1. Denon 5910
2. Onkyo 1000/Integra 10.5
3. Pioneer 59 (not tied with the Onkyo. Certainly not better. Anyone who uses a properly calibrated display will see this very easily.)
4. Denon 3910
5. Denon 5900/9000
1.) Onkyo 1000/Integra 10.5 (We discussed this earlier in this thread or the 1.21 firmware thread I believe.)
2.) Denon 5910
3.) Pioneer 59
4.) Denon 3910 (tied)
5.) Denon 5900/9000 (tied)
1.) Denon 5910
2.) Onkyo 1000/Integra 10.5
3.) Pioneer 59
4.) Denon 3910
5.) Denon 5900/9000
No ties anywhere except for Denon 5900/9000.
Those are my lists. ;)
Besides my own demoing experiences that lead me to these conclusions, you add this:
If you read any number of professional reviews, the Denons were nowhere close to the Onkyo 1000 or Integra 10.5 in terms of video and especially audio. (Denon 5910 excepted, of course.)http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=Onkyo
If you check out the first five pages of this thread, before the trolls derailed it and got it locked like virtually every other Onkyo 1000 thread around here, the consensus from upwards of 10 domestic and international professional reviews comes back as this: The Pioneer 59 and Denon 3910 are in a class/tier BELOW the Onkyo 1000/Integra 10.5 (and by extension, the Denon 5910.) Audio, video, build, transport, etc. Across the boards.
The Pioneer 59 and Denon 3910 simply are not in the same league as the Onkyo 1000 and Denon 5910 in any way, shape, or form. You don't need to spend a long time with these units to figure this out, especially if you bother to calibrate your display worth a damn.
Don't get me wrong: At their price points, the Pioneer 59 and Denon 3910 easily rule the <$1000 tier, at least. They're great bargains at their price points. Depending on your display, you can't go wrong with either one of them. AWESOME value for your dollar.
One specific example from that thread would be the review that favorably compares the Onkyo 1000 to the Meridian and Esoteric DV-50.
One reviewer even rated the Onkyo 1000 over the Esoteric DV-50 outright and put the Onkyo 1000 on about equal footing with the Meridian. The Denon 3910 and Pioneer 59 never came close.
In that same review, it's clearly written that all of these players are clearly in a class ABOVE the Denon 3910 and Pioneer 59. You can read it for yourself. The first 5 pages of that thread are really eye opening.
I couldn't agree more with all of those reviews in that thread after my 6 months of demoing, exploring, toying, and research. They're dead-on.
Seeing and hearing truly are believing. :)