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To other Sony KD-36XS955 owners out there, including KenTech,
I would also see what your "tweaked out" service menu settings are as well.
Please share them.
Thanks!

Bolo - If I were a betting man, I would bet that you own the Sony NS50 "upconverter" dvd player. Am I right?

If so, that player has a long sad history of squashing the image - typically over HDMI, and sometimes over component. I wouldn't call it a shift, moreover a vertical compression of the image which makes images appear wider then they should be. This is why you have the 1-inch black space on the top of the screen. I owned that player for a week, before I realized that the squashed image was completely unacceptable.

There are several threads dedicated to this issue. Because of that huge problem with that player, I think it is completely useless piece of machinery which belongs over a stack of papers rather than on a tv.

You do know there is a user menu adjustment don't you?

You don't have to go into the service menu to adjust the picture vertically and move it.Just an FYI

Ken,

I noticed this too. My SBRT is at 23, and my DRV and CUT settings are both 61, 22, 17. I notice my xCUT and xDRV ratios are far off from yours. Are there likely significant variations from set to set? Perhaps my DVD player color output difference may account for this as well, or are my settings likely off? I cross referenced my whites with the whites of clouds from DVDs that don't appear to have artistic digital color grading done to them, and they matched pretty closely to the clouds outside my window. My white is best described as an ever so slightly "golden" white, which to my eyes is the white I see from the front lit clouds. The picture looks nice, and the whites seem natural if only a tiny bit reddish. I have tried reducing red, but then green starts to get to strong. At some point, it seems a compromise must be made.

Nope, I have the Toshiba SD-6980. I think I found the problem though, the image was just being stretched too much on the raster and there was not enough space to show the rest of it.

Just picked up the DVE disc today, is it pretty self explanetory, i have not poped it in yet..
do i use service menu or sliders, or double you tee eff

Do it all in the service menu, Read KenTech's guides, Everything you need to know is in this thread.

i read it all, but some i didnt understand, maybe its cause i live in grand rapids and the stupid people make me stupid

I'm starting to feel a bit overwhelmed by all my "tweaking", not intimidated but very overwhelmed. I don't suppose there is a way to force the xbox 360 to produce a 1080i (or 720p for that matter) image to check for overscan.

i dont think i did it correct, i was able to do it through sliders, i wasnt able to turn down brightness to where the outer black was as black as the background while still seeing the inner one, but i got it close.... ODD, i ended up turning down my brightness when i am having brightness problems of not being able to see, umm, the whole picture setting, and bloom thing, didnt make any sense to me, i went from minimum to max and never seen any line get bigger or smaller...
for color they said to use the blue filter, which they didnt give me, they gave me a purple, red and green... i tried my best with the contrast setting, and i guess thats up to 40 while brighness is down to like 27 or 24

Nope.

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Don't use the filters use the colr guns in the service menu instead it's more accurate that way. the color guns is RGBS in the service menu.For adjusting brightness ignore the DVE narrator this is how you do it the right way. Adjust brightness untill the blacker than black bar is barely the same color as the background, don't adjust brightness untill the blacker than black bar dissapears that's when your crushing blacks.

I think the easiest way to adjust black level is to view material, especially people wearing black clothing,etc. This is the best way to adjust black level since there should be detail in those areas it should'nt be a blob of darkness. For example a person wearing a leather jacket, adjust untill you can see all the wrinkles in it, there should'nt be any blobs of darkness what i refur to as "Black Holes". You will see what i mean when you adjust it in realtime.

A few good movies to test are T2 ultimate edition or extreme edition, and pirates of the carribean. Both are excellent movies for shadow detail.

Matt~

p.s. Lower your contrast setting,raising it affects black level and picture detail, it's not as sharp with it at a higher setting.Keep it in the middle, trust me on this.For a bright picture to see shadow detail you want to adjust brightness not contrast,raising contrast will lose detail.

its very hard to see it but, i do see the darkest bar....
but the pools of black is what im having with video games, ill go in a tunel in burnout and see nothing but black...
colors i think are actually pretty fine.. and im having no problems at all with
i dont have this problem with movies or tv, or so it seems.. even playing movies on my 360

nick sent me his tv settings, which i think im going to try..

Sense you have a 360, Download the NBA live 06 demo it has a brightness pattern in the settings. Each component in your setup needs to be calibrated separatly you can't just calibrate your DVD player and expect all inputs to be correct. And if your color hasn't been calibrated i can guarentee you have red push, Every Sony CRT does out of the box.

Yup, HDTV and SDTV have different black levels as you probably noticed..HD is darker hence your xbox360.

To fix the color decoder try RYR-14,RYB-14,GYR-6,GYB-4

To adjust your inputs to balance black level first find your input with the most reliable black level such as component inputs and set SBRT and leave that input at 0 for UBOF. Once SBRT is set then use UBOF to balance the other inputs in black level. Please note that UBOF is input and resolution dependant so it's different for each resolution and input you use.

Good night guys!

i'll get back to you tommorow if you still need help irhxcbcziuzxs

Matt~

Dont different games use different resolutions?
My 360 is on video 5
My Ps2 is on video 6
was there any purpose of me getting the dve, it didnt seem to do much good.
Like i said nick sent me his settings, very helpfull, but thats alot of settings to change. Everything looks fine, and great to boot, besides my 360, or maybe i just think it does... haha.... hmm, dunno
shouldnt nick's settings work fine...

My settings are a starting point, Its not going to be 100% perfect on yours cause every set is a little diffrent from the factory and also because you probably have diffrent equipment then me. There basically Settings that i have got from the various guides KenTech has posted and some calibrating on my end and also from me and SurfingMatt discussing settings. DVE wasn't a waste cause you need it to calibrate your DVD player. Your probably going to need to adjust overscan, Geometry and alot of other settings also and you will need alot of patterns on DVE.

You sound like you may not be up to all of this, It is alot of work and a learning process, Maybe you would be better off geting an ISF calibration from someone trained. Just another option.

Hey guys,
Overall which dvd is best for calibrating a Sony kd-36xs955 tv, the Avia dvd or the DVE disc?
What are the basic differences between them?
Do I need both of them or just one?
Thanks.

What are the global settings for picture quality calibration you recommend
thanks

DVE, it has more test patterns and even more audio options as well to test your speaker system.

some global settings are SBRT, RYR-GYB and QPDC for focus.

nah its fine, im just slightly overwhelmed and frustrated.

irhxdffabc123rsvp-

A lot of us are with you. I have some interest in this image science, but I by no means enjoy the extra strain of balancing all of these tedious codes. A lot of this is just a means to an end, which is being able to enjoy dvds on a perfect image. I would prefer not to be here asking about service menu settings. Some of it is fun and interesting, and I'm glad I've learned a new skill. But it is VERY frustrating to get things correct, especially when one thing after another doesn't work. Once you do get things right, which you eventually will one way or another, the payoff is that much better.

One thing i've learned - if you get as ISF, make sure you are clear on how you need the image to look to your eyes. There is a compromise between what's "standard," and what is pleasing to your eye. My set looked great after calibration, and as good as it looked, it was still a little rough on my eyes. I've since been tweaking it to slightly improve things, and have succeded mostly. It's expensive to have these technicians come by your house, so it's good that we've been able to halp each other out, and also learn something new at the same time.

yea, im thankfull to nick for giving me his settings, and im sure it will be better than what i have now, i really would love to take a picture and show you guys the pools of black in these games... if its not better ill put it all back to the way it was.. tedius.. but.. oh well. was trying to use dve for my 360 but it ended up turning my brightness down double you tee eff, and my picture up as the contrast deal thing didnt work well, and i never seen any lines getting bigger, the color filter i have, is indeed purple unless purple changed to blue, and blue changed to purple, i have no eye problems of the such...

i will try nicks settings tonight, and let you guys know!

irhxcbcziuzxs,

I'm starting to think that maybe there is something wrong with your tv, becuase i never on these forums have heard someone have such a problem even at SBRT at 31 you say it's still too dark, now right there i can tell there is a problem because at that setting it should show everything.Can you return this tv, how long have you owned it for?

irhxcbcziuzxs,

Are you playing in a pitch black room? If you are see if you can put some type of light behind the tv. It helps alot.

irhxcbcziuzxs,

In the usermenu what is your brightness and contrast set to? Set them both to the middle, When you adjust SBRT and UBOF in the service menu your brightness slider should be in the middle.

I see you guys had to copy and paste his name as well huh LOL

Yep lol