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Originally Posted by mgsports View Post

What's next for IONTV changing ISHOP intill a channel like HSN and QVC,SHOPHQ,own Jewerly Channel.

My local ion station (Washington, DC) just added HSN as a fifth sub-channel today. Did they ad that to all their stations?
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Most of them, at least. Not sure if it's all of them.

- Trip
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Originally Posted by Ferguson View Post

I can't help but wonder how much influence the cable companies had over 47-4's decision to dump Me-TV.
I'm no fan of cable companies, but I can't see how they would benefit from making one of their must-carry channels (47.1) less watchable. I think it's more likely that KTXD is just using the cheapest programming they can find to fill the times between their own shows. They figure sure, they'll lose viewers and ad revenue, but they'll also shed payments to Me-TV and may come out ahead.

The whole KTXD fiasco seems like a bait-and-switch. They used Me-TV to gain an audience, then added their own shows, figuring folks would watch them (while waiting for the next Me-TV show) rather than changing the channel. Then once their own shows started attracting measurable ratings, they dropped the Me-TV "bait."

I don't think that strategy will work though. I think KTXD has seriously over-estimated the appeal of their own shows.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

I'm no fan of cable companies, but I can't see how they would benefit from making one of their must-carry channels (47.1) less watchable. I think it's more likely that KTXD is just using the cheapest programming they can find to fill the times between their own shows. They figure sure, they'll lose viewers and ad revenue, but they'll also shed payments to Me-TV and may come out ahead.

The whole KTXD fiasco seems like a bait-and-switch. They used Me-TV to gain an audience, then added their own shows, figuring folks would watch them (while waiting for the next Me-TV show) rather than changing the channel. Then once their own shows started attracting measurable ratings, they dropped the Me-TV "bait."

I don't think that strategy will work though. I think KTXD has seriously over-estimated the appeal of their own shows.

Do any TV stations actually "pay" for local broadcast rights of any TV oldie subchannels? I'va always assumed that it was a matter of bartering for available local advertising minutes. If a TV station sales department determines it can get local ad buyers to cumulatively pay more for ads interspersed between locally produced shows, then it may be better served by carrying schmaltzy, locally produced programming. In Washington, DC, one channel has something called Washington, Non-Stop that pre-empts some of its CoziTV programming. While that programming might get lower ratings than whatever CoziTv show it replaced, those eyeballs might be more valuable to local advertisers.
Edited by AntAltMike - 11/20/13 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by AntAltMike View Post

My local ion station (Washington, DC) just added HSN as a fifth sub-channel today. Did they ad that to all their stations?

Most of them, at least. Not sure if it's all of them.

- Trip

Still trying to find out about Houston. Houston is different because Ion markets the Airbox service there, and Ion has two affiliates (a full-power station and a low-power one). On the full-power station I think they just air the main Ion channel and the encrypted Airbox ones. But I think the LP carries the same lineup as other cities; if so, it probably has HSN now.

I'm wondering whether, if this deal works out, HSN may eventually sell off their LP stations in cities like Dallas that also have Ion affiliates. Not much sense in broadcasting the same content twice. Probably way too soon to tell at this point, though.
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Hi, friends. It's been a long time since I've posted on AVS, but I'd like to share our cable-cutting story.

We live in far north Fort Worth, near Saginaw. We live in a two-story house with a similar two-story house next to us. Here's the setup I purchased through Amazon after weeks of online research:
  • Antennas Direct DB4E Antenna
  • Antennas Direct STM-715 30-Inch Antenna J-Mount
  • CHANNEL PLUS 2512 DC + IR Passing 2-Way Splitter/Combiner
  • Mediabridge Coaxial Digital Audio Video Cable - (50 Foot/Black) - Triple Shielded, F-Pin to F-Pin with Easy Grip Connector Caps (cut into separate custom lengths)
  • Coaxial connectors

Total investment: $120.00 (est)

I was originally going to mount the antenna on the roof next to our old DIRECTV antenna, but after testing the antenna placed at ground level, I decided to mount it in the middle of the second story. Even with our neighbor's house next to us, we receive 70 channels on both TVs. After eliminating the numerous spanish and religious stations, we have about 30-40 stations of perfectly clear content, including all of the major networks. The HD quality is far superior to AT&T U-verse's horribly compressed HD. Our "plan" consists of Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu Plus, and OTA TV. I may integrate a DVR in the future, but Hulu essentially plays that roll right now.
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Just discovered that Radiodiscussions.com has shut down, apparently for good.

R.I.P.

Most participants in the Texas TV forum (and similar TV forums) will probably be coming to the appropriate threads here at AVSForum. Kinda too bad, in a way; we Dallasites won't be hearing about the goings-on in Houston, Austin, or San Antonio as before unless we subscribe to the other threads.
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I was on there yesterday. Gone now, 404 Not Found. Last time there I noticed a rather expensive new pay schedule for full access.
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Not to be outdone by KPXD/68, KAZD/55 now has a third infomercial channel. They're up to 7 subchannels now, with .1 in HD eek.gif

Just in time for the holidays tongue.gif
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Yesterday the 'Pal added KRIV Fox 26 in Houston. I got to watch it for nearly an hour between 7 and 8 am before it faded away. Rare for me to see any overnight skip still coming in.
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Looks like the ice storm wrought havoc on KLEG/44. It's barely watchable tonight.

All other Dallas channels seem to have survived OK, though.
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Do you remember when the F-4 clipped the guy wire on one of the Cedar Hill antennas in the '60s/'70s?

 

I have a friend that did some work on one of those antennas - he said his VTVM was useless up there - the air is just alive with energy.

 

I used to go swimming at a fantastic swimming hole at the base of one of the guy wires.

 

You could shake the guy wire and the impulse wouldn't come back for many, many seconds.

post #7063 of 7246
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Just discovered that Radiodiscussions.com has shut down, apparently for good.

R.I.P.

Most participants in the Texas TV forum (and similar TV forums) will probably be coming to the appropriate threads here at AVSForum. Kinda too bad, in a way; we Dallasites won't be hearing about the goings-on in Houston, Austin, or San Antonio as before unless we subscribe to the other threads.

Very sad about this. I visted it daily.
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Yes sorry to hear the radio forum has shut down. I believe the radio discussions site split from the radio info site, whereas it used to be a sub forum. Perhaps more radio discussion can be allowed on AVS in the local market reception threads. I get very good FM reception from multiple markets with just basic rabbit ears, despite the fact Radioshack doesn't sell them anymore. And I have a Winegard 6000 FM antenna that gets great reception in the attic including HD Radio stations.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Looks like the ice storm wrought havoc on KLEG/44. It's barely watchable tonight.

All other Dallas channels seem to have survived OK, though.
Spoke too soon. Looks like KHPK/28 died sometime after I posted that. Edit: around 3 AM according to the signal strength graphs at RabbitEars.info.

KLEG/44's signal is still very weak, but watchable tonight. No pixelation like last night.
Edited by JHBrandt - 12/7/13 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Ferguson View Post

Do you remember when the F-4 clipped the guy wire on one of the Cedar Hill antennas in the '60s/'70s?

I have a friend that did some work on one of those antennas - he said his VTVM was useless up there - the air is just alive with energy.

I used to go swimming at a fantastic swimming hole at the base of one of the guy wires.

You could shake the guy wire and the impulse wouldn't come back for many, many seconds.
I lived in OK back then but I've read about it since moving here. Sounds like it was a big disaster.
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It was much later than I remembered - I'll keep looking - a friend of yours?

NEARLY SIMULTANEOUS MILITARY JET CRASHES CLAIM TWO LIVES

The Associated Press, Associated Press

Jan. 14, 1987 2:23 PM ET

UNDATED Undated (AP) _ Two military jets crashed within five minutes of each other in Alabama and Texas today, and authorities said two people were killed and one injured in the first crash while the crew escaped uninjured in the second.

 

The plane was heading from Montgomery to Eglin Air Force Base near Fort Walton Beach, Fla., said Frank Taylor, spokesman for Maxwell Air Force Base. The plane was assigned to Eglin, he said.

 

In the Texas crash, two crew members aboard the F-4 Phantom ejected before the plane crashed into a wooded area near an antenna complex that serves most television and FM radio stations in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, officials said.

 

''Somehow, the aircraft got caught up in the Cedar Hill antenna complex,'' said Paul Engstrom, a spokesman for the Dallas Naval Air Station. ''Both the pilot and the radar intercept officer both ejected safely and are unharmed.''

 

The accident put radio stations KZEW-FM and KSCS-FM off the air. The plane was conducting a routine training flight when it crashed, Engstrom said.


Edited by Ferguson - 12/7/13 at 5:27pm
post #7068 of 7246
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Originally Posted by AntAltMike View Post

Do any TV stations actually "pay" for local broadcast rights of any TV oldie subchannels? I'va always assumed that it was a matter of bartering for available local advertising minutes. If a TV station sales department determines it can get local ad buyers to cumulatively pay more for ads interspersed between locally produced shows, then it may be better served by carrying schmaltzy, locally produced programming. In Washington, DC, one channel has something called Washington, Non-Stop that pre-empts some of its CoziTV programming. While that programming might get lower ratings than whatever CoziTv show it replaced, those eyeballs might be more valuable to local advertisers.

Services like ME-TV and Antenna TV are indeed offered on a bartered basis. Typically, the network keeps six minutes of advertising per hour, and the station gets six minutes. But that can vary on Antenna TV, since not all of the shows that they run are edited to allow for a full commercial load.

Ironically, as KTXD has switched to running syndicated programming, they probably are now shelling out cash for some of the old shows that they air, because most of those shows are sold into syndication on a cash basis only. The primary exception that I know of is some of the shows that are offered through The Program Exchange (I think this includes "Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeannie") -- all of those shows are bartered.
post #7069 of 7246
I need a favor for anyone in DFW/NTX on Time Warner with Sports Pass. Can you please check channel 792 Fox Soccer Plus HD and tell me if you see 2 areas of vertical pixel/dotted lines on each side of the center of the screen. They are a bit hard to see but usually show up blue or white and flicker. We do not have any STBs, WMC only. Thanks in advance.
Edited by julesism - 12/8/13 at 11:09am
post #7070 of 7246
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Originally Posted by Thomas Desmond View Post

Ironically, as KTXD has switched to running syndicated programming, they probably are now shelling out cash for some of the old shows that they air, because most of those shows are sold into syndication on a cash basis only. The primary exception that I know of is some of the shows that are offered through The Program Exchange (I think this includes "Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeannie") -- all of those shows are bartered.
I guess they figured they'd make more money selling the extra 6 minutes of ads than the new programs would cost. Apparently the morons didn't realize that far fewer folks would want to watch those new shows, thinking "oldies are oldies, right?"

Any word on getting Me-TV back in the area? I'm about to resort to putting in a Homeworx at my in-laws' home in OK and swapping out the HDD whenever my wife & I visit.
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<<< JHBrandt - Any word on getting Me-TV back in the area? I'm about to resort to putting in a Homeworx at my in-laws' home in OK and swapping out the HDD whenever my wife & I visit. >>>

 

That's a thought - Where is the closest broadcaster of Me-TV to the metroplex?

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Just checked with RabbitEars. Looks like Waco, Tyler, and Abilene are the closest. (My mom lives in Tyler, but she's a DirecTV household with no OTA antenna. The in-laws are also DirecTV, but I put up an OTA antenna for their guest bedroom biggrin.gif)

Also in Texas, Houston, San Angelo, San Antonio, Beaumont, Corpus Christi, Odessa, Lubbock, and Harlingen have Me-TV affiliates. But Oklahoma City and Tulsa are closer than any of those. (Well, Tulsa and Houston are about the same distance.)

At present, DFW is the only one of the top ten markets lacking a Me-TV affiliate. Stupid KTXD.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Spoke too soon. Looks like KHPK/28 died sometime after I posted that. Edit: around 3 AM according to the signal strength graphs at RabbitEars.info.

KLEG/44's signal is still very weak, but watchable tonight. No pixelation like last night.
KHPK/28 is back on the air. Maybe they just needed to thaw out.

KLEG/44 is pixelating again at my home. Don't see any drop at Bob Nelson's, though. Maybe my antenna needs to thaw out (but much weaker K25FW and KATA are coming in fine) confused.gif
post #7074 of 7246
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Just checked with RabbitEars. Looks like Waco, Tyler, and Abilene are the closest. (My mom lives in Tyler, but she's a DirecTV household with no OTA antenna. The in-laws are also DirecTV, but I put up an OTA antenna for their guest bedroom biggrin.gif)

 

I was just looking at shooting Waco or Tyler - you need a 100' antenna to get either one from DFW.

 

<<< At present, DFW is the only one of the top ten markets lacking a Me-TV affiliate. Stupid KTXD. >>>  -  Agreed

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Waco's MeTV affiliate will be unusable anyway due to KFWD.

- Trip
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Getting KCEN from anywhere in the DFW area would be exceptionally difficult. Might be possible if you were far enough SE (or SW Ft. Worth), and combined two antennas pointed directly at KCEN - and separated just the right amount to null out KFWD.

I'm 110 miles away from KCEN's tower - not really practical even if KFWD weren't there. And KCEB is even worse. It's well east of Tyler - completely out of reach even from Terrell.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Looks like the ice storm wrought havoc on KLEG/44. It's barely watchable tonight.

All other Dallas channels seem to have survived OK, though.
I noticed worst degradation on the K31GL station. Thinking it was the 2-3" of ice on the roof of the garage, the antenna being in the attic and having to receive through that stuff. But the others were about usual.
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Originally Posted by Ferguson View Post

AMEN - it sucks.

I can't help but wonder how much influence the cable companies had over 47-4's decision to dump Me-TV.

The DFW market is worth a billion dollars per year.

Tens of thousands of customers at a thousand dollars per year is many many millions of dollars, any way you look at it.

Kinda funny I watched a little bit of 47.1 tonight for the first time in two months, and they ran an Antennas Direct ad touting over the air TV. I wonder if that went out over the local cable and sat feeds ?biggrin.gif
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Some transmitters will detect reflected signal from ice build up and back the power down to prevent damage. If icing on the K31GL antenna was particularly bad, or your signal strength on that one was particularly poor to start with, it decreasing power could have the knocked it below the decode line.

- Trip
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Originally Posted by ed_in_tx View Post

Kinda funny I watched a little bit of 47.1 tonight for the first time in two months, and they ran an Antennas Direct ad touting over the air TV. I wonder if that went out over the local cable and sat feeds ?biggrin.gif
Yes, I think 47.1 is on cable/sat. I doubt they liked the ads but I don't think they can block them.

What gets me, though, is the ads for the Clear antenna (one of those "leaf" antennas) I see on Hot-TV. AFAIK Hot-TV is only available OTA, so if you can see the ad, you don't need the product!
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