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post #61 of 97
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Originally Posted by CptnRandy
My contractor took 8 months (theater and basement project).

Of course, he also won a million dollars right after he started my project, so his motivation was somewhat reduced!

Randy
I won't be to far off that time frame the way things are shaping up.
Mine started in February and after my builder basically quit showing up, I was left to fend for my self. :(
I am no DIY guy, so it is taking me much longer than I originally planned to get it right.
I am adding furring strips to my columns right now so I am getting closer.

Craig
post #62 of 97
Thread Starter 
Already watched a couple of movies. Very cool! The Denon 5805 and Klipsch THX Ultra2 system sounds great. I have two subs but only one of them is hooked up now and no buttkickers. Even so, the low-frequency ability is awesome. The Sony also shows a great picture and low lumens with the Screen Research screen is not a problem for this fully light-control room.

I updated the pictures. Thanks!

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/af3c
post #63 of 97
Lawrence,

I was wondering why in a fully light controlled room you purchased the Screen Research black backing. Do you have a light source behind the screen?

My second question is about your columns. Do they have any acoustical purpose, or are they only to hold the speakers and provide a nice aesthetic character to the room?

Thanks!
post #64 of 97
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater
Lawrence,

I was wondering why in a fully light controlled room you purchased the Screen Research black backing. Do you have a light source behind the screen?

My second question is about your columns. Do they have any acoustical purpose, or are they only to hold the speakers and provide a nice aesthetic character to the room?

Thanks!
Looking at the collumns, yes they can do a number of things.

1. Check the pictures, looks like the electrical outlets will be on them. That's fewer big holes in the wall for sound to get out.

2. They break up room nodes, irregular surfaces and the like.

3. You can tune them to be certain bass frequency absorbers. (That ol' peg board holes filled up technique)

4. They look cool. ^_^
post #65 of 97
Thread Starter 
To: SimpleTheater
I bought the black backing for the SR screen primarily because it improves the contrast ratio of the picture. The second reason is to hide the center channel speaker behind the screen. I do not have any light behind the screen.

The columns are primarily to hide the rear channel speakers. Another reason is to use them to hold electrical boxes which means that I don't have to cut holes in my drywall (5/8" + 1/2" with green glue). I don't use them for acoustic treatment but people tell me it's possible...maybe I'll do that later. They also break up the monotony of a flat wall.
post #66 of 97
Thread Starter 
Today, the builder installed crown molding for the rope light. Please see the attached pictures.
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post #67 of 97
Hey Lawrence - forgive me, I didn't read the entire thread, but was there a reason you went without a soffit in your design?

Just wondering...
post #68 of 97
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Originally Posted by Lawrence_Chiu
Picture #2 shows the 1/4" gap between the floor and the drywall. In my room, we have 1/4" gaps between the ceiling and walls, between adjacent walls, and between the walls and floor. Picture #3 shows the gap after being filled with acoustic caulk.
Hello Lawrence,

Great HT. I wish my ceiling is as high as yours and as big as yours.

I do have some questions. I know that you want to leave 1/4" gap between floor and drywall and ceiling and walls so that the walls are free to move. After filling the gaps with acoustic caulk, will it look "ugly" after you finish? What do you do in this case? I'm assuming for the drywall that meets the floor you'll get someone to install base board to cover up the caulk.

For the drywall that meets the ceiling, what do you do to cover up the caulk? For normal construction, it looks nice if you put crown moulding there, but would that defeat the purpose of letting the walls free to move?

I was planning on doing the same thing you're doing..leaving a small gap between floor and walls and ceiling and walls....but don't know how to make it look nice after I put acoustic caulk. Any insight from you or anyone is helpful

jbhungvt
post #69 of 97
Thread Starter 
To: ebr
After my ceiling was raised from 8 ft to 10 ft in the middle portion of the room, I do sorta have the "soffit" look, although the sides of the soffits are angled 45 degrees to follow the pitch of the roof. Everyone who has seen it have said that they very much prefer the angled design.

To: jbhungvt
The caulked gap at the floor will not be visible after pad + carpet which is much thicker than 1/4".
The caulked gap at the ceiling can be hidden by crown molding. If you are doing GOM fabric, you have to use crown molding to hide the staples anyway. Since the molding is nailed only to the wall and not the ceiling, there is no coupling. Even if the finish nails go through the ceiling, those 18 gauge nails can't couple anything since they are so small.
post #70 of 97
Thread Starter 
Two days after the crown molding, we have accomplished the following:

- Started acoustic treatment. Design follows the basic principles outlined in this forum. Basically, absorption at the front wall and side walls up to the front of the stage (floor to ceiling); absorption at side walls and rear walls bottom half. I used Insulshield Black ($360 for 100 feet). I purchased a single roll for the room which was sufficient. The upper half uses 10 oz. polyester batting from Jo-Anns. Since Insulshield is 48" wide, the side and rear treatments are 4 feet floor up and they following the bump-up with the riser. This stuff cuts easily with a box cutter, but the polyester needs scissors. I got the Insulshield Black from Home Depot special order desk. The "Black" refers to a black coating which supposedly absorbs light. So when I installed it, the black side faced out and fiberglass in. Attachment for fiberglass and batting was roof cap nails (1-3/4" nails with an plastic orange cap). Hammered lightly to pucker the fiberglass and batting slightly, they are not smashed against the wall.

- The chairs are now set up in their proper place in the first row.

- Furring strips are ripped from 40 pieces of 2x4 lumber. A 45 degree beveled is added for a high-tech look. Each furring strip is 1" x 1.5" x LENGTH. It has to be 1" thick because the insulshield and batting is 1" thick.

- Because the sconces are mounted 1" off the wall due to the acoustic treatment, blocking was added for them. You can tell from the pictures that my sconces are triangular. They look like torches. Blocking is cut from 1" MDF, basically leftover from building the columns which was perfect solution! You will see blocking on the rear wall for the rear Klipsch KL-650-THX to be installed later. As the pictures show, these will not be in the columns, but between the two rear columns on a shelf.

- Hung the projector. Used Chief RPA mount which allows 3 degrees of adjustments. Turns out that with lens shift, the adjustability is not necessary, but the mount is very well made. well worth the $200.

- Assembled Middle Atlantic rack. I bought all of these components from avscope on yahoo shopping at a great price. I saw cheaper competitors on Froogle but those other companies charge mucho dinero for shipping. avscope does not charge shipping. The rack was a Slim-5 with 5 shelves and locking casters and their power strip and it costs about $800. Not cheap but I think it's worth it.

- Installed floor in equipment closet. It's a vinyl sheet which looks like little stones. There's a pic for this in the same pic as the rack.

- No more movies. The equipment needs to be mounted in the rack next. Boo-hoo!

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/db28
post #71 of 97
Lawrence_Chiu, I love the carpet in your room. Really gives your theater the feel of a cinima. :)

Craig
post #72 of 97
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Originally Posted by Lawrence_Chiu
The columns are primarily to hide the rear channel speakers. Another reason is to use them to hold electrical boxes which means that I don't have to cut holes in my drywall (5/8" + 1/2" with green glue).
Where then does power come in to go to the columns? From above or under the drywall? Can't see where it enters from your photos.
post #73 of 97
Thread Starter 
To: Jim Noyd
Post #35 in this thread has a close-up picture.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post5692284

To: suffolk112000
Thanks! It's a commercial carpet so it is very easy to clean also and not too much plush. One thing is for sure, it hides a lot of trash if I decide to have a party!
post #74 of 97
Thread Starter 
I uploaded close-up pictures of the carpet, all six columns, and the crown molding.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/5218
post #75 of 97
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Originally Posted by Lawrence_Chiu
I uploaded close-up pictures of the carpet, all six columns, and the crown molding.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/5218
great so each column has an outlet with the electrical coming thru the drywall/green glue/dry all/insulsheild black with acoustic chaulk?
post #76 of 97
Thread Starter 
To: Jim Noyd
Yes, that is correct.
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Latest update: Fabric installation is complete. Used Guilford of Maine (GOM) Deep Burgandy FR701 fabric for the room, and Black FR701 fabric for stage and screen wall.

Denon 5805 can be seen in the picture of the rack. This receiver weigh 90 lbs.

In the equipment room, you will also see a cable-pulling station which is used to pull cables to the theater.

In the last picture, you see the conduit panel (Four 2" holes) in the equipment room which leads to different locations in the theater.

We just have one more item on the To-Do list which is "Electrical - Final trimout". This will be done in a few days. After that, Movie Heaven!!

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/d9ad
post #77 of 97
When are you going to finish the darn thing so the Houston Home Theater Group can come for the grand opening?
post #78 of 97
Thread Starter 
Week 14 is over and the theater is done. Start to finish in about 3 months. Thanks for reading!

- 7 sconces installed
- 6 outlets installed in columns
- smoke detectors (1 in room, 1 in closet)
- florescent in closet
- 3 outlets behind screen wall (including 1 on ceiling for motorized curtains)
- floor outlet in riser
- rope light in ceiling tray
- Grafik Eye for lights and Spacer just for step lights.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lawren...bum?.dir=/9225

If you are in Houston, watch this space for a meet announcement soon.
post #79 of 97
Looks Nice! Congratulations and Enjoy!
post #80 of 97
Man... that is awesome!! I am jealous.

Craig
post #81 of 97
Congratulations again Lawrence- I am good for popcorn and drinks anytime....
post #82 of 97
Thread Starter 
The date of the meet is set Sat Aug 13 2005. I look forward to seeing everyone again. Would also appreciate help from anyone who are photo-buffs who can help me take some decent pictures of this room. I have a standard digital camera but even zooming out all the way, I can't get a good picture. And the framing behind the GOM shows up too.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=565818
post #83 of 97
Congratulations - looks great!

Randy
post #84 of 97
Looks awesome!!! And the total cost is.......

I gotta know!!!!
post #85 of 97
Is there a reason I cannot view these Yahoo pictures in their native resolutions? I noticed some of the most recent pictures are 1600x1200, but what I get to see is much, much smaller.
post #86 of 97
Thread Starter 
To: garykagan
Everything will be revealed at the meet Saturday! Hope you can make it.

To: TheFerret
I don't think Yahoo ever shows the pictures at native resolutions. I couldn't get it to work anyway.

To: All
After 4 weeks of using the theater, we found that the equipment closet does not have adequate cooling. The closet currently has a single air supply (no return) but controlled by HVAC zone #2 thermostat in the HT. This doesn't work right because when the HT is at a comfortable 78 degrees, the air handler is off which cuts off the closet too. Meanwhile the heat keeps rising in the closet.

Temperature goes from 80 C to 94 C in the closet after a movie. Therefore, construction starts again tomorrow when HVAC contractor comes back to make the closet a 3rd HVAC zone. He will also enlarge the supply and add a return. Since this is a third zone, another damper will be needed. This is possible because my Honeywell zone controller supports maximum 3 zones. This costs extra since it was not in the original bid but the company is doing the work for free and I pay for the parts only. This results in a savings of almost 40%. Great company to deal with. The HVAC company is HousePro in Houston (housepro.net). AWESOME PEOPLE that stand behind their work! After this is done, I'll post some more pictures.

If you are in Houston, the meet is Saturday. I hope it will be a fun experience!
post #87 of 97
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Originally Posted by Lawrence_Chiu
... when the HT is at a comfortable 78 degrees...
Wow, glad I don't live in the south.....I think 68 is "comfortable" :D
post #88 of 97
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Originally Posted by Innova
Wow, glad I don't live in the south.....I think 68 is "comfortable" :D
Sometimes I wonder about those temperature gauges...

I know if I'm at my house 74 is freezing but at my brother's he needs to be running at 68 before it feels about the same.
post #89 of 97
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Originally Posted by Lawrence_Chiu
Temperature goes from 80 C to 94 C in the closet after a movie. Therefore, construction starts again tomorrow when HVAC contractor comes back to make the closet a 3rd HVAC zone. He will also enlarge the supply and add a return. Since this is a third zone, another damper will be needed. This is possible because my Honeywell zone controller supports maximum 3 zones. This costs extra since it was not in the original bid but the company is doing the work for free and I pay for the parts only. This results in a savings of almost 40%. Great company to deal with. The HVAC company is HousePro in Houston (housepro.net). AWESOME PEOPLE that stand behind their work! After this is done, I'll post some more pictures.
Why not just install an exahaust fan like you have in a bathroom. This is what I did in my equip closet and mine never goes above 82.
post #90 of 97
Lawrence,

How do you like your screen projector combo. Is it bright enough?
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