ATI HDTV Wonder: Step-by-Step WMCE - Page 5

I have succesfully installed the analog tuner with MCE and can record with the seperate analog tuner. So it all works fine. Then i added the drivers for the ATI HDTV Wonder and all is fine under Hardware howerver when i go to TV setup i dont get DTV setup. I only can setup the regular analog channels. I have also tried to manually set it up and no success any thoughts...

I recently got the ATI HDTV Worder set up in WMCE 2K5 using the steps in this thread It's been working great except that I can't get Nvidia DVD decoder to work. I keep getting a decoder error screen telling me to restart or reboot everytime I start Live TV. I switched to the Cyberlink DVD decoder and now it works fine.

Last night I bought an Audigy 2 ZS card and now there is no audio when watching HDTV, either live or recorded. Does anyone here using the Audigy 2 ZS card had any issues with ATI HDTV setup? I'm currently using the analog outputs to a 5.1 speaker setup. I also just installed the Audio 2 ZS drivers and did not install the other Creative apps to keep the bloat down.

Dell 8400 3.0GHz
1 Gig Ram
ATI HDTV Wonder
WinPVR 150 MCE
Audigy 2 ZS

Although I do not have the Audigy 2 ZS (I have an audigy though), I was unable to get any sound when watching live HD through MCE while recorded content played fine. What worked for me was to drop the hardware acceleration on the sound card.

To do this:
Start -> Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio Devices
On Volume Tab Select Advanced in the Speaker Settings groupbox
On Advanced Audio Properties dialog select the Performance Tab
Drop Hardware acceleration down until sound works (Mine was one up from none).

Hope that helps.

conman06:
i am just wondering if you have all the devices listed properly in device manager for the DTV Wonder. there should be something like 5. i believe i had a similar problem as you and needed to redo the hdtv rollup update from microsoft which then took the number of DTV Wonder devices from 3 to 5, and voila! it worked after that (for a while anyway). good luck

Are there any known issues with using the HDTV Wonder in MCE05 with the Dell 2005FPW LCD monitor?

It's native resolution is 1680x1050. thanks!

The HDTV Wonder has absolutely nothing to do with the display device used. It is purely a video capture card.

For those looking for installing an HD wonder without another tuner, a really old guide I wrote is still probably a good place to look:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ghlight=jotter

I'm TRYNG to install a HDTV Wonder card,it has BOTH HDTV and Analog.
So far from ATI..joke!

1st E-mail: How to INSTALL a ATI Video card( Have a Leadtek A400 (GF6800 GT 256meg)

2nd E-mail How to install the Multimedia program (came with the download)

ONLY device that installed was the remote!
The drivers would NOT install
I have the Nvidia DVD decoder
Multimedia program would stop installing at error -RegDBGetKeyValueEX Failed

SO! what do I use as a program to see and switch channels..I don,t have Multimedia XP?

ABIT AN7 Athlon XP 3200 (400fsb) Dual 512meg Dual channel DDR memory

AGP 8x GF6800 GT 256meg DDR-3 memory

Slot 1 empty covered by fan
Slot two SCSI Tape Backup
Slot - 3 HDTV Wonder
Slot - 4 Audigy Plat-2/EX
Slot - 5 empty

I do have other Analog TV cards that worked fine...Old Hauppage PCI tuner,Pinncle PCI
and a ATI wonder pro NTSC card!(weird stuff)

Reinstalled Winxp pro about 3 months ago!

Any Ideas Anyone!

Cheers Dennis

I Did try to move it to Slot 5- NoT Good! did not work....slot 3 seems to be the place for it. according to manual AN7 PCI SLOT 1 SHARES SIGNALS WITH PCI -5 AND SATA.....Just thought you would love to know that(grin)
I got 4 items :

ATI DTV Wonder Digital AV -BDA-BDA Capture Devices and Digital tuner Device!

I cannot get it to self load the drivers..BuT can load Em,manualy..Depends which ones you pick to get the right one! (grin) there are Two that don't like each other!
One is the Digital Tuner and the other is the Analog and Digital tuner!
When I get them in there, the IRQ location is 16 or 18 on ALL devices and not shared with others! It,s a pain that MS did not allow one to change or lock out a intruding device.
so far,batting Zero! any help would be used!
The HDTV wonder card I have has both Analog and Digital tuner!
and also came with the Remote gizmo (RF) THAT was the ONLY part that installed!
I have a Hauppuge WINTV older one! a Leadtek USB II Winfast TV ...at hand,and somewhere a ATI TV wonder Pro. They all worked fine! WHY not the HDTV one?
what is with their lousy software?

Cheers Dennis

Argggg! don't remind me! been there/done that!(grin)

I,m Baaaacck! I got a NEW copy of XP pro sp-2 my old copy of XP upgrade got pinholes in the disk somehow,so I could not reinstall it!

Anyway! here,s the problem's:

new install XP......install Nvidia Geforce 6800 GT w/DVD decoder...

Setup HDTV in second slot as it has ONLY the ATI card IRQ active!

run install!
drivers would NOT install.........Install MANUALY.....Working fine IRQ 17 on all!

SiSoftware Sandra

0 : System timer
1 : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
4 : COM1
4 : Communications Port (COM1)
6 : Standard floppy disk controller
8 : System CMOS/real time clock
9 : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
11 : NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
13 : Numeric data processor
14 : Primary IDE Channel
15 : Secondary IDE Channel
16 : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
17 : ATI DTV Wonder Analog Audio Capture Device
17 : ATI DTV Wonder Analog AV Capture Device
17 : ATI DTV Wonder Digital AV Capture Device
17 : ATI DTV Wonder Digital BDA Capture Device
17 : ATI DTV Wonder Digital BDA Capture Device
18 : Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controller
18 : Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller
19 : Creative SB Audigy
19 : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
20 : Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
21 : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
21 : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
22 : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller



went to install ATI decoder! FAILED cannot find ATI hardware(HUH!)
Wait a min! it's there,and I can PROVE it!(grin)
WHy me! darn it! I just noticed on retrospect,The TUNERS missing(grin) nowonder it did'nt work! I did find out one thing thou,use the single Digital tuner rather than the dual as ATI don't Support the Analog one(what a crock,they have it on the darn card)

anyway just for grins I stuck in my RADeon 8500 and Suprize it worked! mostly
I have ONE problem! ******CRASHING****** sometimes!
I used the WatchHDTV program,which worked right away,real nice!
Nice pictures,I hung it on my outside ANT and it works,don't believe anyone if they tell you to get a NEW ANT! mine goes back to 87 when we moved into this house,and it works great!

In the EVENTS viewer I get this ERROR: Microsoft never heard of it!

The COM+ Event System detected a bad return code during its internal processing. HRESULT was 8007041F from line 44 of d:\\qxp_slp\\com\\com1x\\src\\events\ ier1\\eventsystemobj. cpp.

Now that I,ve programmed the watchHDTV with all the local stations it shows the Screen sounds off for 2 seconds and crashes! I get these Errors in the event log!

The COM+ Event System failed to create an instance of the subscriber partition:{41E90F3E-56C1-4633-81C3-6E8BAC8BDD70}!new:{D3938AB0-5B9D-11D1-8DD2-00AA004ABD5E}. CoGetObject returned HRESULT 8007041F.

Note these two have the same address location

The COM+ Event System attempted to fire the EventObjectChange::ChangedSubscription event but received a bad return code. HRESULT was 80040201.

WMIAdaptor

4099 Error

Open of service failed. This one shows up at the Start and END


Apart from this it looks great when it worked! Now I wonder what will happen if I put my BETTER video card back in(grin)

9/1/2005

Hey! wake up GEEK,where ARE you?

anyway! Put my Nvid back and everything worked fine, EXCEPT !

The picture is like a color Negitive,a little washed out,how can I change the Color and other things?

9/2/2005

HULLO! ANYONE HOME?

Just for laughs:

got this back from ATI:

The HDTV will work with the Radeon 9600 or higher (not with an 8500 series card).

We are not sure how it worked with the Radeon 8500 series card, but HDTV requires directX 9 on a hardware level, the video card you have supports only directX 8 (on a hardware level).



The previous info you relayed to us indicates you have an Nvidia 6800 card?

YET!

Ahhhh! Previous info:
Ok! Since I last sent post! I installed my Radeon 8500 I had and everything else installed.

I use the WatchHDTV program to setup the TV as the only thing I got on the Multmedia program was EASYShare,no TV setup!

now as I was setting up the TV I sometimes got dumped!

Once I got all the Stations setup,activating the TV would cause a complete CRASH! REBOOT!
I would get sound and video for about 5 seconds!

This from Shabu ???? Wonder where Support IS ????(grin) he cannot read that's for sure!!


News Flash! 9/7/05

All working fine! All that was needed was to play a DVD through the system ????

I watched a movie tonight and just for grins I activated the HDTV tuner..and up it came! Woooo!

Boy! am I suprized!

don,t need you after all(grin)

9/6/2005

Tips:

INSTALLING on a XP pro system:

Use a Radeon 8600 or higher,(I used an 8500,it worked,see earlier note) if you can and install ALL ATI,s files!Then install WATCHHDTV program, once finshed and you have video and sound,reinstall the NVIDIA card,you may get a lousy washed out picture as I did,It sounds weird,but it worked,GET a DVD movie and run it on MS Media,after that,it should come up fine! you then can remove most of ATI stuff ...

I can also run my Winfast USB TV tuner II at the SAME time! PERRRFict picture and NO slow down! according to my Info screen 34/43 % CPU time with BOTH!
23/34% just HDTV.....Lovve IT! the remote works too!





Cheers Dennis

I have an HDTV Wonder and a PVR-250 installed in HP Pavillion 2.53 GHz with Windows XP Home. I have only the onboard graphics that came with the machine (Intel Extreme Graphics 64MB).

Presently, the HDTV card records fine in this machine, but I have no live display for anything but 480 HDTV channels. 720 and 1080 record ok, even though the screen is blank during the process. (The post capture files do display later at higher resolutions on this machine.) Need recommendations for inexpensive graphics card to add to the HP to allow 720/1080 display and any techniques I might try to get the machine to display 720/1080 with only the existing onboard graphics.

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I know, old post, but I used this as a map for set-up with MCE-2005 with roll-up 2.

Worked like a charm, first time. I installed on Gateway with dual 2.80GHz and am using onboard graphics (no add-on graphics card) and with no other tuner card.

Is there way to access both analog and digital on the ATI Wonder tuner with MCE?

Is there any way using MCE to see if transmission is 480 or 720 or 1080? Guide shows "HD" beside channel in guide listing detail, but there is no indication in guide detail or on screen when changing channels. I have to go to Titan detail listing to see this now.

As I don't have ATI MMC using this setup, I convert dvr-ms to MPEG2 720x480 with DVRMSToolbox (Fast and no sync problems so far).

I have a very similar setup, 8400, 2g RAM, HDTV Wonder, Sapphire 550 Pro, and MCE 2005. Everything works except no sound when on the DTV channels. When recording it doesn't work and I've tried the hack to change the hardware settings. Still nothing. I wonder if it is a driver problem for the Audigy, for the HDTV or what. Yes, I have all 5 of the "devices" listed in the device manager. I really am at a loss as to what to try next (well, I'm going to clean everything out and try reinstalling, but I'm not all that hopeful).

Any advise would be appreciated.

Bob.
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Edited - in case anyone else has similar problems. I tried reinstalling and everything that I could think of. I was using the ATI DVD decoder. I ended up downloading the nvidia one and it worked immediately. So, there is something wrong with the cyberlink dvd decoder and my setup.

Just did a fresh install of MCE and installed an HDTV Wonder by itself without and analog tuner using the kram drivers. I followed the guide from these forums. Everything appeared to go fine. But when I go to MY TV, all I get is blue background instead of a TV siganl/show. Any help?

I have only the ATI card with MCE, no add-on video card.

I had to install:

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/n...i=&p_topview=1

and AC3Filter to get things to work.

My decoders.txt file is:

NVIDIA video Decoder
AC3Filter

Having just installed my HDTV Wonder, I find that the signal strength is too weak for HDTV, but analog cable works OK. However, I can't get sound with the ATI software (my default Windows sound device is the onboard Realtek SPDIF), and I get nothing at all with MCE (neither sound nor picture--MCE says there is no signal, even though the ATI software finds it just fine).

Any suggestions? How does the analog tuner output sound, seeing as there is no analog out on the back of the HDTV Wonder card?

Thanks, RD

I am using Realtek SPDIF for primary audio playback; it works fine with Windows and MCE (the Windows sounds are coming through fine), but is there any way I can route the sound from the HDTV Wonder analog tuner through it?

Thanks, RD

After removing and reinstalling the ATI software (the latest versions from the ATI site), I now get sound from both the analog and digital tuners. However, MCE now reports that there are no compatible analog tuners; previously, with the decoder downloaded from Windows Update, it had found the tuner , but refused to acknowledge any signal.

I take it that the latest ATI drivers and decoder software are incompatible with MCE?

rdunnill,

I had a similar problem. I reinstalled the kram drivers, then ran windows update and installed the ATI drivers from their, rebooted and the ATI is working for me.

Lance

Just be be sure, so this card will work for both OTA HDTV and analog cable tv channels in MCE 2005?

^^^Thanks! That cleared a lot of my confusion up!

Whenever I try and install my HDTV WONDER the computer will reboot itself, as if it encountered a hardware error during startup. It generally will get far enough along to get to the log in screen or barely let me log in, then its all over again. I have tried most of the procedures out there, but basically the card causes my computer to get into a state where it endlessly keeps rebooting itself over and over and over... I'm running a Sony R-Series MCE2k with XP SP2.

Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks.

I installed the HDTV wonder this weekend, for the most part it works ok, not with MCE 2005 but that is because of not having an Analog tuner card hooked up apparently from what I have read on here from you knowledgable folks.

I do have issues with the audio many times where it's not quite in sync with the video, especially yesterday during the football games on FOX and CBS.

The interesting thing is I haven't been having that problem at night on CBS or FOX.

Is that a signal issue? I am using the non amplified antenna that came with the card.

Any suggestions or ideas?