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Dito.

Yea. I concur. That Atty spelled out what I was thinking.

Problem #1:
Macrovision's (formerly Gemstar) insistance not to directly allow contact from the consumer. They force you to go through the manufacture that has no clue about any of this and doesn't really care. All they do is pass numbers along to MV and wait for a lame reply that is usually wrong.

Problem #2:
Designing the system with no formal support other than filling out some form. By providing a diagonsitic screen, but not providing some way of interperting the most relevent entries.

Problem #3:
By not designing the system to allow the user to speed up the process by palcing the device on thier host cgannel, eliminating the overly long delay while the device searches a couple hundred channels for what an educated comsumer might already know,

Problem #4:
By using confusing, criptic and now outdated terms within those diagonstic screens,

Lastly, problem #5:
Not giving the consumer more credit for information that is readily available regarding all of the above.

End statement of facts.

[quote=videobruce;16325251]Problem #1:
Problem #4:
By using confusing, criptic and now outdated terms within those diagonstic screens,

So your being criptic, who or what is the CEA and how can antenna web help?

Thanks Gregg

That's his SIGNATURE BOZOO

Not part of TVGOS

videobruce, big Amen to those. Wasted so much time because of those and lack of information. The manual with my TOSHIBA said it MIGHT take 24 hours to start and it MIGHT take 8 days to fully populate. IF it had said it WILL instead of might it would have saved a lot of worry and wasted time for me.

You mean Bozo?

Just figured that was it but he didn't know how to spell it

I'm in Durham, NC, on TimeWarner Cable without a set-top-box (standard package). I receive ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS all in QAM (plus analog) from the cable. TVGoS went out about a month ago. I tried setting the zip to 00000 overnight but that didn't do anything. The TVGoS screen would have the correct time and would say it found the channel lineup, but I wouldn't get the schedule. I did the hard-reset and let it sit for several days, and now it can't find the time or the channel lineup.

I've tried forcing the channel to QAM for CBS and for analog for CBS but neither setting had any affect.

Is there something else I can try?

dundakitty: I live in Greensboro and just went through the exact same experience with TWC. What happened is UNC-TV used to provide TVGOS, but they dropped it statewide recently. In Greensboro the TVGOS signal recently started being delivered over TWC channel 9 (WFMY-CBS).

When I first lost TVGOS, I emailed a trouble ticket to TWC. Of course the first responders didn't know what I was talking about, first wanting me to reset the cable box (after I told them the problem didn't involve a cable box), then saying they weren't responsible for troubleshooting 3rd party equipment. I kept asking them to ESCALATE (key word) to engineering, and finally it got to a TWC tech in Charlotte (Matt) who had a local engineer from TWC Greensboro call me. The local engr knew exactly what was going on, and told me about WFMY picking up the signal in April. I kept trying various resets and I started getting listings again on April 10. Just setting the zip code to 00000 and then back was NOT sufficient in my case because it didn't force my equipment to search for the new host channel. Other posts in AVS have info on various methods of resetting and forcing the host channel. My sister-in-law, also in Greensboro, just unplugged her unit overnight, plugged it back in, then let it sit for a couple of days, and that worked (much to my surprise).

My advice would be to badger TWC until you find someone who can tell you what is going on in the Triangle in terms of who is going to be delivering TVGOS (probably the CBS station) and when. Hope this helps.

So can you answers my question?

BO@zoo

The one he already answered?

Now that the clock problems have stabilized somewhat after the prolonged DST transition, I decided to revisit using the DTVPal Plus in TVGOS mode to convert TVGOS data received from my local digital CBS station into analog form for my Toshiba ASTC/NTSC TV that uses only analog signals for the TVGOS -- and it seems to be working. And it should work after June 12th.

I set up the DTVPal Plus emulating a Scientific Atlanta cable box according to the manual on input one, and my OTA antennas on input two. I used the zip code from the DTVPAL Plus manual for the TVGOS setup on the TV, and the zip code for the local CBS station on the DTVPal Plus. I left the TV set on input one overnight, and the TVGOS system did get downloads overnight from the digital CBS station via the DTVPal Plus. The TV also locked on the input one so that I could not receive anything on input two, probably due the state the TV was left in after the many experiments I had done during the clock problems. I reset the TV by unplugging it and plugging it back in, and input two started working. The next morning the TVGOS had reset itself and asked for the cable provider again. I selected Comcast, as I had better luck with that than "No Match" in earlier experiments. The listings instantly appeared, although the channel lineup was reduced from a thousand to around 700 with the cable channels -- And, I have received TVGOS downloads for the last two nights successfully, with the TV working normally.

I had to do a lot of editing in the channel editor to turn off the cable channels, but I am able to receive HD broadcasts normally from input two using the ATSC tuner.

One key point is that the the TVGOS host channel found by the TV in the Scientific Atlanta scheme is channel 190. The digital ATSC CBS channel would be 191, as the virtual channel number of the CBS station in Washington, DC is 9.1 -- Scientific Atlanta drops the decimal and adds 100 to the virtual channel numbers, so channel 09.1 becomes 191 on the DTVPal Plus. This may be key to getting it to work. Channel 190 may be the basic data stream including the HD subchannel and the SD subchannels as well as the SCTE 127 data carrying the TVGOS information to be converted and inserted into the analog VBI data output by the DTVPAL Plus. Channel 191 may only have the HD subchannel data.

OK, you joined Jan '09 and those are 1st grade questions. I am not being mean and we all had to go through 1st grade but you apparently have much studying to do. Your post had a smart a__ tone weather it was meant or not.

You apparently need more education then can be given here but I suggest you google "CEA", Consumer Electronics Association and also follow the link given in videobruce SIGNATURE. That will answer your question but you still may not understand.

bruce is dave41736, i forgot my log in (genius). I know its a long time ago but I'm getting my feed from WNED dt, was ota but verizon fios is supplying it now. On another TV TWC PBS 89.1 I had working in March for 2 days, tried the force and can't get it back, using zip 14207 also now btw.

Sorry, but I have no idea what all of that is suppose to mean.

I received an answer from the chief engineer of our 'Host' station in this market stating Macrovision remotely checked their signal and said all was ok. That doesn't answer why I use to receive a packet count and now I don't.
They must have one heck of an antenna.

Originally Posted by dave41736
bruce is dave41736, i forgot my log in (genius). I know its a long time ago but I'm getting my feed from WNED dt, was ota but verizon fios is supplying it now. On another TV TWC PBS 89.1 I had working in March for 2 days, tried the force and can't get it back, using zip 14207 also now btw.

Sorry, but I have no idea what all of that is suppose to mean.

Bruce I'm in your market, I talked to you back in December about using the Batavia zip code. I have been up and running since. I was getting the host (WNED) over the air. I'm also not getting a packet count running the G test. My host, I have FIOS, says 1:71-0. Clock set channel is WNED though. Not sure why I can't get a packet count, the ATSC slicer page shows stats. If I can help you in any way let me know.

Dave's not here anymore, man. You know those postage stamps that we used to lick in the 60's, you know, the ones that said Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds? Anyway, who's bruce, man? (Am I the only one who's head's spinning trying to figure out this secret code?) I worked for 2 days in March too, but the force wasn't with me either, but now I under stand no kwotes...

I haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about. I didn't subscribe to any of that.

My tvgos is working and has been since December. I thought maybe I could help someone especially in the Buffalo area. Sorry I bothered you guys.

dave41736; You aren't bothering anyone. Check your PM's.

You're not bothering anyone. I'm just saying I didn't understand the bruce is dave thing.

I don't either.

After months of intermittent interruptions, there is nothing at all to pickup down here. No time, no version updates (still at 0.00.00). I figure it's got to do with the switch to a digital signal.

I have comcast cable and an antenna. If anybody from the miami/ft lauderdale is getting tvgos, let me know.

I've contacted both my local CBS station and Macrovision about this, hopefully they will do something about it.

Does anyone out there have an LG 32LX1D that has successfully received digital OTA TVGOS? I am awaiting a host channel in South Carolina and cannot verify that my LG will even receive the signal. Macrovision is unsure as well since the version is 08.01.29. LG will not return phone calls (which is not a good sign). A response from anyone with this particular model and has experience with the digital TVGOS would be appreciated.

Frances

look in the Greenville, SC forum on AVS.... many people are reporting that TVGOS told them they are working with SCETV across the state to re-establish guide data "within 2 months"

I got fed up and started using Windows Media Center and stream HD from it to the xbox next to the plasma.

Just talked to Samsung tech support, they said forget it, about getting TVGOS digitally on my TV. There TVs don't support it and there is no plans to do anything about it.

Also talked to my local CBS affiliate and they are broadcasting the TVGOS both in analog and digital but I'm getting nothing.

Guess I'll get a DVR or cable box so I can have a TV guide.

Anybody know any other solutions? Can someone explain DTV pal or whatever it's called?

When I gave up on TVGOS, I spent $60 on a USB tuner for my PC. I use Windows Media Center as my DVR. I stream HD shows to my xbox360 hooked up to my Plasma and love it! So much that I just ordered a Linksys DMA2200 for use on the bedroom TV. The Guide on Media Center works MUCH better than TVGOS; and is accesible right through the xbox.

No cable box fee.
No Tivo fee.
No BS from TVGOS outages.

The Media Center solution is pretty simple if you have a decent PC already.

I have Samsung with TVGOS and it works. I worked with Macrovision via email. They had me do some test, send them data and resets. I took some time but I now get the guide form cable CBS.

Gregg