Why Not Crown? - Page 2

I didnt say anything about dsps or op amps, Im just saying the sound card doesnt drive the amp to the levels that the receiver does.
In other words, I can set the volume all the way up on the computer (+max gain on the amp) and the speakers obviously arent playing as loud as the amp COULD drive them.
Its not that big of a deal, just something to be aware of.

you said envy, and that is the DSP :P

They are two separate, and totally different companies. That are not even remotely related to each other.

I was just refering to the type of card I have.

Ill shut up now.

"warrantty transfers."

Thanks, brickie. Do you know if you need a receipt or do they just go by serial no./mfg date?

Thanks

Noah, that i'm not sure about..I believe it would be just by serial # thoough..I would call and ask them.They are super helpful as far as their customer service goes.

brickie

These are Crown's best amps:
http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/studref.htm

These are Crown's most powerful amps:
http://www.crownaudio.com/itech/pdf/137251.pdf

And these are Crown's original super efficient digital amps (BCA, like the I series above):
http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/k.htm

But they got a whole lot more....

I would say you have three good companies: Crown,QSC, and Sampson

Bob

Probably in that order..

brickie

I'm interested in the Samson Servo 550 amp to power my Crowson Tactical Transducers.

It has balanced 1/4" inputs. Are there adapters that can accomodate my standard unbalanced raca plugs? It does have binding post outputs.

Available at a few shops for $250. Are there authorized Samson dealers or is the warranty valid no matter where it is purchased.

Pardon my questions as I have no knowledge of pro audio gear.

Shelly

Sampson has a S-Convert which will take low level RCA and bring upto balanced level input requrements. I think its -15 to +6 variable gain adjustment.

Bob

"samson" should actually be way down on the list.....

more like this order...

crown, carver professional, qsc, crest, mackie, yamaha, peavey, electro-voice, carvin, rane, hafler, alesis, blue ice...................................behringer, american audio, gemsound, nady, and THEN samson....

on the other hand.... samson might be even a little lower on the scale of quality...

Not sure why you're ranking Blue ICe so low, unless it's simply because not many people are using them. It is larger, but has the advantage of being dead quiet and ice cold .

i just ranked them as i see them being used in the professional sound reinforcement world....

as most professionals see them...

Wow, you can really get an amplifier education reading the Crown website support pages!
Still have a couple of ? though. Are these amps or the Technical Hifi Blue Ice "true" balanced
designs? If not, are they still quiet at reasonable listening levels? Also has anyone inquired as to the slew rates?
Thanks to all for bringing this alternative amplifier option to our attention. This has to be the most important thread i've read in this forum for advancing the sound quality of the masses.(poor)

" just ranked them as i see them being used in the professional sound reinforcement world....

as most professionals see them..."

I disagree on your ranking... and am curious on how compiled that list.

Bob

from working in the pro audio business (sound reinforcement) for the past 25 years....

and the main purpose of my "list" was to illustrate exactly how professional users feel about the samson amplifiers... at least all the professional sound guys that i have worked with over the years

most people in the business wouldn't touch a samson amp if it was given to them

Likewise myself also in the industryfor many years. So you should be familiar with Proavmagazines questionaire about products used in the industry, be it 4ohm or 8ohm speakers or 70volt and 100 volt systems and what amplifiers contractors are using to power their systems.

I gonna give a link and back up my product knowledge.

www.proavmagazine.com

P.S. This is not to start a fight just back up from what I know,heard, and read.

Bob

Couldn't agree more, although I'd probably add in Ashly & Stewart between yamaha and Peavey. Certainly Samson's placement in your list is acurate!

no offense bob....

but most people "in the industry" know how to spell "samson"

and


i would accept one post as a typo.... but two posts in a row with the same mistake - no...

and as you can see.... M NEWMAN agrees with my assessment of samson amps


btw - doing a search on the link you provided return zero returns on anything samson

I disagree on your ranking... and am curious on how compiled that list.

Bob


O.k. I'am not being a smart ass but no where on any of my post am I pushing Samson Amps . Kudos on your part for the spelling mistake, but at least I can read and all I asked for was how you compiled your list? nothing I said except for recommending a s-convert was ever mentioned about Samson?

Do want to read every post over again?

As far as M NEWMAN and swordfish22 go you don't know me and I don't know you so we can't really form an opinion about each other can we?

Bob

you have a very short memory....

you posted

putting samson in the same sentence as crown and qsc is definitely making a recommendation

i have formed no opinion about you in any way.... i really don't care...

but i thought that adding my opinion and impressions about samson amplifiers was useful to this discussion

Who are you people? And why is it if you say so its just that?

Where are your facts to back up your list?

Or is it just your opinion?

Bob

do you have a reading comprehension problem bob???

i just posted

and

i thought i was being very clear as to how i arrived at my opinion

For my purposes, I'm looking for an inexpensive amp to power tactile transducers (similar to shakers, buttkickers et al but different technology). I don't think that sound quality is as important as the transducers only receive 120hz and down from the LFE channel.

Is there something about the Samson 550 that I should know about in terms of meeting my specific needs?

I'm not challenging the collective knowledge here or endorsing Samson. It is relatively inexpensive for 250wpc into 4 ohms (the transducers are 6 ohms).

Thanks again.

Shelly

When I had my business I used Samson and never had a problem " 8ohm use"
I always liked QSC for outside "70volt stuff" Crown is Excellant! I have two K2's in my garage with racks and EQ's if somebody wants them. Mostly from doing Goverment and houses of worship.

I worked on the East Coast mainly NJ,NY, and some Pa. and did O.K. till a bad employee accident and OSHA fine did me in.

Now I do Engineering work for Time Warner, still miss the work, but not the head aches with employees and customers.

I'am not here to argue just to learn something new every day.

Bob

here is a much better amp for about the same price brand new (even cheaper on ebay)

http://store.yahoo.com/djgear/xls202powam.html

it is rated conservatively at 200 watts per channel into 4 ohms, bridged mono 500 watts into 4 ohms, and has a much larger power supply than the samson servo 550

http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/xlsspec.htm

Thanks for the prompt reply and link.

I had seriously considered the Crown amps after reading much of this thread, but I cannot have extra noise from the fan in my theater. I had thought that all the Crown amps with cooling fans were loud.

Is this specific Crown amp quiet?

Shelly

as mentioned in the long thread on pro amps... with a simple resistor added to the fan power cord - the fan becomes almost inaudible

Have you looked at Guitammer's Buttkicker amp, then? Pretty killer value for a 2200 watt amp with no fans - don't use it for anything other than tactiles though, as it's not really an audio grade amp. It was designed to push insane amounts of power into a 4 or 2 ohm tactile transducer load for very little money, not drive subs or other speakers. Here's an example:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...362783-1881665

A search will yield more....