foot masts for around 6 bucks as opposed to RS's 13 bucks.

That answers my question I posted at the same time you posted about Archer Road still being there.

If they have the bargain rabbit ears I posted, those over and over in the other threads work better than anything they sell. The Tekk that is amplified that looks like a Silver Sensor also sometimes works on VHF, but with WNBW we are learning it's hard to cheat.

How fast did solid signal get you your antenna on rush order? did you use the 2 day option? jbuttah could still get one and rush a set up by running to Lowes and buying a mast and coax premade before the weekend. But barely. I would call to be sure they actually shipped it Wednesday to make it. Overnight is way too expensive.
post #2197 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

How fast did solid signal get you your antenna on rush order? did you use the 2 day option? jbuttah could still get one and rush a set up by running to Lowes and buying a mast and coax premade before the weekend. But barely. I would call to be sure they actually shipped it Wednesday to make it. Overnight is way too expensive.

They got it out the next day (I ordered at night) but it was incredibly quick. I did use 2 day shipping which almost doubled the price. (I also bought the expensive combiner with the nice plastic casing) I ONLY buy the premade satellite grade RG6Q coax from Lowes. If you buy any spooled product, it costs more than double it seems (and I think you it starts at 250') Other than that, the antenna comes pre-assembled so it's really just popping in the plastic caps and hooking up a balun (which NO ONE seems to include these days)
post #2198 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

That answers my question I posted at the same time you posted about Archer Road still being there.

If they have the bargain rabbit ears I posted, those over and over in the other threads work better than anything they sell. The Tekk that is amplified that looks like a Silver Sensor also sometimes works on VHF, but with WNBW we are learning it's hard to cheat.

How fast did solid signal get you your antenna on rush order? did you use the 2 day option? jbuttah could still get one and rush a set up by running to Lowes and buying a mast and coax premade before the weekend. But barely. I would call to be sure they actually shipped it Wednesday to make it. Overnight is way too expensive.

I have 2 Terk HDTVa indoor antenna's and are very satified with them. I think they're the best indoor amplified VHF/UHF antenna. UHF element seems to be stronger than the VHF metal dipoles. BUT it works . I have one in my bedroom and one in my living room joined with a RS plastic FM dipole antenna on the wall. I can get WNBW in on both TV's. The problem is with the winds reaching more than 10 MPH. Then I loose it. but it is usually only for a second or two though. I live in NE Gainesville by the airport in a mobile home-- if this helps. I may eventually get the Wingard YA-1713; it has a direct 75ohm connect.
post #2199 of 3491
The rabbit from Radio Shack ears say passive HD. Will they pick up the HD signal?
post #2200 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

The rabbit from Radio Shack ears say passive HD. Will they pick up the HD signal?

YES, if you're close enough to the WNBW tower. I agree with Piggie, if that doesn't work you may need to get the outdoor antenna, especially if you want to get WOGX and WCJB also (over the air).
post #2201 of 3491
I am really only concerned with WNBW because I get the others through DN. I really missed SNL this election year and would like to be able to have the Super Bowl for the people who are coming to my house to watch it.
post #2202 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

I am really only concerned with WNBW because I get the others through DN. I really missed SNL this election year and would like to be able to have the Super Bowl for the people who are coming to my house to watch it.

Don't know if you have left for home yet. Been away from the computer. There is no such thing as an HD antenna. An antenna is just an antenna. Radio waves didn't change unless the basic laws of electromagnetic physics as changed.

Any one that says this is an HD antenna is full of ..........

Now that said, there are some DTV antennas, but that means they only pick up us channels 7-51, instead of the old channels 2-69, making them smaller.

Anyone that has an antenna will probably find it works for the new channels.

People like Ray are replacing a very old antenna and now is a good time to do that as you can get more antenna for the same size as the old styles.

I am hoping you are close enough for rabbit ears. If you have a computer at home let us know. There are some tricks that sometimes work.

One is to lay the rabbit ears out flat. Then measure each side to about 31 inches, not pulled all the way out. Then rotate the base for best signal. But any configuration that works is good enough.

One advantage to OTA over dish is dish still doesn't have HD on locals from what I have seen posted here.

If the rabbit ears don't work let us know right away if you are inclined to order an antenna, time is running out on you.
post #2203 of 3491
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Originally Posted by JayPR View Post

I have 2 Terk HDTVa indoor antenna's and are very satified with them. I think they're the best indoor amplified VHF/UHF antenna. UHF element seems to be stronger than the VHF metal dipoles. BUT it works . I have one in my bedroom and one in my living room joined with a RS plastic FM dipole antenna on the wall. I can get WNBW in on both TV's. The problem is with the winds reaching more than 10 MPH. Then I loose it. but it is usually only for a second or two though. I live in NE Gainesville by the airport in a mobile home-- if this helps. I may eventually get the Wingard YA-1713; it has a direct 75ohm connect.

yes that is why I mentioned the Tekk that looks like a Silver Sensor, because many have had them work and well some it hasn't.

But they are not gang busters on VHF, as you say you have yours hooked in parallel to a dipole. Basically you are adding a VHF antenna to your UHF Tekk. Which is great and inventive, it's just not a Tekk on it's own.

I would guess based on NoBleach's Y-5-7-13 where he gets 80% at 30 ft in NW Gainesville, you should see about the same with bigger YA-1713 in NE Gainesville. WNBW begining so low power drops off fast in signal. I am still shocked where NoBleach lives his meter is not pegged with his small VHF beam, but he has done tests now and it's working. That is just as little signal as there is from the station.

I don't see how they can say they are running enough power when in the city of their coverage it takes a deep fringe antenna to receive them. Even TVFool says they are a green channel for most of Gainesville but signal reports here beg to differ they are much much much weaker.

Like I said we can hope that in a number of years from now, they will be successful, NBC will value them. And if no one has grabbed CH9 in their null they can get rid of the null aimed at Ocala. RAMA Communications already applied for a 300 watt very directional station near Deltona beamed at Orlando. I doubt they built it. But it could stop WNBW from explaning on ch9. I would gladly trash my VHF beams if they moved to UHF, but that is a dream.
post #2204 of 3491
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Originally Posted by nobleach View Post

I ONLY buy the premade satellite grade RG6Q coax from Lowes. If you buy any spooled product, it costs more than double it seems (and I think you it starts at 250')

I paid $85 for Beldin 6Q for 500 ft including shipping. How much is Lowe's cable? The connectors are about 25 cents each in bags of 100. I use a lot of them doing antennas around here. Trouble is it's hard to get paid doing the work!

One of the biggest things is you ruin at least 5 compression fittings learning how to do them right.

I found one thing critical is having a stripper for 6Q, not so much for 59 or 6, but 6Q can be a bugger to push in a compression fitting if the shield is not just so. Plus the cost of a compression tool, and connectors.

I would presume Bleach that the Lowes premade cables are compression fittings?
post #2205 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

yes that is why I mentioned the Tekk that looks like a Silver Sensor, because many have had them work and well some it hasn't.

But they are not gang busters on VHF, as you say you have yours hooked in parallel to a dipole. Basically you are adding a VHF antenna to your UHF Tekk. Which is great and inventive, it's just not a Tekk on it's own.

I would guess based on NoBleach's Y-5-7-13 where he gets 80% at 30 ft in NW Gainesville, you should see about the same with bigger YA-1713 in NE Gainesville. WNBW begining so low power drops off fast in signal. I am still shocked where NoBleach lives his meter is not pegged with his small VHF beam, but he has done tests now and it's working. That is just as little signal as there is from the station.

I don't see how they can say they are running enough power when in the city of their coverage it takes a deep fringe antenna to receive them. Even TVFool says they are a green channel for most of Gainesville but signal reports here beg to differ they are much much much weaker.

Like I said we can hope that in a number of years from now, they will be successful, NBC will value them. And if no one has grabbed CH9 in their null they can get rid of the null aimed at Ocala. RAMA Communications already applied for a 300 watt very directional station near Deltona beamed at Orlando. I doubt they built it. But it could stop WNBW from explaning on ch9. I would gladly trash my VHF beams if they moved to UHF, but that is a dream.

Piggie, I had an email from the WNBW tech. and he was mentioned (paraphrased):
1st: Digital VHF signal waves are weak penetrating walls, and they have more noise than analog VHF.
2nd: Due to purchasing the special order tech. equiptment, worth close to a million dollars, the KW's can't be changed. BUT the signal could be altered to be NON-Directional- once analog 9 is off the air in Orlando and the FCC permits.

With all that said, I am so glad I can actually get all the stations.


post #2206 of 3491
The $12 rabbit ears worked first time, no problem, crystal clear. Just put them in the window that faces Newberry, hooked it up, scanned the channels and tadah Brian Williams nightly news. I live on Ginnie Springs road so I am at the outer edge of the area you were talking about.

I also found out we can get the Atlanta NBC from alldirect through the sat. May do that for the game so I can have it on both TVs without running cables everywhere.

Thanks for all the help! I had nightmares about people showing up at my house an not being able to watch the game.
post #2207 of 3491
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Originally Posted by JayPR View Post

Piggie, I had an email from the WNBW tech. and he was mentioned (paraphrased):
1st: Digital VHF signal waves are weak penetrating walls, and they have more noise than analog VHF.
2nd: Due to purchasing the special order tech. equiptment, worth close to a million dollars, the KW's can't be changed. BUT the signal could be altered to be NON-Directional- once analog 9 is off the air in Orlando and the FCC permits.

With all that said, I am so glad I can actually get all the stations.


There are two techs there. The chief engineer and his assistant. I talked to them on the phone about a week ago and the chief didn't think NBC would let them go omni-directional. Political not technical or FCC rules.

So if you heard this within the last week that is good news they would consider going non-directional. That alone would cause me to see a 6db increase in their signal. More than I could without stacking 4 antennas!

They could add an amplifier to the system. If I remember right they put out about 900 watts into the feedline, to get their 4.9 KW ERP. If I remember right their antenna is only about 9db gain. Then they used the Ch53.0 heliax for feed line which is 3 inch. At 187 MHz, that is only .65 db per 100m, at 300 m only say 2db loss in 300 meters of line since connectors, jumpers, etc. Maybe even more like 3 db. Which give the antenna system and feed line about 6 db gain. Or about 1100 watts actual transmit power. I might be off a few hundred watts but it's close.

It's possible to turn down the power and run it into a amplifier. Not cheap, but possible, also not likely.

But if they were to just go omni it would help a lot.

So how long ago did you get this email? Because months back they hoped to go omni but last I heard it was off the table again.
post #2208 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

The $12 rabbit ears worked first time, no problem, crystal clear. Just put them in the window that faces Newberry, hooked it up, scanned the channels and tadah Brian Williams nightly news. I live on Ginnie Springs road so I am at the outer edge of the area you were talking about.

I also found out we can get the Atlanta NBC from alldirect through the sat. May do that for the game so I can have it on both TVs without running cables everywhere.

Thanks for all the help! I had nightmares about people showing up at my house an not being able to watch the game.

Actually you probably stronger there. Plus it's flat as a pancake between Newberry and Ginnie or High Springs. (I used to live in Appaloosa Trails). Well now we know those in that area don't need much. Good news.

If you are feeding an HD TV with the rabbit ears WNBW should be higher resolution than satellite or cable.

Also how much extra cable did you get with the antenna or are you using the 4 feet that comes with it?


Did you try any UHF or get any UHF on the scan?
post #2209 of 3491
When I had the antenna in the window towards Newberry it picked up WCJB, WUFT, My11 and I think one other on the scan, but the picture did not come in. I moved the antenna back to the familly room and got a picture on all of them but WNBW. I had 16 feet of cable to put the antenna in the window facing Newberry.
post #2210 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

I paid $85 for Beldin 6Q for 500 ft including shipping. How much is Lowe's cable? The connectors are about 25 cents each in bags of 100. I use a lot of them doing antennas around here. Trouble is it's hard to get paid doing the work!

One of the biggest things is you ruin at least 5 compression fittings learning how to do them right.

I found one thing critical is having a stripper for 6Q, not so much for 59 or 6, but 6Q can be a bugger to push in a compression fitting if the shield is not just so. Plus the cost of a compression tool, and connectors.

I would presume Bleach that the Lowes premade cables are compression fittings?

Oh I typically cut the ends off of them and do new compressions. I have yet to find a good stripper (do not let my wife read that last sentence) Right now, I'm trying to get used to the finger loop twirly kind. When I worked for the cable company, they all used the clamp and rotate type. I also have a pair of the typical yellow handled cutter style (crappy strip and crimp all in one) I have a NICE pair of crimpers but I don't even do crimp style fittings anymore.

What do you recommend for a decent RG6Q stripper?
post #2211 of 3491
Thread Starter 
I don't have a dish at 129 yet. I'm setup on 61.5, and 110/119 (two dishes). I have good line of site for sat so getting 129 should not be a problem once the locals are online, and dish does a swap or etc.

As far Dish installers go, I've had the same person coming out for every Dish upgrade or install.
post #2212 of 3491
Thread Starter 
Some good news for those awaiting NBC on Dish for Gainesville... Here it is.
GAINESVILLE NBC - WNBW 9 / Dish Channel 7792.

So now we just await the HD verison of these channels to come online soon...
post #2213 of 3491
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Originally Posted by jbutah View Post

When I had the antenna in the window towards Newberry it picked up WCJB, WUFT, My11 and I think one other on the scan, but the picture did not come in. I moved the antenna back to the familly room and got a picture on all of them but WNBW. I had 16 feet of cable to put the antenna in the window facing Newberry.

Thanks for the added data.

This doesn't surprise me and confirms the fact that WNBW is just so picky for anyone not within 5 miles or so of the tower (you are about 13) has to have their WNBW antenna just so. Normally at 13 miles from a station, one could put the antenna about anywhere, but WNBW runs such low power.

Since you can find spots in the house (though not the same spot) that will pick up all the channels, that would mean one would need two indoor antenna combined, or a modest outdoor antenna.

I would say that a Winegard HD-1080 or Antennacraft HBU22 would be needed on a short pole of say 15 feet (clear the eave if one on the south side) or above the peak on the north side in that Ginnie to High Springs area.

If you can believe the manufacturers specs, the HBU22 might be a little better. Basically without an amp, one would have a db or 2 after the loss in the feed line over a dipole (rabbit ears). But it would put the antenna up in the clear where there should be more signal than indoors.

If someone wanted to attic mount, they should upgrade the the Winegard 7694P to over come attic loss.

That is a LOT of antenna at 13 miles.

It would be interesting if I complied all this data and presented it to WNBW, but honestly, I don't think it would mean much to them. Other constraints to them staying on low power are much greater.

Regardless, you have a Super Bowl antenna and can now also watch NBC. Glad it worked out so simple. If you get addicted to the better picture OTA try one of the above antennas. Buy the pole at Lowe's, where they are the least expensive per NoBleach.
post #2214 of 3491
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

Some good news for those awaiting NBC on Dish for Gainesville... Here it is.
GAINESVILLE NBC - WNBW 9 / Dish Channel 7792.

So now we just await the HD verison of these channels to come online soon...

That is good news and probably good jbutah only bought rabbit ears.

Once they get their HD locals for Gainesville, they could be an exodus from Direct and Cox. Neither of which would hurt my feelings.

:@)

I still like being just over the border and getting Orlando on my dish, as it gives me 2 sets of locals. Once analog goes off any Orlando OTA except some from WESH will be gone.
post #2215 of 3491
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Originally Posted by nobleach View Post

Oh I typically cut the ends off of them and do new compressions. I have yet to find a good stripper (do not let my wife read that last sentence) Right now, I'm trying to get used to the finger loop twirly kind. When I worked for the cable company, they all used the clamp and rotate type. I also have a pair of the typical yellow handled cutter style (crappy strip and crimp all in one) I have a NICE pair of crimpers but I don't even do crimp style fittings anymore.

What do you recommend for a decent RG6Q stripper?

I guess slowly we find out more about each other's past technically. Now I know why you installed and used compression fittings from cable days knowledge. Also being free from the man, lol. I am NOT a fan of cable TV and never was. Satellite is much better solution than that huge plant that it seems no cable company in the world is able to maintain very well.

Well I use a finger twirly stripper. I find it works pretty good. My concern is sooner or later the little razor blade will become dull. So far they haven't.

I searched and found my stripper as I had forgotten where I bought it.

http://www.amazon.com/Paladin-1257-2...167206&sr=1-13

I didn't buy from amazon, I bought their kit

http://www.amazon.com/Paladin-4910-S...159974-7276552

And that was about what I paid for the kit. Seems it was just under a $100 bill shipped. I have been happy.

The coax spreading tool works great on old old pieces of RG59 where the jacket is so stiff you can't push on the fitting to compress it. But the flare tool will make 6Q impossible to then put a fitting on, tried that! Some plain rg6 it helps, others it doesn't.

I bought that kit after reading, etc, where person after person said no matter how good you are , a stripper is king. I haven't been disappointed yet.

I use no extra pressure than that of it's spring. I just twirl it. I am sure it's not good for day in day out stuff. I don't feel it's the quality of the compression tool in the kit.

The reason I decided on that compression tool is will also do BNC and TNC fittings, which the TNC is what all my cell phones use for connectors.

It probably wasn't the stripper you were looking for (besides the one the wife would get mad at) but it works. I would recommend it to someone that does say 20 connections a year or so.

The problem I have with the tool kit is the bloody neighbors know I have one and they say, just a couple of connectors? I tell them well, between my stash of connectors and the tools I would not be standing here with them had I not dished out close to $200. So yeah, a connector is a about 25 cents or so. They never paid me.

I fixed it though! I also have a very very old pair of crimpers. Not even hex, but they make the 2 dimples on the sides. I show up with them now.

I have two BNC hex crimp tools I used when I was in 2 way radio. But I have yet to try either of them on F connector. I have used them on BNC with RG59 for computers and in the TV studio, so they would probably work on a F fitting on RG58, if they go tight enough.
post #2216 of 3491
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

Some good news for those awaiting NBC on Dish for Gainesville... Here it is.
GAINESVILLE NBC - WNBW 9 / Dish Channel 7792.

So now we just await the HD verison of these channels to come online soon...

Is it really live? I have been following the uplink reports on satelliteguys.us and haven't seen it uplinked yet.
post #2217 of 3491
According to a Dish CSR it is supposed to launch tonight by 9 pm.
post #2218 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Piggie View Post

I guess slowly we find out more about each other's past technically. Now I know why you installed and used compression fittings from cable days knowledge. Also being free from the man, lol. I am NOT a fan of cable TV and never was. Satellite is much better solution than that huge plant that it seems no cable company in the world is able to maintain very well.

Well I use a finger twirly stripper. I find it works pretty good. My concern is sooner or later the little razor blade will become dull. So far they haven't.

I searched and found my stripper as I had forgotten where I bought it.

http://www.amazon.com/Paladin-1257-2...167206&sr=1-13

I didn't buy from amazon, I bought their kit

http://www.amazon.com/Paladin-4910-S...159974-7276552

And that was about what I paid for the kit. Seems it was just under a $100 bill shipped. I have been happy.

The coax spreading tool works great on old old pieces of RG59 where the jacket is so stiff you can't push on the fitting to compress it. But the flare tool will make 6Q impossible to then put a fitting on, tried that! Some plain rg6 it helps, others it doesn't.

I bought that kit after reading, etc, where person after person said no matter how good you are , a stripper is king. I haven't been disappointed yet.

I use no extra pressure than that of it's spring. I just twirl it. I am sure it's not good for day in day out stuff. I don't feel it's the quality of the compression tool in the kit.

The reason I decided on that compression tool is will also do BNC and TNC fittings, which the TNC is what all my cell phones use for connectors.

It probably wasn't the stripper you were looking for (besides the one the wife would get mad at) but it works. I would recommend it to someone that does say 20 connections a year or so.

The problem I have with the tool kit is the bloody neighbors know I have one and they say, just a couple of connectors? I tell them well, between my stash of connectors and the tools I would not be standing here with them had I not dished out close to $200. So yeah, a connector is a about 25 cents or so. They never paid me.

I fixed it though! I also have a very very old pair of crimpers. Not even hex, but they make the 2 dimples on the sides. I show up with them now.

I have two BNC hex crimp tools I used when I was in 2 way radio. But I have yet to try either of them on F connector. I have used them on BNC with RG59 for computers and in the TV studio, so they would probably work on a F fitting on RG58, if they go tight enough.

I was taught by my former boss (whom was also a ham) how to do the crimp fittings properly. In the studio, everything was RG6 with Coax to BNC connectors so when we moved off the cable company's head end property to our own production company, I had to set it all up myself.

I really imagine things quite differently these days as back then we had to have a blackburst generator and timebase corrector connected to all of our analog equipment. I was always pleased when I looked at our vectorscope and saw the color bars PERFECTLY hitting their mark... thinking, yeah, that's what happens when ONE GUY sets it up.

I just bought the Ideal from Lowes (because I seem to be there every day) http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...pers&l3=45-603

It's really only semi-decent. It doesn't seem to get through quad shielding all that well as I find I'm constantly having to peel it back and cut off some with a pair of cutters.

This is what I used to have at the cable company:
http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...?prodId=45-526

I was far happier with it and perhaps I'll buy another.... and I think by now we know that if I THINK I'm going to buy something.... I'm probably already halfway in the car to go get it.

I don't really do this type of work for anyone. I do plenty of drywall and trim carpentry for everyone under the sun. Want to talk about giving away freebies, I've never made anyone pay for nails, caulk, joint tape or mud..... I'm a sucker cause I love doing this stuff.

Lord help me if anyone finds out I can do dish installs too.... ;-)
post #2219 of 3491
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Originally Posted by nobleach View Post

I was taught by my former boss (whom was also a ham) how to do the crimp fittings properly. In the studio, everything was RG6 with Coax to BNC connectors so when we moved off the cable company's head end property to our own production company, I had to set it all up myself.

I really imagine things quite differently these days as back then we had to have a blackburst generator and timebase corrector connected to all of our analog equipment. I was always pleased when I looked at our vectorscope and saw the color bars PERFECTLY hitting their mark... thinking, yeah, that's what happens when ONE GUY sets it up.

I just bought the Ideal from Lowes (because I seem to be there every day) http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...pers&l3=45-603

It's really only semi-decent. It doesn't seem to get through quad shielding all that well as I find I'm constantly having to peel it back and cut off some with a pair of cutters.

This is what I used to have at the cable company:
http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...?prodId=45-526

I was far happier with it and perhaps I'll buy another.... and I think by now we know that if I THINK I'm going to buy something.... I'm probably already halfway in the car to go get it.

I don't really do this type of work for anyone. I do plenty of drywall and trim carpentry for everyone under the sun. Want to talk about giving away freebies, I've never made anyone pay for nails, caulk, joint tape or mud..... I'm a sucker cause I love doing this stuff.

Lord help me if anyone finds out I can do dish installs too.... ;-)

The Paldin goes through quad shield, but it takes a couple more loops around to be sure, since it's a PITA to have to put it back on the same place to do more.

Glad you pointed it out if mine dies that I have. What not to and what to buy. Still I would recommend the Paldin for someone looking in that price range.

Ah, guess I talked more about my background than you. Our background are more similar than I thought. I used to tweak production, master control switchers and digital switchers. The Production were the worst. They are basically many many amplifier circuits and transistor switching back in the day. Now they are mostly chips and software. One could spend a week on a green switcher to get it working right. Finding why the chroma is distorted on one input but only if the waveform generator was running (it would be a bad wire in the frame as the frames were all wire wrapped). A bad wire connecting two unrelated circuits. Still just going through all the inputs, all the outputs to be sure they are all unity gain and that pretty vectorscope had all the color dots right. Then packing it up so shipping could send it to the customer. Just in time for them to roll in another one from production. Really those were the days. Between Vital, Intergroup and Digital Services Corporation (not the national one) there were about 500 or more manufacturing jobs right here in Gainesville. At one point or another I worked at all of them including WCJB. I found manufacturing more fun the TV station, but TV station is fun too.

I have put more BNC's on the end of coax than you can imagine. They didn't want technicians wasting time to do that, but they wanted us to put an inhouse order in to have them made which could take a day if fast. If we needed another coax we needed it now. So we hid one in test area we stole out of production, lol. Testing a switcher took about 50 coaxes hooked up at the same time. Each station had it's one DA so we could feed 8 input channels at the same time to test cross talk, etc.

And at 3.58MHz it takes a bit of coax difference to make two channels different phase, but you wanted them all withing a few inches of each other. If someone came and "borrowed" one of your test coaxes, it was ground to whip them with one, lol.

I can do Drywall, but I am slow and need help hanging it not being a huge guy. And to me carpet is just laid on the floor. My oldest kid is good at all that construction stuff. I fix his antenna and stuff and he does the construction stuff.

Yeah, the local restaurant here found out I can point a dish and well now I have to setup their E* dish. I have never setup E* only having done D* dishes in the past. Found out it's preferred to use those abbreviations I guess so Google doesn't pick up the real words? Anyway told to do it in another thread, no big deal. I like obfuscating them.

Too bad it seems all this past knowledge will still get me a cup of coffee if I have a buck fifty and tax.

Something will break or I will :@)
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I am not sure who here goes around this site but if you don't, even though it passed the Senate, it failed in the House.

HURRAY!!!

So we are still at 20 some days and counting until the interference goes away!!!

I am one happy pig :@) Big OINKS all around!
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