|Originally posted by Steve Schauer
I tried some on topic posts but they never went anywhere. :(
I believe very strongly in intellectual property rights. It's the money machine that has totally transformed the world. OK, granted Bill Gates ended up with 90% of it all but still it's true. I think what CleanFlix is doing is wrong not because they're mucking with the artistic integrity of somebody's movies, but because only the copyright holders have the right to muck with their movies. If you don't like parts of Sin City make your own damn movie. Don't try to start a business leaching off of someone else's work.
In theory I donâ€™t disagree with you. With the exception of just a few, we purchase all our DVDâ€™s and music. I have pulled some very few songs off the internet at times, but have always gone out and purchased the artistâ€™s CDâ€™s with the above in mind. But if I purchase a CD, and want to use certain tracks for a slide show or for a movie I am editing, I am justified in doing so, if it is for home use, which it is. Same goes for a DVD that I have purchasedâ€¦ if I want to go into it, pull certain portions out of it, re-encode, and burn a new copy, etc., I can do that as well.
IMO, the whole thing hangs on whether each movie is purchased each time it is edited. If some guy made a one-time purchase, then edited the movie, and sold multiple copies, then Iâ€™d be furious! But in this case, I think it boils down to a fair use editing charge. I donâ€™t see what would be unethical about this, so long as the original DVD is purchased each time it is edited. Thereâ€™s no piracy here that I can see.
I do agree with you that it is a form of leachingâ€¦ thereâ€™s no getting around that one. And as I said, I wouldnâ€™t be interested in anything but the original, but this is so very interesting nevertheless! I view this as being no different than water seeking its own level. Also, from what I understand, the process is one of cutting certain portions of the filmâ€™s content, like jumping past some scenes, or cutting out some of the gory stuffâ€¦ same as closing ones eyes, I guess, or muting the audio (only with a heads up).
If I am shelling out the $$$ for the original film, and all those who have participated in that film, are paid in the exact same way theyâ€™d be paid under normal circumstances, then I do not see what would be wrong with personal-use alteration of that content. Piracy has been the biggest gripe from both the movie and the music industry, but if they are getting paid (even more now), I canâ€™t see that there is really much to complain about. But I could be wrongâ€¦ Iâ€™m not a lawyer and thinking this through on principle only.
Off to workâ€¦ J