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LG LDA511 HDMI DVD player

post #1 of 522
4/26/05 at 7:15pm
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just thought I'd post.......


LG LDA511@CES-CNET
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post #2 of 522
4/26/05 at 7:45pm
The LDA-511 is targeted to be released in July. The LDX-514 DVD/VCR has just started shipping, however. MSRP on this is $229.95.

Robert
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post #3 of 522
4/27/05 at 4:26pm
Hey, is this player newer or better than the 418?

It's not even at LG's site; but it's already available at J&R. How come?
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post #4 of 522
4/27/05 at 5:00pm
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Originally posted by Julio Bro!
Hey, is this player newer or better than the 418?

It's not even at LG's site; but it's already available at J&R. How come?


not a surprise ......

sometimes these manufacturers forget they're actually releasing a new product and don't display it on their site......just kidding

honestly, I don't know why there's such a lag in time when new products hit the shelves but not the web site......

some are good about it some not.....

Toshiba doesn't even acknowledge the TDP-MT700 on their site except it's press release....

but the LG should be released sometime this summer even though some sites state they have them...i.e. pre-order
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post #5 of 522
4/27/05 at 5:21pm
OK, but is this an improvement over the 418?
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post #6 of 522
4/27/05 at 5:54pm
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should be.....

but you never know,

manufacturers rarely go backwards with product designs...

they either start over from scratch (which they can screw up) or improve the build of the original (more likely) YMMV.
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post #7 of 522
4/29/05 at 5:54am
So, I suppose there's no review yet.
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post #8 of 522
5/23/05 at 5:25am
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welt......

it's available now......


Product Features

Plays DVD, DVD-Audio, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW, VCD, SVCD, CD, CD-R/RW, MP3, WMA, JPEG, DivX and MPEG-4 formats


7-in-2 media reader supports Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card, CompactFlash and Microdrive


3D virtual surround sound and Dolby Digital 2-channel down-mixing


HDMI output provides an uncompressed all-digital audio/video link for the highest-quality connection and supports copy-protected HD broadcast content


27MHz/10-bit video digital-to-analog (D/A) conversion; 96kHz/24-bit audio digital-to-analog (D/A) conversion


Music Photo Album allows you to view slide-shows of your digital photo discs with MP3/WMA music in the background


Zoom, marker search, closed caption, resume, auto play, search, slow and step skip forward and reverse


Convenient playback features include screen fit, smooth scan, slow motion, random play, A-B repeat play, program play, bookmark search and subtitle still; MP3 ID-3 tag support


Outputs: 1 optical digital audio, 1 coaxial digital audio, 1 composite video, 1 S-video, 1 component video, 1 stereo audio, 1 HDMI


Parental controls keep children from being exposed to undesirable material


Trilingual on-screen display allows you to choose from English, Portuguese and Spanish


Multibrand remote included

Product Details

Warranty Terms - Parts 1 year limited
Warranty Terms - Labour 90 days limited
Product Height 1-1/2"
Product Width 17"
Product Weight 4.4 lbs.
Product Length 9-1/2"
Disc Capacity 1
Playback Formats DVD, DVD-Audio, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, VCD, SVCD, CD, CD-R/RW, MP3, WMA, JPEG, DivX, MPEG-4
Flash Media 7-in-2 media reader
Progressive Scan Yes
Simulated Surround Yes
Optical Digital Audio Outputs 1
Coaxial Digital Audio Outputs 1
Composite Video Outputs 1
S-Video Outputs 1
Component Video Outputs 1
HDMI Outputs 1
Stereo Audio Outputs 1
Zoom Feature Yes
Remote Control Type Multibrand
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post #9 of 522
5/23/05 at 5:42am
Cool.

Where is it available man, where is the review? Any tests?
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post #10 of 522
5/23/05 at 4:06pm
DVD-Audio but no analog surround out, looks like it will only output DVD-Audio via HDMI without downconverting?

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Originally Posted by Vashon Donique View Post

Product Features

Plays DVD, DVD-Audio, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW, VCD, SVCD, CD, CD-R/RW, MP3, WMA, JPEG, DivX and MPEG-4 formats
Outputs: 1 optical digital audio, 1 coaxial digital audio, 1 composite video, 1 S-video, 1 component video, 1 stereo audio, 1 HDMI
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post #11 of 522
5/23/05 at 7:27pm
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DVD-Audio but no analog surround out, looks like it will only output DVD-Audio via HDMI without downconverting?

DVD-Audio is the format to read, the output will be from the optical and coaxial ports. Your receiver must be able to work with the higher bit rate and bandwidth, it'll be fine.
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post #12 of 522
5/27/05 at 9:25am
I would like to correct myself on the DVD-A answer, cause I didn't know the standard makes the player decode the signal and send it through the analog outputs. I honestly believed the work was in the receiver, as most other stuff.

That cleared, I think Starc is right, if the unit doesn't have the 6.1 or 5.1 outputs, then it probably travels through the HDMI...we'll know for sure when the manual is available.
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post #13 of 522
6/9/05 at 6:17pm
Has anyone heard of a more firm release date than "4th Qtr" or July? I'm itching to try this one out and return my LGDVB418.
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post #14 of 522
6/10/05 at 8:53am
There is another

Model : LDA-531
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post #15 of 522
6/10/05 at 12:06pm
I want to check out the LDA511, but LG still hasn't notified me about the firmware update to fix the audio sync issue on the 418 (LG gave me a case # for this issue). I'm not saying that the LDA511 is going to have an audio sync issue, but it would have put me more at ease to know that LG was able to fix the audio sync issue on the 418 prior to the 511's release.
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post #16 of 522
6/10/05 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

There is another

Model : LDA-531

I read about this one, but in a very old electronic news, I think it didn't make it and changed to 511.

Alright, this is one place it's in stock:

http://www.onlybestrated.com/lda531-...9a52b84383cc3d


But I don't know, something is not right....maybe it's an old model or a test release. It doesn't have much hits in the search. I noticed that apparently is the Divx/Region Free version of the 418. The description doesn't talk about being able to play double layer DVDs.

It appears at LG Canada site, so maybe it's the Canadian version.
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post #17 of 522
6/10/05 at 3:26pm
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no need for alot of searching for this one.....


LG 511 @ BestBuy
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post #18 of 522
6/11/05 at 7:23am
I think it's not available on-line yet, and my parents looked for it in a Best Buy in Orlando and they didn't have it either. I guess we'll have to wait a bit more.
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post #19 of 522
7/9/05 at 8:46am
Just a note, the 531 is available, at least in canada, for 200 can $. Adds upconversion to the 511 specs, plus rumors of upconversion over component...sweet...
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post #20 of 522
7/9/05 at 9:58am
The 531 is the same as the 511, just the Canada model. The B&H site indicates it will be available on August...I hope so.
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post #21 of 522
7/13/05 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by Julio Bro! View Post

The 531 is the same as the 511, just the Canada model. The B&H site indicates it will be available on August...I hope so.

No it's not the same, the 531 has better specs.
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post #22 of 522
7/14/05 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by zeta_msz_006 View Post

No it's not the same, the 531 has better specs.

Which are these better specs?
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post #23 of 522
7/14/05 at 8:37pm
I bought and brought back my 3rd 418 yesterday.The last one I hoped would have its issues resolved with a "May 2005" build date. It didn't. Of major concern to me was no audio over HDMI cable. And just as important not being able to upconvert copy-protected discs. On LG's website I found the PDF's of both 418 & 511 manuals.
I've attached 2 jpg's of the "notes" section of page 10 of each units manual. Seems the 511 has become HDCP compliant....any thoughts?

Zag
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post #24 of 522
7/15/05 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted by Julio Bro! View Post

Which are these better specs?

The video DAC for the 511 is 27 MHZ/10 Bit, whereas the 531 is 54 MHZ/12 Bit.

Here is the link to the 531 specs.
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post #25 of 522
7/15/05 at 8:43am
The 531 doesn't upconvert disc protected media. Check the PDF. manual> page 10.
See my earlier post of jpg on 418 manual. Same exact text. if the 531 is like the 418, don't even bother.

Zag
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post #26 of 522
7/15/05 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by zeta_msz_006 View Post

The video DAC for the 511 is 27 MHZ/10 Bit, whereas the 531 is 54 MHZ/12 Bit...

Hmmm, that's interesting, but checking some details might answer or add to the mystery. Besides the fact this is a Canada only model, the 531 has been out for a while, I think maybe it was also used as a test bed for some of the new LG tech and concluded some stuff was not really needed. Like, a 10 bit chip is gonna be cheaper than a 12 bit one, and if the results are the same (or near same) then why not get the cheaper one.

Another theory maybe that the converter circuit in the 511 overall does some of the job of the 12 bit DAC and compensates in performance and quality; being a newer model this is probably true.

I know faster is better and probably would bring better quality, but money is a powerful dissuasive. I think it's a good question for LG though.

In the meantime, apparently you can get the new LDA-511 here:

http://www.fotoconnection.com/vi-129...VD-LDA511.html

I'm not buying it for over $200, but maybe some of you might like one right now. If you're of the lucky ones, let us know about it's performance and features.
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post #27 of 522
7/15/05 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by Zagman View Post

The 531 doesn't upconvert disc protected media. Check the PDF. manual> page 10.
See my earlier post of jpg on 418 manual. Same exact text. if the 531 is like the 418, don't even bother.

Zag

That only applies to the component output, (analog output but it will still upconvert non copyrighted media) the HDMI output (digital and HDCP compliant) will upcovert all media regardless of copyright protection.
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post #28 of 522
7/15/05 at 10:34am
None of the LG players I bought would upconvert using HDMI. Hence Non-HDCP compliant. I've only tried the 418.These LG players (418,511/531) are in my price range. If the 418 worked like LG stated I wouldn't have had to return the first one never mind three. I really want the 511 to work like it is advertised. Here is a review I found on CNET of the 418 to prove my point about HDCP compliancy. The reviewer is not me BTW.

Zag
CNET review
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post #29 of 522
7/15/05 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Zagman View Post

None of the LG players I bought would upconvert using HDMI. Hence Non-HDCP compliant. I've only tried the 418.These LG players (418,511/531) are in my price range. If the 418 worked like LG stated I wouldn't have had to return the first one never mind three. I really want the 511 to work like it is advertised. Here is a review I found on CNET of the 418 to prove my point about HDCP compliancy. The reviewer is not me BTW.

Zag
CNET review

Just wondering what make was your display?? could it be it's a compatability issue between your display and the player?? Because between my friend and I, we've tried all the LG upconvert player (other than the 511) on both his Pannasonic CRT and my JVC plasma, (DVI and HDMI players) they all worked fine no problems.
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post #30 of 522
7/17/05 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by Zagman View Post

None of the LG players I bought would upconvert using HDMI. Hence Non-HDCP compliant. I've only tried the 418.These LG players (418,511/531) are in my price range. If the 418 worked like LG stated I wouldn't have had to return the first one never mind three. I really want the 511 to work like it is advertised. Here is a review I found on CNET of the 418 to prove my point about HDCP compliancy. The reviewer is not me BTW.

Zag

I recently purchased the DVB418 along with the 62SX4D (LG 62" DLP) and I have the dvd player set on 720p output (the TV is 720p) and it works just fine over HDMI. I do get a lipsync problem but so far I have just told my yamaha receiver that the center channel is only 2ft from me (it lets me set all the speaker distances as well as level) and that fixes it most of the time. Sometimes near the end of a DVD, I will notice the lipsync thing again. I will email LG about that right now actually. Aside from this issue, I absolutely love this DVD player. Especially the mostly unknown feature that remembers where you left off on a disk even after turning the unit off and removing the disk. It remembers the last five disks I believe.

I also have recieved a response from LG about the differences between the 418 and 511, I'll paste the reply here:

Thank you for inquiring of LG Electronics.

The DVB-418 and LDA-511 are basically the same model, however, the
DVB-418 is just a higher-end unit. The main difference between these two
units is that the LDA-511 is slimmer and uses a vacuum load feature
instead of a DVD tray like most DVD players.

I am unaware as to why the information for this unit is not on the
website. I will pass this information along to the website administrator
so that this information can hopefully be added to our website.

Please feel free to contact us in the future if you have any additional
questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics.

Marlon
E-mail Administrator
Customer Interactive Center
LGEAI
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