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post #31 of 3765
4/8/05 at 10:59am
now its the end of next week
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post #32 of 3765
4/8/05 at 11:07am
i just want to ad, this cant be from delivery or tv authority, the box was perfect it pretty much has to be from jvc, i'll just get it a week later than i thought, except i will miss another day of work
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post #33 of 3765
4/8/05 at 11:11am
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That stinks swenjj sorry to hear, I know you have been one of the most excited ones here (at least the most vocal about your excitement)

I plan on pulling mine out of the box tonight (Paints done!) woohoo!

Now I am scared to look inside, I hope I won't suffer the same fate as you.

Good luck on your next one!

ocxplant
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post #34 of 3765
4/8/05 at 11:34am
If indeed the set was sent out by JVC in that bad of shape, that doesn't say much for their quality control... on top of the recall and numerous issues for the previous model. Not trying to be a downer here. I had high hopes for the upcoming JVCs; I was interested in the 720p, though I am giving much more serious consideration to the upcoming 1080p. But quality is a big concern to me with JVCs, and stories like this don't give me the warm fuzzies. Makes waiting til fall for the 1080p's seem even less worthwhile.
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post #35 of 3765
4/8/05 at 11:44am
Bummer, Swenjj. Don't cry over the TV, they'll say you caused water damage.

I'll be a very unhappy puppy if it happens to me, too. You might want to take pictures of the damage and record the serial #.

Maybe my waiting another few days will not be such a bad thing. It beats quick and broken. Of course, waiting and still broken wouldn't be good either. I hope ocxplant has better luck- and a digital camera to post pics.
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post #36 of 3765
4/8/05 at 12:23pm
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Originally posted by bhchan
what's going to happen to the 575?

It's going to be returned. I've had 3 light engine replacements and still have color fringing. So JVC offered to let me exchange it for another model. I asked that they wait for the 786 and they said sure
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post #37 of 3765
4/8/05 at 12:39pm
Good idea about the pics.
Can you take some and post them here?
Why do you think it was JVC's fault?? It's a long way from the Far East and just because the box didn't show any real signs of damage it still was something that happened on transit.

http://www.drandall.com.au/shipping_...r_accident.htm
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post #38 of 3765
4/8/05 at 1:10pm
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Originally posted by videobruce
It's a long way from the Far East....


I thought these JVC sets were manufactured "south of the border" (Mexico). Am I wrong?

In any case, sorry to hear about the damaged set, swenjj. I hope TVA gets everything squared away for you ASAP.

Be skiing ya,

DSG
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post #39 of 3765
4/8/05 at 3:14pm
tva has been good about telling me whats happening, i am getting a pickup and new tv on wednesday of next week, only one day off of my original three day window for delivery, this sukks but it does happen, just unfortunatly it happened to me

i can take some pics later, but its hard to see, the screen is just sort of warped in, it isnt cracked but it is like it came off its holder and was pushed in, i'll post some pics tonight if i can tell it on the pic
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post #40 of 3765
4/8/05 at 3:39pm
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/swenjj/album?.dir=/2517

6 pics of it, it is sort of hard to see but you can see the warped screen on a couple pics, that is on by the way, no light at all now, i didnt even hear the fan this time, not good, its hard to see but the top bezel is sort of pulled out or something, and bent up


question, that frame part is called the bezel right? i dont want to sound too stupid here
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post #41 of 3765
4/8/05 at 4:05pm
Oddly enough, you may actually get your second TV before I get delivery of my first.
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post #42 of 3765
4/8/05 at 4:53pm
Whoever gets a working or up and running unit, please post a review soon. So far, this official owners thread is severely lacking in owners and information. I would suggest starting a entirely new thread, as this one does not have one review or even quick assessment of the new units capabilities. In fact, there is not even a picture of working unit in action.
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post #43 of 3765
4/8/05 at 4:54pm
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Originally posted by swenjj
i just want to ad, this cant be from delivery or tv authority, the box was perfect it pretty much has to be from jvc, i'll just get it a week later than i thought, except i will miss another day of work


Why would you assume that? Highly unlikely JVC had anything to do with the damage, they do at least a rudimentary inspection before shipping. I f it were an internal, electronic problem, maybe. But outside highly visible damage? Very doubtful. Almost guaranteed it was damaged in transit somewhere. Box being perfect means nothing. Also very unlikely TVA could cause the damage. These small internet etailers rarely touch what they sell. They simply order from the manufacturer or a wholesaler and have the product drop-shipped.
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post #44 of 3765
4/8/05 at 5:35pm
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Originally posted by sycore
Whoever gets a working or up and running unit, please post a review soon. So far, this official owners thread is severely lacking in owners and information. I would suggest starting a entirely new thread, as this one does not have one review or even quick assessment of the new units capabilities. In fact, there is not even a picture of working unit in action.

HEAR HEAR!!!

You guys are killing me!
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post #45 of 3765
4/8/05 at 5:40pm
So what happened to kfeltes? We got a one liner tease yesterday and here we are about 2200 views 40+ replies and not a single review outside the DOA Tragedy.

kfeltes - We need your assessment? Knock Knock!!!

What'd they do ship one per day? The first eager poster ends up with a DOA and pretty bad damage - not a good sign for JVC to start out of the gate with a DUD and Crash!

Oh Well one can hope for some good news as we've been reading about future models since early January and pretty much without Squat new product the past 3 months - I think we're all hankering for something new to talk about and hope for a Q006 Killer that may match our wallet a little better. We can hope.
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post #46 of 3765
4/8/05 at 6:47pm
Mine arrives at BWI airport Monday. It's about an hour or so drive to get there. No rain forecast. If they won't set up a Monday or Tuesday delivery, I might go pick it up there. I'm sure they'd love that. I've already arranged for my neighbor to help me hoof it in the house. He helped me carry the 36" tube upstairs to make way for the new. He seemed amiable to helping again. Almost eager. He's a nice chap. He and his wife will watch our house & cats while we travel for part of May. Almost eager.... Hmmmmm......
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post #47 of 3765
4/8/05 at 6:54pm
the delivery company called, they said something about shipping it on a cargo plane because the rush delivery, said it may have fell over or something

not a huge deal i guess as long as i get one pretty soon, mostly it sukks having to take another day off of work, but it will be setup by wednesday night for smallville in HD
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post #48 of 3765
4/9/05 at 8:01am
does anyone actually have one yet? nobody seems to have watched one yet or posted anything about it, i had mine but it doesnt show a picture so i cant post a review
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post #49 of 3765
4/9/05 at 8:19am
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OK all...got it up and running so it's time for a little review.......

First off, this TV is absolutely stunning in my living room! Now, I have only had about an hour or two of uninterrupted veiwing/tweaking/playing time because of my work schedule and have not had time to properly calibrate it with AVIA yet, but here is what I can tell you so far:

PRO's-

1) design of the cabinet itself is to me awesome looking (almost ALL screen with thin bezel and base)

2) warm up time seems to be shorter then stated in the manual (all of about 15-20 seconds for nice bright picture)

3) Can lower or completely turn OFF the blue power light at the bottom (great for dark room DVD watching!)

4) Side bars are BLACK not gray if you so choose to watch SD in normal mode

5) why watch it in normal mode...the stretch modes are done VERY well and you can barely tell that its stretched at all!

6) SD looks very decent if you are back enough from the TV anyway (I would not recommend sitting too close as you will see a sort of grainy gelatin type of pixelation [for lack of a better description] on SD and low quality broadcasts

7) When watching a DVD with the theater pro mode on it looks absolutely wonderful as it tones down the artificial brightness and vibrantness. If you have the room dark on this mode with a DVD playing I swear it looks the closest to FILM that I have ever seen on a consumer grade set. And mind you this is BEFORE calibration!

8) The dynamic gamma does a great job producing dark blacks from what I have seen so far.

Now some CONs I have noticed -

1) When watching SD broadcasts (from my cable at least) there is some of the grainy gelatin looking pixelation [if someone has a better term for this let me know lol] as the scenes pan around.

2) The fan noise is noticable if you have the sound very low or off, not a biggie for me but if you have it set-up in a small room it may be an issue for you.

3) Other than the theater mode, it is a bright set...I happen to like this quality but I have read some complain that this is a negative for them so I'll note it here.

That's about all I can think of at the moment and as I am stuck at work all day again today I can't play with it more until tonight. If you guys have any questions about things I didn't mention post them here and I'll answer the best I can with the limited experience I have with the set so far.

Also, I have to thank everyone here for all the information about various sets and technologies out there so that I could make such an informed purchase! I have absolutely no buyers remorse and am very happy with my decision to purchase this set over a DLP or other type. On a side note the WAF for me was extremely high (YMMV). My wife (who by the way cares nothing about electronics except the price) said WOW when she saw me turn it on for the first time, and actually said good job honey it looks perfect I can even see the details now (She wears glasses).

Anyway, for those who have already ordered their's don't worry about your purchase...I believe you WILL BE HAPPY!

P.S. I did take some pics, but had no time to post them, hopefully I will do it tonight so you all can have a look.

Take care all,

ocxplant
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post #50 of 3765
4/9/05 at 8:33am
about how far away is your viewing distance? mine will be about ten feet, i wonder if i will have to make some room to extend that some,and will you be trying a gaming system on it at all? did you get to watch any HD shows? and have you owned other hd tvs if so how does this compare to them?
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post #51 of 3765
4/9/05 at 8:42am
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First off before replies I have the 61" set so we are on the same page:


"about how far away is your viewing distance?"

My sitting area is about 15 feet (edited due to over-estimation)


"and will you be trying a gaming system on it at all?"

I will eventually but not in the near enough future to post anything about it


"did you get to watch any HD shows?"

Yes, I watched a little bit of discoveryHD and KCETHD, and it looks very good, but still exhibited the pixelation a bit when you get right up to the screen..which to me is not an issue since I don't plan on watching the set from 2 feet away. This does bring up a point about gaming on it though if you like to game right up to the set. Bear in mind though that I am using component cable from my HD cable box not DVI/HDMI yet so this may improve. Also, it is not calibrated yet so this pixelation up close should get even better.


"and have you owned other hd tvs if so how does this compare to them?"

Yes, the set this is replacing was about a 3 year old Toshiba 40" widescreen, model 40H80. I know this is not the greatest set ever made, but until I saw this one I thought it looked damn good in HD.


Hope that helps some

ocxplant
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post #52 of 3765
4/9/05 at 9:31am
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Originally posted by ocxplant

1) When watching SD broadcasts (from my cable at least) there is some of the grainy gelatin looking pixelation [if someone has a better term for this let me know lol] as the scenes pan around.

Is this the same "swirly" effect that was reported on the last model? Or do you mean SSE? Have you tried turning off the noise reduction and other digital processing? Those kinds of processing often cause pixelation and other artifacts.
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post #53 of 3765
4/9/05 at 9:43am
Thread Starter 
I would say it is the 'swirly' effect not SSE. But again this is only if I am very close to the screen (Too close to be able to watch anything on it).

I have not had a chance to mess with the digital noise correction etc. yet but I will tonight.

ocxplant
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post #54 of 3765
4/9/05 at 11:31am
25' viewing distance!!!

Looks like the majority of us will need a second opinion on the image quality.

How's about what it looks like from 10' (which is 2X the diagonal)?
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post #55 of 3765
4/9/05 at 11:54am
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Hey Tom

I just called home and had my wife get out the tape measure..lol..you got me thinkin'

Anyway, I actually have about a 15' viewing distance (Guess I over-estimated the size of the room).

So, all of my comments are based on a viewing distance of 15' sorry

ocxplant
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post #56 of 3765
4/9/05 at 1:32pm
Something tell me that when you are done measuring, you will find that the distance from your eyeballs to the screen is more like 13 or 14 feet.

By the way, OCX, can't you take a little vacation time from work to satisfy our curiosity. Remember, all work and no play make OCX late to report.

Seriously, I hope your report continues to be good because this set holds out lots of promise.
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post #57 of 3765
4/9/05 at 4:46pm
One more reason why more companies need to sponsor a "Take your TV to work" day.
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post #58 of 3765
4/9/05 at 4:47pm
ocxplant- CA, 'Color Abberation' is it there? Look at white text, or any text for that matter. Do you see a green pixel on one side and a purple pixel outline on the other side of each letter?

As for the 'swirling' effect, do me a favor and turn OFF Natural Cinema just to see if that does anything. And with the old sets, Gamma OFF always produced the best calibrated picture.
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post #59 of 3765
4/9/05 at 7:06pm
Hows the overscan on these sets? I have a 52Z575 and for the most part the 5% overscan doesnt bother me. But when i use full mode to fill the screen with 16:9 material, i know exactly what im missing and that total 10% is just too much.
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post #60 of 3765
4/9/05 at 7:34pm
Mine is supposed to be delivered tomorrow (Sunday) from HH Gregg. I will try to post some quick thoughts then. I tested it with Matrix II in store and was impressed. I am moving to this set from a Sony HS20 (which I now have to sell) and the subjective black level looked much better. I didnt know what many of the features did, so I just went in and turned off all processing and put the set on theater mode on the floor. I was very impressed sitting about 8 -10 feet away - no dancing pixels in faces at all - I see this all the time in any lcd. Truly, it looked like a DLP in terms of smoothness but without rainbows which I have seen on every DLP i have viewed.

I am really hoping that the PC input allows me to hook up an HTPC. I am going to be dissapointed if I cannot post process dvds with an HTPC and send it to this tv....
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