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post #211 of 982
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Originally Posted by Mike Boulanger View Post

With this version, I've had to exit and restart CAV twice in the past few days because my keypads stopped responding.

Anyone else having any issues?

Thanks!

I am. I have to routinely restart now. At least 3-4 times weekly.
post #212 of 982
Hi hyslopc

I went through all your posts and replies dated back to 2004 and I can't find any reference on one particular music source: web radio broadcasts. The Russound SMS box supports this feature. I'm planning to purchase CAM 6.6 in the near future with UNO-S2 keypads for living rooms. I'm very curious if I can get luck with your SW (of course if you could kindly share it with me) on CAM 6.6 and MC11.

Will I be able to somehow choose stored URLs to web radio sites and source the stream or muliple streams? Have you thought of this feature.

greatly appreciate your work
post #213 of 982
Thread Starter 
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Is it possible to manipulate the display?

I guess - I've never tested one of those keypads, but since it has a display and is documented as supporting the same protocol as the CAV66's keypads, I would assume it works.
post #214 of 982
Thread Starter 
Regarding stability, I'm not seeing any issues here, and I use it all the time. Can you see any pattern with the instability, or are you getting cav66.dmp files created when it stops running? If so, please PM me about it.

Regarding web radio, we just had a discussion here about it last week, and I've started listening to a bit of web radio myself. MC11.1 seems to support web radio stations pretty well now.
post #215 of 982
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Regarding stability,

I haven't narrowed it down much yet, but it has been working well the past few days.

Here is one issue that doesn't make sense to me, but maybe it will make sense to you:

I purchased a Russound IR remote control. Everything works 100% on the keypad - I can change sources, change tracks, change playlists and it's 100%. With the remote, I can change tracks and everything is great. If I change sources, however, usually the track info stops displaying on the keypad. If I walk up to the keypad and change sources again or hit next track, the track information starts flowing through. Isn't that an odd one?? The remote does have discrete source selection (rather than a single button that cycles through the sources). Not sure if that would make a difference...
post #216 of 982
Thread Starter 
Ah - that *does* make sense. We are probably getting a different type of message from the remote than we get from the keypad. I will try and reproduce this here.
post #217 of 982
OK.... I haven't used my remote at all since the last crash. I went upstairs and turned on one of my keypads and there was no track information at all. Trying to skip to the next track did nothing - it stayed on the same song. I was able to change sources however.

I went downstairs to a zone that was already on and it's showing a track that played previously on the keypad. It's not scrolling at all, it's just showing the first part of the track name.

CAV6.6 seems to be running, but the track information displayed on the PC is outdated. There is no DMP file.

I closed CAV6.6 and re-ran it. I left Media Center running. It is now showing the correct track info and it seems fine (for now).

Is there anything else I should check next time it happens?

Thanks!
post #218 of 982
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Mike. What is the last version that has been working reliably for you? I can then look at the differences between the two versions and try and work out what is causing the problem.
post #219 of 982
I'm a relatively new user, so I've only used 2 versions - this one that you modified for me to allow longer track names, and the version before it.

I didn't have any problems with the version before it, but I did only run it for a short time.

Do you still have that last version available? If so, I can install it and see if it helps me.
post #220 of 982
Thread Starter 
Previous version is still available: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7295819. Give it a test and let me know the result - thanks.
post #221 of 982
Thread Starter 
I wanted to reproduce the problem with changing sources via the remote, so I went around the house looking for the remote, and found my 1yo son playing with it. I then tried to use it, but although the red LED on the remote flashes, and the keypad even blinks to show it is receiving IR data, nothing happens. When I press the "Input" buttons on the remote, nothing happens at all.

Could my baby son have pressed some combination of keys on the remote that puts it into some sort of strange mode?
post #222 of 982
I grabbed the previous version and am giving it a try. I'll let you know how I make out.

Regarding the remote, here's a VERY weird one that I encountered.

Everything was working great with my system, but I freed up some space in my server rack so I figured I'd move my CAV66 into it. I had to make some longer patch cables to connect between my patch panel and my CAV66, which I did. I plugged all the patch cables in and plugged the CAV6.6 into the SURGE ONLY side of my battery backup. It was previously plugged into a plain old surge strip. I figured the CAV6.6 would draw too much for the battery side of the battery backup, but thought the surge only side would be fine.

Powered everything up, and it worked great. That is, until I tried the remote - no response at all, same as you. I pulled the batteries from the remote for 2 hours, triple-checked all my patch cables, power cycled the CAV6.6 a dozen times - same problem.

I was trying to think of what else had changed, and the only other thing that came into my mind was the UPS. So, I pulled the plug and moved the CAV6.6 to a basic surge strip instead - and the remote started working fine.

Don't ask me how or why, but I haven't looked back since.

Hope that helps!
post #223 of 982
A slight change of topic....

I have a CAV66 and have been annoyed with a hum that constantly comes from it. It is only noticable with a quiet room, ear very close to the speaker, or -very- noticable with headphones.

I finally isolated the amp to having no inputs, one keypad and one speaker on a very short cable to a speaker near the CAV. The hum still remained, I even went as far as to isolate the ground, thinking it was the result of a ground loop, but still the hum remains. I have another issue which is the video sometimes 'breaks up' like it is losing sync for 10 seconds and then comes back to normal. It will cycle like this for a while (15min - 1 hour), which is very annoying. The video issue is very hard to reproduce, it just happens randomly, although I did manage to capture the behaviour with my camera. I have had many theories why this is happening from a cheap DIVX DVD player to an outside camera to the CAV66/MC11 software/media server.

I have ruled -all- these out, my next step is to take it completely out of my house and try it at another location (brothers house). If the problem (hum) still exists, it is warranty time I think.

Can I please ask the other CAV66 owners to try an see if you hear the hum I am talking about. To hear it just select a source like DVD and press pause, then get up to speaker and listen closely for the hum. It is unaffected by the actual volume setting on the keypad, i.e. the keypad could say '0' and the hum remains at the same level. If you have a headphone hookup, it will be very obvious.

I would be very interested in what you report

thanks

Al

Carl - sorry for not replying to your email, this issue has been taking up a lot of my time troubleshooting. I will test again when things are stable - right now I only have a bare minimum installed on the CAV
post #224 of 982
Thread Starter 
I have the hum, too.
post #225 of 982
I also have the hum - But it only appears to be in one of my rooms - thinking it is speaker wiring close to electrical. - But my cav66 is just over 2yrs old.
post #226 of 982
My remote also is unresponsive at times - thinking there could be electrical interference on the cat5 drops to the controllers - or ambient/background lighting fouling up the ir transmission from the remote...thoughts???
post #227 of 982
Thread Starter 
I tend to agree with NDeangelis - the only room where I have noticed hum is the room which has a lot of electrical wiring running through the ceiling. I told the electrician to keep the cables as far apart as possible, but you know how that goes - they're probably running right next to each other.
post #228 of 982
I'm not noticing any hum in any rooms, but definitely worked hard on keeping the speaker wire far from the electrical. If I remember correctly, I also used shielded speaker wire.
post #229 of 982
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post #230 of 982
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Originally Posted by Mike Boulanger View Post

I'm not noticing any hum in any rooms, but definitely worked hard on keeping the speaker wire far from the electrical. If I remember correctly, I also used shielded speaker wire.

The hum I am getting is present in all channels and also without -any- inputs and only one keypad/speaker hooked up directly behind the CAV.

Al
post #231 of 982
You said you isolated the ground - how did you do that?
post #232 of 982
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post #233 of 982
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Originally Posted by Mike Boulanger View Post

You said you isolated the ground - how did you do that?

In order to isolate the ground you can use a cheater plug, these are the adapter you use to plug a 3 prong cord into a 2 prong outlet. But in order to truely isolate the grounds in your AV system you must disconnect all the interconnects. It is very possible that the hum is a ground loop hum and is caused by your AV system referencing multiple grounding points. Usually this is the result a wacky ground reference on your cable or satellite feed. This is very common and the only way to fix is to get an inline isolation transformer for you coax line.
post #234 of 982
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Originally Posted by mrtybalt View Post

In order to isolate the ground you can use a cheater plug, these are the adapter you use to plug a 3 prong cord into a 2 prong outlet. But in order to truely isolate the grounds in your AV system you must disconnect all the interconnects. It is very possible that the hum is a ground loop hum and is caused by your AV system referencing multiple grounding points. Usually this is the result a wacky ground reference on your cable or satellite feed. This is very common and the only way to fix is to get an inline isolation transformer for you coax line.

Yeah I use a ground lifter (cheater) plug - not recommended for anything but a test as it eliminates the ground to the device. My hum remains in this test - interesting that there is one person -not- hearing the hum.

I had the video go nuts (lose sync) again today, it is once or twice a minute for about 5 seconds each time for about 25 minutes. I am going to pair down to just the two TiVos and see what happens. Right now I have the 2 Tivo's, a VCR and 2 dvd players. Normally I would also have a camera/CD combo and the MC11 on both audio and video (Which is -awesome-).

Thanks for the feedback so far

al
post #235 of 982
Hi.
I have downloaded version 1.32, but have not installed it yet. I have several questions.

First, the documentation makes reference to COM1 and COM2. Does the s/w support COM3 through COM8?

Second, I have three CAV6.6's (18 zones plus 2 ABUS sub-zones). Will the s/w support multiple units, and if so, what needs to be configured in the s/w? The documentation makes no reference to multiple CAV's.

Third, the documentation makes reference to being able to stream multiple independent sources using plural sound cards or a special multi-outpout soundcard, but does not tell which soundcard to use or how to configure it. What needs to be done for three seperate streams?

Fourth, is there any possibility of supporting a Sirrus or XM tuner connected to the computer, such as, for example, the XMPCR ox XM Direct (for XM) or SiriusConnect (for Sirius), or even an ordinary FM computer tuner card (instead of having to use the Russound ST2X (for XM), ST2S (for Sirius) or ST2 (for FM) tuner? A computer FM tuner card is only a few dollars, and the XM and Sirius solutions are available from Timetrax for about $100.

Thanks
Steve
post #236 of 982
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Third, the documentation makes reference to being able to stream multiple independent sources using plural sound cards or a special multi-outpout soundcard, but does not tell which soundcard to use or how to configure it. What needs to be done for three seperate streams?

That is a function of the J. River Media Center software that CAV66 interfaces with. If you look in the documentation for that software, it's fairly easy to setup multiple zones. I currently run 4 sound cards in my PC.
post #237 of 982
Thread Starter 
steve - I recommend taking a couple of minutes to read this thread from start to finish. You will get the answer to all of your questions and many others. Feel free to post again if you still have some questions after reading the whole thread.
post #238 of 982
Hyslopc,

I read the whole thread several times. Question 1 is anwered; it appears you can use COM1 through COM9 (you recommend not going higher than COM9).

No real anwer to question 2. One poster indicates that he can get it to work with 2 controller IF Autostop is set to No. If it is set to Yes, the zones on the second controller stop playing after 1 to 2 seconds. Thus, it seems to me that the s/w is not presently designed for multiple CAV6.6 units. Is this correct?

Will have to check JRiver's forum regarding multiple streaming.

No answer in the thread regarding using a FM tuner card in the computer, or an XM or Sirius tuner that is connected to a computer. So, is there any possibility of supporting a Sirrus or XM tuner plus an FM tuner connected to the computer?

Thanks
Steve
post #239 of 982
Steve,

If I may chime in.. I use a decent home theatre PC and a CAV 6.6 with all 6 zones active and 4 sound cards.. rather than use XM, i just use shoutcast (internet radio streams) which work with jriver media center, therefore, work with the cav66 plugin and send the song name ot the display.. i believe xm/sirius users have the option to stream live radio as well via the internet - you may want to check that out.

-Brett
post #240 of 982
Brett,
Unfortunately, the XM and Sirius websites only stream some of the channels, not all of them. Also, while some local FM radio stations are available on the net, not all of them are. However, it is an idea.
Steve
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