Sorry if this is wandering off the subject. I am just responding to something from a couple of pages ago.
Regarding the color decoding you discussed, I had my ISF calibrator (Chad Billheimer) return to do some tweaking last night. He is VERY skilled, and had previously adjusted my focus and convergence amazingly tight! I ran your color-decoding settings by him. Months ago we had initially set all inputs to 13-15-5-3 for RYR through GYB respectively. I liked this, even though I felt it gave the colors a bit of garishness to them (which is less realistic). With this is mind, the calibrator also found that the color slider should be up by about 1 more tick from where we previously had it. With the colors already being a bit gaudy, I felt this would be wrong. But rather than doubting that, I doubted the color decoding pattern. So we looked back at those values. He tried re-calibrating the colors using several different test discs. Using all of them to calibrate, 14-14-6-4 indeed got us the closest, which was a bit closer than 13-15-5-3. In reality, some of the ideal color decoding settings are more towards the middle of 2 numbers, but the closest combinations of all of them seemed to be that 14-14-6-4 pattern. It also looks the most accurate as well, which makes a lot of sense. And naturally, it is also the most realistic looking. This allowed the color to feasibly slide up a notch to its correct level and still look appropriate.
Good call on that one Ken!
He worked mostly on my 480p/component with the XP-30 player. Regarding SYSM-2 versus SYSM-3 - I personally prefer SYSM-2. As you have said, both combinations can get you to similar destinations. I asked the calibrator to redo the sharpness using SYSM-2 as a value. I had no mides or VM's activated at the time. According to the patterns I had on my 57 RP/CRT, he approved the zero mide use (mide-63) and VM's turned off. Part of this was due to my personally preference, but he also felt it wasn't needed quite as much with SYSM being set at 2. That being said, he did take a look at MHLY and MHLC, and felt zero was the best for the colors. He didn't look at MHYL or MHCL as closely, but still felt that the MIDE-63 looked the best with the color/sharp patterns. Keep in mind I'm a filter for translating this info. since he's a pro and I'm not. But this is roughly what he was saying. Also, my screen is 57" and VM's personally never were easy to handle on a screen that large.
I swore SHAP and PREO had effect on 480P material. I swore that lowering SHAP to zero took away the coarsness with 480p material. I saw it happen with a few dvd's over 480p. He did not see any change to Avia sharp patterns while manipulating SHAP in 480p, and felt the menu was not active for this resolution. I think the change is so subtle it was hard to notice, but I swear there is interaction going on. Otherwise I would not have bothered changing SHAP to zero.
As for sharpness, I am left with SYSM-2 and the sharpness slider. The result is a VERY film-like picture. The XP-30 puts out a great picture as it is. The sharp-slider is at 22 ticks. I feel this is a bit low, even though it did well with the sharp pattern on Avia. Question: What is the appropriate sharpness level for this? I want to say it should be somewhere between 24 and 30. One of you found a good level, but I can't seem to track it down. My calibrator set it very well, I feel it could use a couple ticks more, and I was curious what you typically used.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you some positive feedback with your spot-on color decoding Ken!
Another question - the "Axis" value in the color service menu - is this merely a value that points to different color dedocing patterns, in the same way that different "Mide" values point to different mide collumns? I have entered in the exact same color decoding values for Axis - 1 and Axis - 0, and switched the two back and forth, and there is no change. I want to say that axis affects nothing else but color decoding values. If this is true, this means that you can mix up the color decoding values for a few inputs, to avoid having to compromise by using one color pattern for all inputs. Color decoding is global for each axis value, but the assigned axis value for each input is not global. For weeks i had the same colors for all inputs but the coax/antenna, and it was because axis was different for only that input.