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post #2821 of 2959
When I start setting the raster (still dont know what it is) according to the instructions in the manual and I set:
Set to Service Mode and adjust as follows:
05 AGNG AGING 1, AGING 2 2
00 HBLK Blanking Enable 0

The screen becomes kind of grey (AGNG) and HBLK causes to show more on the right site. I still dont understand the term "raster"
My understanding is that raster is visible area in the screen. So after I set above I see: see attached

is the idea to place the visible screen from < to > in the middle by using HCNT?

thx
LL
post #2822 of 2959
The raster is sort of like the picture frame, and the MID1 settings are like the photo mounted on the frame. The idea is to first reduce raster to see its horizontal edges, then center it. Then you set the size and center the picture with MID1 as close to the raster edge as possible. Then you reset raster just past the physical screen border (slightly overscanned).
post #2823 of 2959
Been working on my 36XBR400. I bought the Avia II DVD and it seems promising. One thing that annoys me is that my set is missing many options from the service menu that the final generation of HD CRTs got, like full RGB gamma, RGB saturation and focus. According to the gamma screen of Avia, my set is running around 1.6. But things don't look all flat, so I am confused. Also, I found out it has not only a red push but is down in the greens a bit. Blue was accurate. With no RGB saturation adjustment I was forced to play with random options. I found one called AXIS in 2150P-4 (option 7) that said it was for "Color matrix setting." 0-3 range and default of 3 across the board. I played with the settings and to my amazement, a setting of 1 brought down the red saturation to about perfect AND brought up the greens to where they should have been. Still need to tweak white balance. Neutral seems whitest but despite trying to use it, I keep coming back to Warm, especially at night under incandescent room lighting.
post #2824 of 2959
One piece of advice: NEVER attempt to adjust settings in the service mode while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

After about 2 weeks of studying this thread I felt confident enough to tinker around a bit and fix some overscan. I fiddled around with the geometry settings WITHOUT writing down the original values! That was stoner-mistake #1. I thought to myself, "Everything will be cool, I'll just hit 0, enter, to bring everything back to their original settings."

It turns out I hit MUTE, enter, after changing each individual setting. At the time I didn't realize I only had to write settings once, and not after changing each specific value. This was stoner-mistake #2.

Needless to say, I ended up with a geometric oddity of a television. It was kinda like the very first projector screen I built, which was a piece of vinyl stretched over a bunch of pizza boxes, except worse.

Thankfully, after 3 weeks or so of studying this thread my sets geometry is now acceptable, with only a slight bowing at the top edges.

The color is now near-perfect, the blacks are no longer crushed, red push is fixed, and it looks 'balanced' and pleasing to my eyes.

Xbox 360 games look stunning now, and HD channels are near-perfection. I watched X-Men 3 in HD earlier today and it looked better than it did in the theater.

I gotta say Thank You! to KenTech as well as everyone whos been contributing to this monster thread. Its been informative, albeit a little scary at times, but hey, no risk no reward, right?
post #2825 of 2959
So, should we start with these test patterns in the service menu or should we try and calibrate as best we can with Avia/DVE first?
post #2826 of 2959
I hope this thread isn't completely dead. I have a Sony KV-40XBR800 and I went into the service menu to adjust some of the options because I noticed in my vista media center certain UI elements were being cut off. I got everything working properly but then realized that maximized browser windows on my tv were missing the bar @ the top and some info at the bottom. The BBLK fixed the bottom but when I adjust the TBLK value, when I put it down to 0 (which shows everything) there are like 3-4 huge black scanlines through the part of the picture that gets shown, any idea on how to fix this?
post #2827 of 2959
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Originally Posted by PublicSectorTech View Post

So, should we start with these test patterns in the service menu or should we try and calibrate as best we can with Avia/DVE first?

I had a problem using the 960's internal cross-hatch pattern.

Using the cross hatch pattern from the old INHD (which is stored on my HD DVR) I was able to set the geometry properly. However, with these settings the 960's internal cross-hatch test pattern was extremely distorted. Re-adjustments based on the service pattern badly warped the picture (in fact, the 960's pattern could not be adjusted as precisely as the external one). So my own personal experience has been to use external sources.
post #2828 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenTech View Post

Just to make sure we've got the terminology straight: The vertical displacement of color on horizintal white lines is called vertical convergence -- fixed with permanent magnets stuck on the backside of the CRT and hard to fiddle with, plus rotating magnets on the neck of the CRT. The "other" convergence (vertical lines have color fringes) is horizontal convergence, and there are elaborate service-mode adjustments for this in the D-CONV. See those manual pages referenced above in #1889 for decent documentation.

I have calibrated my set (grayscale and color), and it is wonderful.

Only, there is still a slight vertical convergence issue towards the bottom of the set (red is "above" the white horizontal line of test patterns). The more to the bottom, the worst. I do not feel like removing the back of the TV, and I am afraid a service tech may even screw it more ;-) [set still has 3 months of warranty left]

Any ways to perhaps tame that issue a bit through the geometry settings (some posters talked about the tilt or may be the focus)?

I adjusted the geometry before to tackle a nasty bowing on the left side on my set. I now looks a lot better than we I bought it. The red convergence issue was already there before the geometry fix though.

Thanx!
post #2829 of 2959
Okay, so, I have a Sony 34XBR800, and still love my set. But as I am wont to do, I tweak everything in my life; my tv is no different. Thanks to many here, I've gotten my set to look pretty darned good! Sadly, because I'm an idiot, I don't have all the original settings. I wrote down some of them, but as I tweaked, I changed some values that weren't written down, and confused myself with bad hand-writing and incomplete entries (such as not signifying which source I was tweaking, whether it be wide-stretch 480i or p, 720p or 1080i.

Lately I've been trying to work on the geometery of my set and nearly panicked last night when something really funky happened, and I was unable to reverse the problem. Hours later, I have it as close to perfect as I can get it for now, but I would love all the original default settings (preferably of all values for all sources) just so I can revert to the original should I get really frustrated. I know it's asking a lot, but does anyone here have such a wealth of info? If not, is there someone who has an untweaked 34XBR800 who is not afraid to go into the service menu and jot down the codes. I'm not made of money, being a single (widowed) father of two kids and two dogs, but I could offer at least a couple of bucks for your trouble. Any help?
post #2830 of 2959
Bump.
post #2831 of 2959
To anyone who has a 36XS955 ... what do you have your focus set to on the service menu? I'm a little nervous to go in there without a plan, at least if I have your settings I should be able to get some idea of what I need from mine.
post #2832 of 2959
Hey, just wanted to thank KenTech, GlenC and everyone for this thread, I had a great time this weekend tweaking around. My set looks a lot better without all the overscan.

Thanks again for all your help!
post #2833 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by petesimac View Post

Okay, so, I have a Sony 34XBR800, and still love my set. But as I am wont to do, I tweak everything in my life; my tv is no different. Thanks to many here, I've gotten my set to look pretty darned good! Sadly, because I'm an idiot, I don't have all the original settings. I wrote down some of them, but as I tweaked, I changed some values that weren't written down, and confused myself with bad hand-writing and incomplete entries (such as not signifying which source I was tweaking, whether it be wide-stretch 480i or p, 720p or 1080i.

Lately I've been trying to work on the geometery of my set and nearly panicked last night when something really funky happened, and I was unable to reverse the problem. Hours later, I have it as close to perfect as I can get it for now, but I would love all the original default settings (preferably of all values for all sources) just so I can revert to the original should I get really frustrated. I know it's asking a lot, but does anyone here have such a wealth of info? If not, is there someone who has an untweaked 34XBR800 who is not afraid to go into the service menu and jot down the codes... Any help?

I haven't kept very good track of the original settings on my XBR800 either. If there are specific things you need assistance with though, I can try to help with those.

As far as geometry goes, I've always found a ruler and the right kind of pattern helpful. I only fixed the geometry for 1080i on my TV though. (It definitely makes things easier when you only have one input and resolution to tweak. That's not very practical for most users though.)
post #2834 of 2959
Hi I have a similar problem with my 5 Year old Sony KD-36XS955 with black lines covering the bottom half of the picture where the top part of the picture is "prefect". The lines started 1 or 2 inches from the bottom and increased to 1/2 way after a couple of days. The stand-by light blinks twice and repeats after 5 seconds. Please help with this failure service code means... Thx!
post #2835 of 2959
back in time to my 2003 32HS500:

This unit has been serving me well, and has a 1080i screen size that is still suitable for my small viewing room...(not to mention really NICE display of good black and white DVDs of old movies)

But I don't know whether I just didn't notice it before OR the picture has widened enough that the things often displayed near the sides, like numbers on the right or a pattern on the left, don't quite make it onto the screen. Maybe this is what I've seen referred to as "overscan" that may or not be designed in.

Can anyone suggest what is likely to be going on, AND (perhaps) what I can do about it? (I have never made any adjustments to this TV other than those available on the remote through the normal menu...) And - if there is a way to make adjustments to fix this issue - please mention any pertinent cautions about trying to do it!

Thanks - Tony
post #2836 of 2959
I'm finally done with my 30hs420(gaming TV). Last night I comletely redid all of my geometry and the raster from scratch and input NextGen's text file settings(except for colour and geometry settings) and I'm floored by the picture. I've been playing around with the set for over a year, and I finally saw those settings and they work perfectly, even on my set. Good Job.
post #2837 of 2959
Hello,

I was lucky enough to find a 960 on Craiglist last week, I have been working on geometry and overscan in small doses and have made significant progress with what was already a decent canvas.

I cannot locate the correct adjustment to correct the following at the bottom right of the screen:

________________________/

There is a noticable bow upward in this location that is especially pronounced as tickers enter the screen. Can anyone tell me the name of the adjustment for this? I see the vertical counterparts but no horizontal. Thanks!
post #2838 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by timm23112 View Post

Hello,

I was lucky enough to find a 960 on Craiglist last week, I have been working on geometry and overscan in small doses and have made significant progress with what was already a decent canvas.

I cannot locate the correct adjustment to correct the following at the bottom right of the screen:

________________________/

There is a noticable bow upward in this location that is especially pronounced as tickers enter the screen. Can anyone tell me the name of the adjustment for this? I see the vertical counterparts but no horizontal. Thanks!

I had the problem .

Unfortunarely a tech trained in using magnets may be the only solution.

Keep in mind one thing, you'll never get perfect geometry on a CRT.
post #2839 of 2959
We just bought a used 960 and I'm trying to adjust the settings, particularly how dark the picture is with default settings.
I have to bring up the brightness to about 80% to have a reasonable level, and even then it's hard to distinguish details in dark scenes.

Current settings are: standard, neutral, monitor, with picture at 56 and brightness at 48.

I'm a total noob to going deeply into the settings and so far have only tried going into the settings to see if I can, and dialing through a million options without changing anything.
I haven't been able to find the 2170p 4 group at this point, but am a little overwhelmed by the amount of settings available.

Any advice where to find this group in the grand scheme of things?
post #2840 of 2959
sony kv-hs34m61 default settings?
please help me
post #2841 of 2959
Can someone help me? After I moved my subwoofer too close to my Sony 32hv500 tv my picture is slanting to the side. Even after I have tilt correction at plus 7 max the entire picture is still slanting to the side. Is there a service menu setting that allows for additional tilt correction? If so what is the setting called? how do I get into service menu? I thought it was something like = display 5 vol mute enter but I don't seem to be inputting it right.
post #2842 of 2959
Search your users manual, find out how to degauss. Your big subwoofer magnet has distorted the magnetic field of your picture tube and its little magnets (sorry not the exact technical description) beyond the normal range of adjustment. To degauss it may be as simple as unplugging the set then plugging back in. Or turning the set off and on a few times. Or maybe you have a specific menu item. Good luck.
post #2843 of 2959
I'm very happy with the screen parameters in Normal screen size mode, but I would like to back off the Zoom. When I watch "postage-stamped" material, the edges are cut off too much. Can I set the Zoom to be less without affecting Normal mode?
post #2844 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg du jour View Post

I'm very happy with the screen parameters in Normal screen size mode, but I would like to back off the Zoom. When I watch "postage-stamped" material, the edges are cut off too much. Can I set the Zoom to be less without affecting Normal mode?

I believe 2170D-1, ASPT is what you're looking for. Enter the service menu while already in ZOOM screen mode. As always, be very careful navigating, write down the initial settings and don't attempt ANY type of reset.
post #2845 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by raouliii View Post

I believe 2170D-1, ASPT is what you're looking for. Enter the service menu while already in ZOOM screen mode. As always, be very careful navigating, write down the initial settings and don't attempt ANY type of reset.

Will do, thanks.

Although I notice that the default is 0, the range is 0-63, and I have not changed any settings. Does this mean I can only zoom in more?
post #2846 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg du jour View Post

Will do, thanks.

Although I notice that the default is 0, the range is 0-63, and I have not changed any settings. Does this mean I can only zoom in more?

Where did you learn what the default was for ASPT? Which model Sony do you have?
post #2847 of 2959
My model is KD-30XS955. I read the default in the Service Codes List.pdf attached at the top of this thread, although I notice the model for that is 34XBR910. Thought it might be the same across the XBR/XS lines.
post #2848 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg du jour View Post

My model is KD-30XS955. I read the default in the Service Codes List.pdf attached at the top of this thread, although I notice the model for that is 34XBR910. Thought it might be the same across the XBR/XS lines.

That document is VERY misleading and misrepresents the structure of the service data lists. Many service data parameters are global, in particular geometry, convergence and color decoder, but many more can be dependent on input resolution, screen mode, picture mode, etc.

There are actually 7 different default values for ASPT, depending on the screen mode and input format. The default value for ASPT in ZOOM screen mode for your set is 43.

I would recommend that only the service data list found in an actual service manual be used by anyone navigating the service menu.
post #2849 of 2959
I dipped my toe. FWIW, my ASPT was set to 47. I experimented with that setting and its neighbors, but it seemed these only adjusted the vertical size of the picture. Do I need to do an overall size adjustment to get the horizontal width I desire in Zoom?
post #2850 of 2959
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg du jour View Post

I dipped my toe. FWIW, my ASPT was set to 47. I experimented with that setting and its neighbors, but it seemed these only adjusted the vertical size of the picture. Do I need to do an overall size adjustment to get the horizontal width I desire in Zoom?

ZOOM, by definition, zooms the 4:3 content linearly so that the horizontal width equals the width of the screen. Therefore, the only adjustability would be the vertical size, which will affect the linearity of the picture.

Maybe we should back up a little. When you stated "When I watch "postage-stamped" material, the edges are cut off too much" in your earlier post, what content are you talking about? Which edges? Top/Bottom or Sides?

FWIW, I watch 4:3 content in WIDEZOOM screen mode and have no complaints.
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