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post #661 of 7246
This may have already been answered...I just couldn't find it. Does anyone know why Comcast doesn't carry the local UPN in HD? I have the 6412 box and would really like to time shift the show in HD. Analog on Comcast really sux (at least it does on the box). I can watch the HD version using my built ATSC tuner on the TV but when I'm away from home, I don't have an HD record capability for UPN.

Does anyone else have any solutions? I looked into getting a D-VHS tape and/or external hard drive recorder but that seems to be a non-starter right now.

Let me know
thx
post #662 of 7246
Found the answer to the program dropping out on 811 Dish receiver. It's the idiot operator!

Actually, I wasn't aware I need to turn the receiver off every day or so to allow it to upload the programming info.

Now I know.

Also, I was told by someone that I, too, needed an "HDTV" antenna. Being the super cheapy that I am, I used a regular OTA antenna I used 8 years ago when I was too cheap buy cable. I don't even know why I have it after 3 moves and being on satellite for 6 years. Hooked it up using the diplexers and low and behold I have great HDTV on the 4 channels I want.

The silver sensor "HDTV" antenna is going back to sears.
post #663 of 7246
"Also, I was told by someone that I, too, needed an "HDTV" antenna"

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN HDTV ANTENNA!!!!!!!!!!

An antenna is an antenna is an antenna. If it's for TV is for HDTV too!!!
post #664 of 7246
Antenna update:

I was having big time problems getting channel 11, 21, 33 and even 5. I kept rotating the antenna trying to get a better signal, but it was no use. I was using a Terk 38 antenna ($180) mounted to my chimney with no signal booster. I didn't know what the hell was going on since I live in Grapevine and I am only 23 miles from the broadcast tower.

Well I took the Terk 38 back to Fry's. Picked up a Channel Master 3017 for $30 ($150 cheaper than the 38 and a lot smaller). Ordered a Channel Master 7777 signal booster/amplifier/what ever the proper name for it is (which arrived today). I set up everything this evening.

HOLLY CRAP.......I am getting all my digital channels in perfectly.......well so far anyway........and I can not get channel 27-1. Why can I get all the other channels and not 27-1? Anyone know?


Anyway, a big thank you to all in this forum. As mentioned before, I don't think I would have been able to solve this problem without you guys. For those with signal problems, order the 7777. I got mine from Solid Signal and got it in two days (with ground shipping).

Some notes about the Channel Master antennas:
-The antennas don't come with a mounting pole or any brackets for mounting on the chimney, attic, or side of your house.
-The chimney mounting kit comes with two braces even though the box only shows one in the picture (glad I opened it in the store).

Thanks again, and if someone can explain why I am not getting channel 27 in digital that would be great......
post #665 of 7246
27-1 is low power. It's difficult without a tall mount. Don't worry it's 4x3 SD only. You're not missing much.
post #666 of 7246
The FCC deadline for round one of the post-transition channel selections for local broadcasters has just finished. For those who are interested, here are the channel elections for Dallas/Fort Worth area broadcasters:

KDTN/2 -- will stay on current digital channel (43)
KDFW/4 -- will stay on current digital channel (35)
KXAS/5 -- will stay on current digital channel (41)
WFAA/8 -- will return to current analog channel (8)
KTVT/11 -- will return to current analog channel (11)
KERA/13 -- will return to current analog channel (13)
KTXA/21 -- will return to current analog channel (21)
KUVN/23 -- will return to current analog channel (23)
KDFI/27 -- will return to current analog channel (27)
KMPX/29 -- will stay on current digital channel (30)
KDAF/33 -- will stay on current digital channel (32)
KXTX/39 -- will stay on current digital channel (40)
KTAQ/47 -- will stay on current digital channel (46)
KSTR/49 -- will stay on current digital channel (48)
KFWD/52 -- proposes to move to digital channel vacated by WFAA (9)
KLDT/55 -- no election made, must wait for next round in digital channel election
KDTX/58 -- will stay on current digital channel (45)
KPXD/68 -- will stay on current digital channel (42)

North of us, KXII/12 in Sherman, TX has elected to return to its analog channel (12), and KTEN/10 in Ada, OK will stay on its digital channel (26).

Note that these are the channels that these stations will be on when the transition to digital is complete and the analog transmitters are shut off. Joe Barton's wishes aside, this is probably at least several years off...
post #667 of 7246
Looks like the need for a VHF antenna will remain in the Dallas market.

Thanks for the info Thomas
post #668 of 7246
You're welcome...

What I wonder is if all channel antennas will be able to shrink signficantly in size after the transition. After all, they'll not generally have to accomodate low band VHF, but only high band VHF and UHF reception. Theoretically, that means that the antennas could shrink by 2/3.
post #669 of 7246
Just thought I would say that I have not had a single problem with any of the digital channels since my last post (Fri. night). NASCAR looked pretty good in HD last night and today.

So far it looks like the 7777 took care of all my problems.
post #670 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Thomas Desmond
You're welcome...

What I wonder is if all channel antennas will be able to shrink signficantly in size after the transition. After all, they'll not generally have to accomodate low band VHF, but only high band VHF and UHF reception. Theoretically, that means that the antennas could shrink by 2/3.


Yes, and that will also mean I can work 6 meters with more than 20 watts without complaints from the neighbors about my trashing channel 4 and 5.

post #671 of 7246
Anyone else having problems with KDFW FOX 4 this morning. I have no signal.
post #672 of 7246
KDFW and WFAA-DT are gone here. All else is good.
post #673 of 7246
KDFW and WFAA-DT are back on the air. They both came back within one minute of each other.
post #674 of 7246
KTXA-DT will begin airing a series of IMax Movies on 21.1.

The first two IMax movies on 21.1 are scheduled to air this weekend.

The titles are:
"Ultimate G" and "Tropical Rainforest" (Disclaimer, These tapes are not yet in house and if needed we will be substituting two other IMax movies that are already in-house.)

These titles are 1-hour in length each and air back to back. The first airing is Saturday 2/19/05 at 7:00PM with a repeat airing on Sunday 2/20/05 at Noon to 2:00PM.

Bill
post #675 of 7246
WFAA has been out for me for more than a week.
Before that I had a strong signal.
Can't get it on my Mitts tuner or my Dish 621.
Anyone know whats going on. I know 8.1 is VHF but nothing has changed with my eqipment.
Tried rescan still same problem level keeps going up and down from 0 to 60.
post #676 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Technobill
KTXA-DT will begin airing a series of IMax Movies on 21.1....These tapes...

That's great! We look forward to seeing them.

One question though: Does your tape deck record HD as well? I'm curious whether that the reason the UPN delay on nights when a Maverick game shifts the lineup aren't in HD.

Xesdeeni
post #677 of 7246
bobr66,

I don't have an answer for you except that in Highland Village I'm getting 8.1 at near 80%. I am using an 811 receiver from dish with an attic antenna. However 11.1 is entirely different issue. Its not coming in higher than 49% no matter what I do.

Cary
post #678 of 7246
I replaced the antena with a Terk TV55. I now get all networks at over 100 except 13-1.
post #679 of 7246
Think I posted to wrong area. I'll try again.....I am in Frisco trying to get HD ota signals wiht no luck. Is there an exact angle/degre to point my antenna? It is in the attic right now. May consider mounting outside.
Thanks,
E
post #680 of 7246
You need to point just slightly west of due south. The transmitters are in Cedar Hill. If you roof decking has the aluminum sheet on the inside then you should install outdoors. If not it should work fine.
post #681 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Xesdeeni
That's great! We look forward to seeing them.

One question though: Does your tape deck record HD as well? I'm curious whether that the reason the UPN delay on nights when a Maverick game shifts the lineup aren't in HD.

Xesdeeni

Yes we are able to record HD.... If you give me specifics I will find out.

Are you talking about delays on KTVT or KTXA, what shows, what days?
post #682 of 7246
A correction to that digital channel election list that I posted a few days ago. Apparently, KTXA is electing to go to channel 19 (when it is vacated by KTVT) or staying on their current digital allocation (18).

Of course, the man who can confirm the digital election (and maybe some of the reasons) is right here... Bill, is there anything that you can tell us?
post #683 of 7246
im in Lancaster and havent made the move to HD yet for a couple reasons
mainly because there isnt alot of content to watch in HD...what 10 channels?
im located in Lancaster which is south of Dallas approx 20 mins Near the cedar hill antennas. Anyhow im a subscriber to Comcast Basic cable cable internet. No complaints from either service but i would like to eventually go with HD from comcast instead of OTA. What i was wondering is....anyone from the dallas area have basic cable and comcast HD package? if so what do you pay a month to have the service include a breakdown of retail fees. Ive been told i could keep my basic rate and upgrade to HD content with their receiverthat i would rent for 5 bucks a month and the hd programming is 5 dollars also.basic cable + internet cost me 75 total. i could justify getting HD for 10 dollars more if there was enough content.


also has anyone tried QAM Tuner in the dallas area with comcast? does comcast have unencrypted HD content running on their basic cable plan?
post #684 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Thomas Desmond
A correction to that digital channel election list that I posted a few days ago. Apparently, KTXA is electing to go to channel 19 (when it is vacated by KTVT) or staying on their current digital allocation (18).

Of course, the man who can confirm the digital election (and maybe some of the reasons) is right here... Bill, is there anything that you can tell us?

This is correct, KTXA-DT as a first choice will move to ch. 19 that will be vacated by KTVT-DT when it re locates to ch 11.
post #685 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Technobill
Yes we are able to record HD.... If you give me specifics I will find out.

Are you talking about delays on KTVT or KTXA, what shows, what days?

Well, it's been a couple of weeks, but the Tuesday night lineup was delayed for a Mavericks broadcast. Luckily I caught it and moved the recording time (unfortunately, I didn't catch the last time). But it wasn't in HD. It was in "picture box" (SD upconvert of letterbox).

As I said, I missed the last time (the week before last?), so I can't say whether that delayed broadcast was HD. But the time before that (four weeks?) was.


Oh BTW, is the weather channel (21-2) really 352x240p? One tuner says it is, and the one on my TV can't receive it. But that's not a legal ATSC resolution.

Xesdeeni
post #686 of 7246
Is anyone having trouble with KDAF-DT (WB33)? Only one of my three tuners can pick this up. The one in my TV can't see it at all. The FusionHDTV can see the channel, but it can't decode a picture. The MyHD isn't having any problem with it.

Xesdeeni
post #687 of 7246
And another thing. I just noticed that KDFI-DT (27) is now transmitting in 720p! I've never seen anything on there that could ever have an HD source, so I'm wondering why they switched. Anyone know?

Xesdeeni
post #688 of 7246
> But that's not a legal ATSC resolution.

Since the FCC didn't mandate that stations stick to the ATSC table of 18 standards, there really is no such thing as a "legal" resolution. It certainly is a non-standard resolution, although it seems to work well with both my Zenith and Toshiba boxes.

> And another thing. I just noticed that KDFI-DT (27) is now transmitting in 720p! I've never seen anything on there that could ever have an HD source, so I'm wondering why they switched. Anyone know?

Perhaps they switched for corporate consistency, since they're owned by Fox and Fox favors the 720p format. This would also allow KDFI-DT to offer in HD any Fox programming that might get bumped from KDFW for some reason -- much the same as CBS programming occasionally shows up on KTXA.

As for current programming on KDFI that could run in HD...I was told by someone in Paramount's syndication group that "Cheers" is available in HD. Over time, we'll probably see some other syndicated shows offered in HD as well, although that's going to be a very, very slow process.
post #689 of 7246
Quote:


Originally posted by Thomas Desmond
> But that's not a legal ATSC resolution.

Since the FCC didn't mandate that stations stick to the ATSC table of 18 standards, there really is no such thing as a "legal" resolution. It certainly is a non-standard resolution, although it seems to work well with both my Zenith and Toshiba boxes.

That's probably semantics. The FCC did mandate the ATSC specification be used. And this is not one of the ATSC specified resolutions. However, by "legal," I didn't mean in the law sense (as in they'd get fined), I meant in the following the specification sense. That was probably a misleading word.

Regardless, my TV can't receive it, which is pretty understandable, since the TV was designed with the ATSC specified resolutions in mind.

In any case, it occurred to me that the FCC allowed any data type to be in the ancilliary data, so long as the first channel was ATSC-compliant. So while my TV (and presumably the thousands of other Mitsubishi TVs) can't receive the picture, and while I question the logic of choosing something pretty much guaranteed to be incompatible with a significant fraction of the TVs out there, it's not something that is actionable (unless/until it breaks a TV ;-) ).
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> And another thing. I just noticed that KDFI-DT (27) is now transmitting in 720p! I've never seen anything on there that could ever have an HD source, so I'm wondering why they switched. Anyone know?

Perhaps they switched for corporate consistency, since they're owned by Fox and Fox favors the 720p format. This would also allow KDFI-DT to offer in HD any Fox programming that might get bumped from KDFW for some reason -- much the same as CBS programming occasionally shows up on KTXA.

As for current programming on KDFI that could run in HD...I was told by someone in Paramount's syndication group that "Cheers" is available in HD. Over time, we'll probably see some other syndicated shows offered in HD as well, although that's going to be a very, very slow process.

I figured the FOX connection was why they chose 720p, but I've never seen programming bumped from FOX to KDFI. I was kind of hoping this might mean Texas Rangers games might be in HD this season.

Xesdeeni
post #690 of 7246
> The FCC did mandate the ATSC specification be used.

That portion of the ATSC specification that includes that table of 18 combinations of image resolution, aspect ratio, and frame rate was *not* mandated by the FCC. So it isn't really just a matter of semantics -- broadcasters are not required by FCC rules to use one of those 18 standards.

As a practical matter, it is probably smart to stick to that table for the main channel -- since it seems that non-standard formats don't necessarily work with all the existing STBs. On the other hand, I've read elsewhere that some of the existing STBs may not work with at least one format that *is* in that table -- 1080p at 24 fps.
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