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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
the picture on my new Toshiba 62" hm84 looks a little fuzzy. I don't know how else describe it. The picture looks like a camera that is just a little bit out of foucs. Any thoughts? I use direct tv, so reception is not an issue.
post #2 of 16
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Originally posted by noname1
the picture on my new Toshiba 62" hm84 looks a little fuzzy. I don't know how else describe it. The picture looks like a camera that is just a little bit out of foucs. Any thoughts? I use direct tv, so reception is not an issue.
What kind of connection are you using? I tried my DirecTV with composite and S-video and the picture was horrible. Now using component and the picture is a bit "soft" compared to HD, but quite good now.

My biggest surprise was how good some VHS tapes look even with a composite connection and how much difference in PQ there was between tapes I've viewed many times and those I've watched less often.
post #3 of 16
This is the result of low resolution upscaled. Satellite signals are especially low in resolution. When the TV cannot accurately guess at the missing information, it makes the picture look out of focus.
post #4 of 16
Do you also have the problem with DVD's? Have you tried any of the basic user adjustments (contrast, sharpness, etc.)? On my DLP (Sammy DLP) DVD's look really good and HDTV looks excellent, but on analog cable (not same as you) the pic ranges from horrible to decent - had to "play" a lot with the user settings to get it to look decent.
post #5 of 16
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my dvd's are much better, so maybe it is my connection. I know nothing about component cables. The pictures I've seen of them show 3 "plug in" cables. Do I use these instead of my co ax cable that goes from my receiver to my tv, or in addition to the co ax cable? Also I have no "s-video" cable hooked up to my receiver? Do I need one? What Kind of component cables should I buy? Thanks for any responses. The fuzzy pictures really show on close ups of faces. It's driving me crazy to spend $3,000 on a tv and look at fuzzy actors!
post #6 of 16
Usually, image fidelity, in descending order of quality, is YPbPr, S-video, composite video (NTSC), and RF composite NTSC (coax). It's useful to hook them all up, IMO, since cables are cheap compared to displays. There are numerous posts in the hardware forum and elsewhere on component cables. Don't get the cheapest, and for short/moderate cable runs there's no need for very costly brands. Since program sources vary widely in quality, switching to various inputs may filter out artifacts, although this usually reduces image resolution, too.

Often see complaints about the compression used for both SD and HDTV by DBS services (and cable TV or multicasting OTA stations). The clearer DVD images suggests that could be the fuzziness problem. Also, since you seemed to using RF NTSC (coax) generally, which is the lowest-resolution most heavily filtered signal source, that seems be a source of fuzziness when 'soft' images are greatly enlarged. H/DTV images shouldn't look fuzzy at all, although there's a range of quality between programs and sources. -- John
post #7 of 16
I don't think that TV has a digital tuner so the only way your going to get hd is using the component jacks or DVI or HDMI inputs. As stated above the SD channels might look better using coax or composit inputs. How far away are you setting from this set?

Are you using a hi def tuner from direct tv?
post #8 of 16
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Originally posted by noname1
the picture on my new Toshiba 62" hm84 looks a little fuzzy. I don't know how else describe it. The picture looks like a camera that is just a little bit out of foucs. Any thoughts? I use direct tv, so reception is not an issue.
I had the Toshiba 62HM84 for about 3 months. By fuzzy, I'm guessing you mean the picture isn't getting as sharp as you'd like? If that's what you are saying I always thought that everything looked a little softer than I preferred. DVDs were much better than direct tv but in alot of cases sharpness just wasn't up to par and I don't think you can as my guess is that the processing Toshiba described in the press release regarding the TV softens the picture to reduce the jagged edge look. Contrast was great on this TV but the poor HDMI picture with ghosting and graininess prompted me to have it replaced with the Mitsubishi. If you are still in you're exchange policy you might want to make sure you can live with this. I originally chose the Toshiba over the Mitsubishi because it was brighter, hadd better blacks, and it was cheaper. Now that I have the Mitsubishi I realize how soft the picturer really was as the Mits gets really sharp and cleans up poor signals MUCH better than the Toshiba. As I had originally thought, the Toshiba was brighter and it did have the better black levels too. All of the new technology sets has their drawbacks, you just have to decide which one is best for you. I was satisfied with the Toshiba but the HDMI connection just gave a poor picture which left you with 2 component inputs. Now that I have the Mits I'm much happier with it but really miss the brightness and black levels on the Toshiba. Sorry to rant as I'm telling you all this because I personally could never get the sharpness up to par on the 2 Toshibas that I had no matter what I tried.
post #9 of 16
Also check to see if you are using any kind of noise reduction. This will soften the PQ also
post #10 of 16
Noname1, is your satellite receiver SD or HD? If it is SD, does it have a component video output?
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
it's a sd receiver. I just tried s-video, and component. Neither helped very much. 3 grand and I just can't stand these fuzzy faces and the fuzzy words on the espn news ticker. Makes my eyes hurt after about 15 minutes of watching it. If you guys have any further adivce I'd greatly appreciate it. If this is as good as it gets, then I offically have buyers remorse.
post #12 of 16
Get high definition DirectTV or cable and you will see a beautiful sharp picture. That's the only way to get rid of your remorse.

It's a well known fact (well at least to owners) that standard definition TV blown up and displayed on most newer HD sets just doesn't look that great.

I repeat, get HD. It is worth it.
post #13 of 16
The old NTSC Standard Definition IS fuzzy... it was designed when TVs were 12", and never meant to be blown up to 50". That is why we are changing to the new ATSC standard, HDTV. HDTV signals are needed for your HDTV to present a High Definition picture, they have 5 times the detail of SDTV. HD signals require new kinds of cables, old types can't handle all the information of digital.

I don't think you have your SD sat STB hooked up correctly... you should see considerably better quality with SD Component or SVideo than with Composite and especially RF over Coax (fake channel 3 is the worst). To really see what your new TV can do, you need an HD sat STB & digital connections.
post #14 of 16
Do you have the sharpness turned way down?
post #15 of 16
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Originally posted by noname1
it's a sd receiver. I just tried s-video, and component. Neither helped very much. 3 grand and I just can't stand these fuzzy faces and the fuzzy words on the espn news ticker. Makes my eyes hurt after about 15 minutes of watching it. If you guys have any further adivce I'd greatly appreciate it. If this is as good as it gets, then I offically have buyers remorse.
How in the world can you spend 3k for a DLP HDTV set and not know component cables are? Dare I even ask if you know what DVI/HDMI or even Firewire is. Next time do some research before dropping 3K on any kind of purchase.

Anyway, you should consider returning your TV and getting another one, because the one you have might be defective. Any know DLP's may have their problems, but one of them should be fuzzy or out focused look, however I have observed the Toshiba as having somewhat of less sharper picture than the Mits or Samsung DLP's, but not to the degree you are discribing it.
post #16 of 16
I suggest getting rid of your D receiver and getting an ASTC one and antenna.
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