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post #211 of 366
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Yes, it really leaves the impression that they're writing this show by the seat of their pants. Naively, no doubt, I had hoped that there was a bit more cohesiveness and strength in the storylines, but apparently not. To be honest, this really gives me pause to reassess the value of any of the "clues" or sub-plots in this show. The whole subject of Walt's unusual abilities and his value to the Others is now a moot point..? It's a bit disappointing...

I suspect they'll continue to expand on Walt's abilities and why they wanted him next season; they won't just let that whole plotline die. However, as I said above, they had to get Walt off the show somehow because the boy has a bad habit of continuing to grow! (Maybe they should have cast Gary Coleman instead.)

Everything I've seen indicates to me that they are not just "winging" it from "the seat of their pants". We've seen several small things in S-1 that popped back up with significance in S-2. This ain't '24', which they admittedly write on the fly, or, Heaven forbid, 'The X-Files'. It's far more well thought out than that. I've got faith in the writers and producers; everyone should. They haven't let us down so far.
post #212 of 366
Well, I do hope they continue with Walt's storyline as I will be disappointed if it's left to fade away as it would seem to be a major part of the overall story.
post #213 of 366
The most recent Podcast made during Comic-Con in San Diego had some interesting prospects mentioned:

The possibility of an underwater hatch.

Desmond definitely is returning next season.
post #214 of 366
Check out the new DHARMA video. It explains everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc
post #215 of 366
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Originally Posted by ftboomer View Post

Check out the new DHARMA video. It explains everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

wow. That was more explanation than we got in all of season 2.

From what I understand, the producers had a big hand in what went on with this online "lost experience" game that produced this, right? Are we to assume this is canon and will be explored on the show at some point?

(all this is assuming the clip isn't a fake, but from what I can tell it really did come from the scattered clips that had to be gathered as part of the Lost game.)
post #216 of 366
Evangeline Lilly on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night: She will "hook up" with either Jack or Sawyer in season 3.
post #217 of 366
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Evangeline Lilly on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night: She will "hook up" with either Jack or Sawyer in season 3.

I don't think they could drag out another Season of sexual tension between them...that should be pretty obvious to everyone now
post #218 of 366
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Originally Posted by clevername View Post

wow. That was more explanation than we got in all of season 2.

From what I understand, the producers had a big hand in what went on with this online "lost experience" game that produced this, right? Are we to assume this is canon and will be explored on the show at some point?

(all this is assuming the clip isn't a fake, but from what I can tell it really did come from the scattered clips that had to be gathered as part of the Lost game.)

I was waiting until just before the new season started to catch up on all the summer off the air stuff to be put together. Probably saved my sanity in the process. Now that I have seen this video, I'm guessing the Lindelhof and Cuse wanted to get some backstory out there for those nuts who really wanted to know what the numbers were and what DHARMA is about. I imagine this video is going to be played during an episode sometime early in the season.
post #219 of 366
Does anyone want a new spoiler topic for this season? Or is this one fine?
post #220 of 366
This thread is fine, but I want some spoilers!!!!

post #221 of 366
I've read some interesting things from the other web sites. There is an underwater hatch that Jack is in. They use it for dolphin and shark testing. There is also a bear cage that bears have to learn how to get food by doing certain things.

The biggest spoiler that I've read is that there is a town on the island that the others live in that looks normal with houses and other buildings.

I've also seen some pictures that make it look like Lock will go def and will have to write what he wants to say on paper. Desmond will be naked and have to wear one of Hurleys big shirts that makes him looks like he is wearing a dress. There will be a flashback where Lock meets Boon as a young boy on a farm. Young Boon wears a Geranmo t shirt which is what one of the records in the hatch is.

This is all that I can think of that are spoilers. Please add more and discuss.
post #222 of 366
For a few weeks now, AICN.com has had a list of all the "flashbacks" for the 2nd half of LOST Season 3 posted. While any inside info on the net should be taken with a grain (or pound) of salt, the AICN list has been accurate up until now. So my guess is the following spoiler info is true.

My main interest in this has to do with the fact that some have complained that the "answers" to the various LOST mysteries were getting put on the backburner during S3, replaced by more "character" based stuff. I myself have enjoyed S3 a lot, and always knew that answers would come to the patient. Well, with what's gone down in the last couple of episodes, I think some answers (or at least partial answers) are coming down the pike before the end of S3. At this rate, the recently hypothesized 5-season run of LOST could work without running out of gas before the end.

Here's the batting order for LOST flashbacks thru the season finale.


3.16 Juliet Burke (the 4/11/07 episode)--Nice clues to the Others and their reasons for being there--and Juliet's current deception revealed in flashback form was nice. "See you in a week". Hmm..

3.17 Desmond Hume-always love the Desmond flashbacks.

3.18 Jin & Sun Kwon-more screentime for the beautiful Sun is always good.

3.19 Jack Shephard-interested to see what this one deals with. More with the ex-wife, maybe?

The last 3 are, to me, the most compelling...

3.20 Karen & Gerald DeGroot

Yes, folks. Flashbacks centered on the DeGroots, the founders of the DHARMA INITIATIVE. This could be the biggest "answers" episode of the season. Or the one to piss us all off the most!

3.21 Charlie Pace

Seems that when a character is gonna get killed off, the episode's flashbacks usually center around that doomed character. Psychic Desmond says Charlie is doomed. Could this be the one? Would be one hell of a way to lead up to the S3 finale that features....

3.22-23 Benjamin Linus

If the finale centers around Ben flashbacks, I'd be willing to bet some elements of the big LOST mysteries (at least the ones pertaining to the Others) will get some light shed on them in the S3 finale. And we'll get a pisser of a cliffhanger, too. Abrams, Lindeloff, Cuse and Co. know that this one better tackle at least some revealing info while baiting us for S4. Doubt they disappoint.

After this, it might be a big wait until Jan '08. But I can wait if it means S4 is "non-stop".
post #223 of 366
So nice to see some actual posts on this thread! Thanks!
post #224 of 366
i think the cliffhanger will be a shocker too shock everyone, i think someone who is well trusted is a other or atleast not who they say they are, and maybe the first signs of them actually getting off the island, kinda like desmonds g/f who u thought found him at the season finale last year, but never really heard much after that. I also dont think Charlie will be the only death of a lostie this year
post #225 of 366
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3.19 Jack Shephard-interested to see what this one deals with. More with the ex-wife, maybe?

Doubtful Julie Bowen will make another appearance on LOST this season. She was preggers and apparently her water broke on the set of 'Boston Legal' last week. Assuming they've already filmed LOST 3.19, Julie would have been very noticeably pregnant during that period - probably not conducive to her part-time role as Jack's non-pregnant wife. Although I'm sure she would have enjoyed an all-expenses paid trip to Hawaii for a few days.
post #226 of 366
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Doubtful Julie Bowen will make another appearance on LOST this season. She was preggers and apparently her water broke on the set of 'Boston Legal' last week. Assuming they've already filmed LOST 3.19, Julie would have been very noticeably pregnant during that period - probably not conducive to her part-time role as Jack's non-pregnant wife. Although I'm sure she would have enjoyed an all-expenses paid trip to Hawaii for a few days.


Did not know that about Ms Bowen. So, yeah...she may not be part of the next Jack-centric episode.

OTOH, last night's episode (Juliet flashbacks) got me thinking about what you mention about having 3.19 in the can already. The scenes of the flashback to the beginning of S3 ("Others-ville" and their view of the 815 crash) went on longer with Juliet and Ben's conversation. This could have been filmed recently and CG'ed into the existing footage (a la Nikki and Paulo flashbacks). Or it was all filmed at the same time and we only saw the rest of that scene (or is there more for the future?) this week?

Could be that Julie Bowen and other actors playing "flashback" parts could have scenes in the can already. Would support the theory that the creators do have this whole story planned out after all. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
post #227 of 366
Just as soon as I find this thread to post my "spoiler", it get changed!!!!

Posted today @ AICN.com:

LOST To Drop The Flashbacks!!!! For One Episode!!



A highly-placed insider has just set my hinder straight on the batting order for the final episodes of Lost this season.

The bad news? As reported by TV Guide's Michael Ausiello, the season will indeed not end with a Benjamin Linus flashback two-parter.

The good news? We'll be getting Ben's flashbacks even sooner! He'll be the focus of 3.20, the episode previously believed to be DeGroot-centric. (If you're thinking Dharma masterminds Karen and Gerald DeGroot will still turn up in that episode, I'd guess you're thinking right.)

The shocking news? After years of privately and publicly nagging the producers of Lost to cut back on the flashbacks, I can report that 3.19 is slated to be the first-ever flashback-free episode in the series' history.

The absent flashbacks for that episode, says my source, won't even be missed.

The episode, he or she adds, focuses on one of season one's mysteries' - if that's the right word.

What I am assured is the true flashback order:
3.17 Desmond Hume
3.18 Jin & Sun Kwon
3.19 no flashbacks!
3.20 Benjamin Linus
3.21 Charlie Pace
3.22-23 Jack Shephard
post #228 of 366
looks like FB is back in LOL although another spoiler tracker still has it as no fb

UPDATE!! LOST NOT
To Drop The Flashbacks!!
I am - Hercules!!

UPDATE!! Another reputable source told us late last night that 3.19 WILL contain flashbacks, and they'll be Locke flashbacks. So I called my original source (the one who said no flashbacks for 3.19), and that source said my latter source was right. The original source got confused because all of Locke's flashbacks are very RECENT flashbacks. All apparently take place on Dharma Island (or thereabouts) subsequent to Ben reintroducing Locke to his daddy (the last time we all saw Locke). So the real, true and now double-confirmed flashback order is:

3.17 Desmond Hume
3.18 Jin & Sun Kwon
3.19 John Locke
3.20 Benjamin Linus
3.21 Charlie Pace
3.22-23 Jack Shephard

Apologies for the mix-up!!

END OF UPDATE!!
post #229 of 366
Just couldn't resist.

Came across this today @ AINC.com:



A Bit Of Scoopage On
LOST's Season Finale!!



The Lost season finale is out there. Someone billing himself as lostfan108 just sent us what appears to be a rundown of the whole shebang, this week's episode and next's. If it's fakery, it's one of the best forgeries I've ever seen in my long tenure here at Ain't It Cool News. I was thinking it might even be an elaborate foiler manufactured by the Lost writers, but candidly it's too good to waste on fooling us. Many details on this week's episode - heretofore unrevealed details we'll be able to confirm on Wednesday - are included, adding to the missive's air of legitimacy. If it's legitimate, as I believe it to be, the season finale contains by far the biggest reveal of any season finale yet.

ABC says of the finale:

"Through the Looking Glass" - Jack and the castaways begin their efforts to make contact with Naomi's rescue ship, on the season finale of "Lost.

"Lost" stars Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Ben, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet, Dominic Monaghan as Charlie and Terry O'Quinn as Locke.

Guest starring are M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly/Tom, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Blake Bashoff as Karl, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail, Ariston Greene as Jason, Sonya Walger as Penny, Mira Furlan as Rousseau, Brian Goodman as Pryce, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Sam Anderson as Bernard, Lana Parilla as Greta, Tracy Middendorf as Bonnie, James Lesure as Dr. Hamill, Nigel Gibbs as funeral director, Loreni Delgado as pharmacist, Larry Clarke as customer and Kate Connor as doctor.

"Through the Looking Glass" was written by Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof and directed by Jack Bender.


What ABC is not telling us:

* We do not get a lot more information this season about Richard Alpert and the island's other natives.

* We do not get a lot more information this season on the Dharma Initiative or the Hanso Foundation.

* We do not learn a lot more this season about Jacob.

* We don't learn more about the four-toed statue.

* Christian Shepherd is not discovered alive.

* Libby does not appear.

* We will learn something huge about Kate.

* We get a major clue related to the other Oceanic 815 that boasted no survivors.

* We'll be meeting new characters, not all of them in flashbacks.

* Rousseau's original Frenchy broadcast from the pilot plays a role this week.

* There is much death in the finale.

* Yet another original cast member goes the way of Boone and Shannon.

* A long-absent regular returns. And that regular is not listed among ABC's cast list.

* We will see Terry O'Quinn at least one more time before the season ends.

* We see a new side of Hurley.

* Desmond does not sacrifice himself to save Charlie.

* There's a big reveal involving Naomi and Penelope.

* Between now and 2008, fans may scratch holes in their heads wondering how this show is going to continue next season.

* The huge huge huge HUGE season-ending reveal resides in Jack's very dark flashbacks, so watch them very carefully.



Chew on that, spoiler fans. The next 2 weeks should prove intriguing.

And just as others we're complaining about another Jack-centric episode.....
post #230 of 366
Well. If I ever saw a document begging for a parody response, its this one.

A Bit Of Scoopage On
LOST's Season Finale!!


What ABC is not telling us:

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* We do not get a lot more information this season about Richard Alpert and the island's other natives.

However, much is revealed about his brother Herb, and The Tijuana Brass

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* We do not get a lot more information this season on the Dharma Initiative or the Hanso Foundation.

However, two other completely mythical organizations will be introduced so that the same types of questions concerning Dharma and Hanso can be raised, and we still won't have to answer them.

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* We do not learn a lot more this season about Jacob.

Because we've already learned so much about Jacob through the incessant speculation of our audience.

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* We don't learn more about the four-toed statue.

...until season five. However, for the benefit of our loyal fans, we will be introducing a new five-toed staute in season four to encourage lengthy discussions about the incongruous toe count between the two.

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* Christian Shepherd is not discovered alive.

This will be part of a special online puzzle for our fans, to see how large a percentage can figure out it means that Christian Shepherd is DEAD.

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* Libby does not appear

after having been found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

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* We will learn something huge about Kate.

If you are fortunate enough to have Showtime, keep your eye out for the new season of The L word.

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* We get a major clue related to the other Oceanic 815 that boasted no survivors.

Think time-travel, inter-dimensional space, wormhole, cloning and whatever other silly nonsense you can dream up to explain why this series makes no sense.

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* We'll be meeting new characters, not all of them in flashbacks.

IOW, more of Desmond's flash-forwards.

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* Rousseau's original Frenchy broadcast from the pilot plays a role this week

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(Crackle static) Tish, you know I can't control myself when you speak French (Crackle static)

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* There is much death in the finale.

Everyone on the Lost set are much too lazy to learn proper grammar, so they hired the Geico cavemen.

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* Yet another original cast member goes the way of Boone and Shannon.

(see Something huge about Kate above)

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* A long-absent regular returns. And that regular is not listed among ABC's cast list.

Vincent returns. And he's pissed there's no Dharma kibble left.

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* We will see Terry O'Quinn at least one more time before the season ends.

He will appear as Jacob again, but this time, with the lights on.

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* We see a new side of Hurley.

Pass. Too easy. We'll let someone else take a crack at this one.

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* Desmond does not sacrifice himself to save Charlie.

a/k/a Claire buys the farm.

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* There's a big reveal involving Naomi and Penelope.

(see Something huge about Kate above)

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* Between now and 2008, fans may scratch holes in their heads wondering how this show is going to continue next season.

Between now and 2008, fans may scratch holes in their heads wondering WHY this show is going to continue for the next three seasons.

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post #231 of 366
I have a real problem with this spoiler tease stuff they keep doing over there.

If you have spoilers, post them. Quit making big headlines saying you do only to vaguely and cryptically reference spoilers you yourself have seen without actually spilling the beans.

Most of us are big boys. We can decide if we want to read the spoilers or not. If you're so concerned that people will take the spoiler info and go tell it to people who don't want to hear it, don't tell us you know anything to begin with.
post #232 of 366
Supposedly, the season ends with a big mega-cliffhanger about Jack that turns the whole show upside down. A real mindfrak that will blow our minds. Personally, I don't want to know what that is, so I hope if anybody finds out, they put in spoiler tags, even in this thread. They didn't post that over at AICN, even though they know what it is.
post #233 of 366
Evangeline Lilly was on one of the late night talk shows last week and she said when she read the script for the final episode of the season the hair stood up on the back of her arms.
post #234 of 366
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Supposedly, the season ends with a big mega-cliffhanger about Jack that turns the whole show upside down. A real mindfrak that will blow our minds. Personally, I don't want to know what that is, so I hope if anybody finds out, they put in spoiler tags, even in this thread. They didn't post that over at AICN, even though they know what it is.

Here is the big mind frak that everyone is talking about, read it at your own risk.

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In Jack's flashback we see that he is tormented, he is doing drugs, he watches his ex-wife have a baby with another man, we see him stealing drugs, he is spiraling out of control. He then goes to see someone and we discover it is KATE. For the first time we realize we are now watching not a flash back but a flash forward. Jack and Kate where rescued. They are back home. Jack keeps screaming at Kate that they need to go back to the island. Kate says no and leaves. Jack freaks out and keeps screaming they have to go back.
post #235 of 366
Nope, ain't going to do it. Thanks for putting it in spoiler tags, though. Now, let's please not get into a discussion about this or I'll have to avoid this thread for the duration. Little, minor spoilers I don't mind, and kinda' enjoy, but not something that's reputedly this big.
post #236 of 366
I'm with you, Archi.

I'm sitting here, staring at that big block of white space and IMMENSELY tempted.

But, if this is as good as reported (and put goosebumps on Evangeline's arms - something I bet the hobbit can't do), it's worth the wait.
post #237 of 366
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But, if this is as good as reported (and put goosebumps on Evangeline's arms - something I bet the hobbit can't do), it's worth the wait.

I dunno, Hobbits have those really big furry feet, and you know what they say....
post #238 of 366
What are you saying, he tickles her with his big hairy feet?
post #239 of 366
I just read the Big Spoiler. I can't help it. I'm just curious like that. I just figured I would give my impression of it, without revealing any of it. If true, it really is a huge deal that should be a really cool reveal at the end of the episode and will likely be worse than the "What's in the Hatch" of the first season cliffhanger as far as being a frustrating wait. If you haven't read the spoiler yet, and can manage to resist doing so for the next two weeks, congrats to you. The payoff should be well worth it.

I just wanted to say that it really is as big a spoiler as has been said before. So read at your own risk.
post #240 of 366
I try to avoid spoilers like the plague, but we're all going to know this within the next week anyway, and then this show disappears for god knows how long, so WTF...

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Here is the big mind frak that everyone is talking about, read it at your own risk.

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(I deleted the spoiler so it won't show up in someone's e-mail inadvertently).

Okay, now that I've read it, assuming its actually true (and I have my some doubts about certain aspects of it), I think there is a very good chance that by 2010, this series will unfortunately be remembered as a monument of epic proportions to the self-indulgent stupidity of Hollywood and will
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supplant Bobby Ewing's shower dream of the past year in 'Dallas'
as the most inane plot twist in television history,
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perhaps something like Lost Island is reality and the REST of the planet is purgatory, or that Jack is the one that's nuts and Hurley is his seriously overweight therapist. (complete idle speculation so it doesn't really count as a spoiler anyway)

In any case, I got a bad feeling that even though I'll 'pay the check' of watching it through, I'll probably be cancelling my credit card before this charge hits the account!

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